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Old 11-15-2009, 04:30 PM
dmmjr
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Can I go offline, close a notebook, then reopen it somehow?

Hi,

My laptop's OneNote 2007 notebook is stored on a shared folder
\\blah\onenote. The auto-sync stuff works great when the shared folder is
unavailable, so I can just pick up my laptop and go and it resyncs correctly
when I return.

But I have trouble when (1) the shared folder is unavailable and (2) in the
OneNote application, I close the notebook using File / Close this notebook.
Namely, I can't figure out how to open the now-closed notebook back up again
without flying home (or equivalent ;-) and getting reconnected to the missing
shared folder. Because when I try File / Open / Notebook... using the
shared folder address \\blah\onenote, OneNote simply reports that the "path
does not exist". And I can't open the cache file directly either (zany idea
anyway). Is there some other name I can use? I don't know

It all works great if I just avoid the File / Close this notebook option.
But I'm worried that I'll find myself on the road one day, have that happen
to me for some bad reason, and then be sunk.

Any ideas?

Thanks much,
David
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:40 PM
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Re: Can I go offline, close a notebook, then reopen it somehow?



-------- Original-Nachricht --------

> Hi,
>
> My laptop's OneNote 2007 notebook is stored on a shared folder
> \\blah\onenote. The auto-sync stuff works great when the shared folder is
> unavailable, so I can just pick up my laptop and go and it resyncs correctly
> when I return.
>
> But I have trouble when (1) the shared folder is unavailable and (2) in the
> OneNote application, I close the notebook using File / Close this notebook.
> Namely, I can't figure out how to open the now-closed notebook back up again
> without flying home (or equivalent ;-) and getting reconnected to the missing
> shared folder. Because when I try File / Open / Notebook... using the
> shared folder address \\blah\onenote, OneNote simply reports that the "path
> does not exist". And I can't open the cache file directly either (zany idea
> anyway). Is there some other name I can use? I don't know
>
> It all works great if I just avoid the File / Close this notebook option.
> But I'm worried that I'll find myself on the road one day, have that happen
> to me for some bad reason, and then be sunk.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks much,
> David


Just forget about closing any notebooks. The way Onenote works is
another than in all usual applications. During working with a notebook
closing the notebook makes just no sense. And is dangerous too, as you
have learned the hard way.

There are only 2 reasons why you should close a notebook:

1. you never want to work with it
2. you want to change its location

Bernd
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:10 PM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Can I go offline, close a notebook, then reopen it somehow?

dmmjr wrote:

> My laptop's OneNote 2007 notebook is stored on a shared folder
> \\blah\onenote. The auto-sync stuff works great when the shared
> folder is unavailable, so I can just pick up my laptop and go and it
> resyncs correctly when I return.


Yes, that's one of the ON basics.

> But I have trouble when (1) the shared folder is unavailable and (2)
> in the OneNote application, I close the notebook using File / Close
> this notebook.


Why would you want to do that??
It's one of the very basics if working with ON to *not* close the
notebooks.
And there is no use at all in doing so (except one really wants to get
rid of a notebook).

> Namely, I can't figure out how to open the now-closed
> notebook back up again without flying home (or equivalent ;-) and
> getting reconnected to the missing shared folder. Because when I
> try File / Open / Notebook... using the shared folder address
> \\blah\onenote, OneNote simply reports that the "path does not
> exist".


Exactly! One can not open something from a remote/network device when
the device is out if reach ;-)

> And I can't open the cache file directly either (zany idea
> anyway). Is there some other name I can use? I don't know


No. The Cache is the playground where ON works. And it contains no
notebooks to be opened.

> It all works great if I just avoid the File / Close this notebook
> option. But I'm worried that I'll find myself on the road one day,
> have that happen to me for some bad reason, and then be sunk.


But no need to be worried.
Just avoid to close notebooks. ;-)

And: You may make *Backups* frequently on your laptop (just in case you
might close a notebook per accident).

Rainald


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Old 11-16-2009, 08:00 AM
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Re: Can I go offline, close a notebook, then reopen it somehow?

"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> Just avoid to close notebooks. ;-)


OK. I don't close notebooks in normal use, I'm just trying to sort out what
is at risk when I'm traveling and what isn't.

> > And I can't open the cache file directly either (zany idea
> > anyway). Is there some other name I can use? I don't know

>
> No. The Cache is the playground where ON works. And it contains no
> notebooks to be opened.


This is where I'm left a little confused. Are you sure that the cache
"contains no notebooks to be opened"? Because if I'm offline from my
notebook stored in a shared folder, and I *haven't* closed the notebook, and
I start up the OneNote application from scratch, it appears to be able to
manipulate the entire notebook from the cache file alone. The various .one
files are obviously inaccessible because I'm offline. So the cache file
either contains or points to local copies of the entire notebook.

Assuming the cache does somehow contain the entire notebook, I don't see why
it would have been difficult to allow me to open a notebook by supplying the
cache file path. I guess this just didn't make it into the feature list.

> And: You may make *Backups* frequently on your laptop (just in case you
> might close a notebook per accident).


Good suggestion, I overlooked OneNote's backup feature. Thanks for your help!

David
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:30 AM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Can I go offline, close a notebook, then reopen it somehow?

dmmjr wrote:
> "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
>
>> Just avoid to close notebooks. ;-)

>
> OK. I don't close notebooks in normal use, I'm just trying to sort
> out what is at risk when I'm traveling and what isn't.
>
>>> And I can't open the cache file directly either (zany idea
>>> anyway). Is there some other name I can use? I don't know

>>
>> No. The Cache is the playground where ON works. And it contains no
>> notebooks to be opened.

>
> This is where I'm left a little confused. Are you sure that the cache
> "contains no notebooks to be opened"?


YES. It contains *data* but not in the format of a notebook file.

> Because if I'm offline from my
> notebook stored in a shared folder, and I *haven't* closed the
> notebook, and I start up the OneNote application from scratch, it
> appears to be able to manipulate the entire notebook from the cache
> file alone.


Right.

> The various .one files are obviously inaccessible
> because I'm offline. So the cache file either contains or points to
> local copies of the entire notebook.


No. It just holds the *data* but in a totally different format.

> Assuming the cache does somehow contain the entire notebook, I don't
> see why it would have been difficult to allow me to open a notebook
> by supplying the cache file path. I guess this just didn't make it
> into the feature list.


No, not a missing feature. It's a basic concept behind the way OneNote
works and especially synching works.

>> And: You may make *Backups* frequently on your laptop (just in case
>> you might close a notebook per accident).

>
> Good suggestion, I overlooked OneNote's backup feature.


One can fine-tune when/how often Backups are made.

> Thanks for your help!


De nada ;-) That's what we are here for.

Rainald

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