Well well well

It has arrived and looks quite sleek to me. Many things improved.

- Search is much much better and faster. Actually it does not take any
search time. As you write start to enter the keyword, ON immediately gives
search results. Impressive really.
- I really like the ribbon. The commands now look very organized.
- It is now easy to move the sections by dragging and dropping them wherever
you want.

There are many more pluses that I will not count.

But I am disappointed that you still cannot set a global template. I don't
understand. This was one of the most requested features and it is still not
there. What is so difficult to make it?

I also don't know how sync is. I used to have sync problems when updating my
ON files on my usb stick. Hope there is some improvement there.

But I like the new ON. I actually liked it very much. I will see how it will
go in the next days but for the moment it looks really good and inviting one
to work on it.

My most favorite program ON!

Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we want to try
and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have it in OneNote
2010 currently.


"minimus" <minimus@live.co.uk> wrote in message
news:he9len$n56$1@news.eternal-september.org...
Well well well
It has arrived and looks quite sleek to me. Many things improved.

- Search is much much better and faster. Actually it does not take any
search time. As you write start to enter the keyword, ON immediately gives
search results. Impressive really.
- I really like the ribbon. The commands now look very organized.
- It is now easy to move the sections by dragging and dropping them wherever
you want.

There are many more pluses that I will not count.

But I am disappointed that you still cannot set a global template. I don't
understand. This was one of the most requested features and it is still not
there. What is so difficult to make it?

I also don't know how sync is. I used to have sync problems when updating my
ON files on my usb stick. Hope there is some improvement there.

But I like the new ON. I actually liked it very much. I will see how it will
go in the next days but for the moment it looks really good and inviting one
to work on it.

My most favorite program ON!

Daniel,

> Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we want
to try and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have it
in OneNote 2010 currently.

That's a shame. I've been waiting for a global template since 2005.

Regards

John Waller

Do you have to uninstall OneNote 2007 before installing the 2010 beta
version?

"John Waller" wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> > Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we want
> to try and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have it
> in OneNote 2010 currently.
>
> That's a shame. I've been waiting for a global template since 2005.
>
> Regards
>
> John Waller
> .
>

No - it upgrades existing ON 2007 installs.

--
Thanks,
John Guin
OneNote Test Team
http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin


"Meer" wrote:

> Do you have to uninstall OneNote 2007 before installing the 2010 beta
> version?
>
> "John Waller" wrote:
>
> > Daniel,
> >
> > > Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we want
> > to try and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have it
> > in OneNote 2010 currently.
> >
> > That's a shame. I've been waiting for a global template since 2005.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John Waller
> > .
> >

"Daniel Escapa [MSFT]" <descapa@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:e4XJ0FvaKHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we want to
> try and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have it in
> OneNote 2010 currently.

Ok, I understand that it is more difficult than what I can imagine. But
there has been some time since this is a popular request. And it is rather a
fundamental issue whose improvement would have made the user's life much
easier. I think people will hope to see this in the next office service pack
rather than in the next version of ON.

Since I got this chance of having a direct conversation here with a
specialist (Daniel), I would like to mention a concern that most people, who
feed back via Connect, share, I think. We leave feedback at Connect and have
no response. The only response is a new version of ON where we wait for a
long time and see if our feedback has been read. I think On developers can
provide some feedback to the feedbacks. For example, if users request the
global template at Connect, why not to give a short answer as you did here:
Just tell with a sentence that it is more difficult than we can imagine so
we will need to wait for a while. Then we know if our voice is heard. I
myself am a very heavy user of ON and I am excited using it every day. Then
I go to connect and leave feedback. Such a person who is excited about ON
wishes that his voice is heard and there is communication for improvement of
ON. I think the 'Connect' idea is very good but it is not mutual. We are
connected to you, which is great, but you are not connected to us, which is
frustrating. Surely you are all busy, but we are too. In our businesses, we
should keep our brains alive for the improvement of ON. This is what you
want, and this is what we want.

Please let me express my appreciation and congratulations for the new
version of ON. Apart from the issues, it is a great improvement and looks
and feels very good.

Greetings from a ON fan.

minimus wrote:
> - I really like the ribbon. The commands now look very organized.

Having used the TP since it was available, I must say that these praises
do not apply when using a TabletPC.
There have been many discussions on this issue in the TP newsgroup.
Too bad that MS does not give us the option to use customized toolbars.

Rainald

John Guin [msft] wrote:

>> Do you have to uninstall OneNote 2007 before installing the 2010 beta
>> version?
>
> No - it upgrades existing ON 2007 installs.

Dies this also apply to the 2010 TP version?
I think to remember that previously we had been told that the TP has to
be un-installed.

Rainald

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:#Mv$F#3aKHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> minimus wrote:
>> - I really like the ribbon. The commands now look very organized.
>
> Having used the TP since it was available, I must say that these praises
> do not apply when using a TabletPC.
> There have been many discussions on this issue in the TP newsgroup.
> Too bad that MS does not give us the option to use customized toolbars.

The ribbon is customizable. You can hide it, relocate the buttons. Ok maybe
you cannot make it smaller... But then you can also put commands on the
quick acess toolbar. So what is the problem?

minimus wrote:
> "Rainald Taesler" wrote: in message
>> minimus wrote:

>>> - I really like the ribbon. The commands now look very organized.
>>
>> Having used the TP since it was available, I must say that these
>> praises do not apply when using a TabletPC.
>> There have been many discussions on this issue in the TP newsgroup.
>> Too bad that MS does not give us the option to use customized
>> toolbars.
>
> The ribbon is customizable.

Only to a very small extent (adding a custom Tab) That's it.

> You can hide it,

Right.

> relocate the buttons.

Which buttons?

> Ok maybe you cannot make it smaller... But then you can
> also put commands on the quick acess toolbar.

Right. Been there done that. Long ago ;-) ;-)

> So what is the problem?

Quite some problems remain.
Too many to talk about in a short reply :-( :-(

Rainald

I imagine that a global template would be difficult with multiple users of
a given Notebook.

John Waller <johnw@pinnacleweb.com.au> wrote in
news:4B0876AB.8000502@pinnacleweb.com.au:

> Daniel,
>
> > Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we want
> to try and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have it
> in OneNote 2010 currently.
>
> That's a shame. I've been waiting for a global template since 2005.
>
> Regards
>
> John Waller
>

You shouldn't have to. You can either have the ON2010 installer upgrade
your ON2007 installation or install it to a different directory and run
both versions.



=?Utf-8?B?TWVlcg==?= <Meer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:7C6DA265-C331-445F-A75E-B1A160876FC1@microsoft.com:

> Do you have to uninstall OneNote 2007 before installing the 2010 beta
> version?
>
> "John Waller" wrote:
>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> > Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we
>> > want
>> to try and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have
>> it in OneNote 2010 currently.
>>
>> That's a shame. I've been waiting for a global template since 2005.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John Waller
>> .
>>
>

That's different. The 2010TP needs to be uninstalled. 2007 is supported
as a direct upgrade path.

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in
news:Ol$vG#3aKHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> John Guin [msft] wrote:
>
>>> Do you have to uninstall OneNote 2007 before installing the 2010 beta
>>> version?
>>
>> No - it upgrades existing ON 2007 installs.
>
> Dies this also apply to the 2010 TP version?
> I think to remember that previously we had been told that the TP has to
> be un-installed.
>
> Rainald
>
>

What do you see missing from Connect? Bug reports are responded to (even
if you don't like the answer) and there are several MS folks on the COnnect
newsgroups.

"minimus" <minimus@live.co.uk> wrote in
news:heb0op$5ed$1@news.eternal-september.org:

>
> Ok, I understand that it is more difficult than what I can imagine.
> But there has been some time since this is a popular request. And it
> is rather a fundamental issue whose improvement would have made the
> user's life much easier. I think people will hope to see this in the
> next office service pack rather than in the next version of ON.
>
> Since I got this chance of having a direct conversation here with a
> specialist (Daniel), I would like to mention a concern that most
> people, who feed back via Connect, share, I think. We leave feedback
> at Connect and have no response. The only response is a new version of
> ON where we wait for a long time and see if our feedback has been
> read. I think On developers can provide some feedback to the
> feedbacks. For example, if users request the global template at
> Connect, why not to give a short answer as you did here: Just tell
> with a sentence that it is more difficult than we can imagine so we
> will need to wait for a while. Then we know if our voice is heard. I
> myself am a very heavy user of ON and I am excited using it every day.
> Then I go to connect and leave feedback. Such a person who is excited
> about ON wishes that his voice is heard and there is communication for
> improvement of ON. I think the 'Connect' idea is very good but it is
> not mutual. We are connected to you, which is great, but you are not
> connected to us, which is frustrating. Surely you are all busy, but we
> are too. In our businesses, we should keep our brains alive for the
> improvement of ON. This is what you want, and this is what we want.
>
> Please let me express my appreciation and congratulations for the new
> version of ON. Apart from the issues, it is a great improvement and
> looks and feels very good.
>
> Greetings from a ON fan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Erik Sojka wrote:
> John Waller wrote:
>> Daniel,

>>> Setting a global template is much harder than you realize and we
>>> want
>> to try and do this in a future version of OneNote but we don't have
>> it in OneNote 2010 currently.
>>
>> That's a shame. I've been waiting for a global template since 2005.
>
> I imagine that a global template would be difficult with multiple
> users of a given Notebook.

Although I trust Daniel's explanation that it would not have been easy
to implement that, I do not think that *this* would be a problem.

a) Pages with templates do show fine for users of shared notebooks.

b) The settings *now* can be transferred to other machines (one of the
big steps forward <!>).
So AFAICS it would be easy to distribute (aa) the templates and (bb) the
setting for which template would be the default for those participating
in a group using shared notebooks.

Rainald