Q: How does Windows Vista Search do with OneNote 2007 files ?

Aloha EMRhelp.org,

Should be fine - it's essentially WDS.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

> Q: How does Windows Vista Search do with OneNote 2007 files ?
>

Ben M. Schorr - MVP shared these words of wisdom:

>> Q: How does Windows Vista Search do with OneNote 2007 files ?

> Should be fine - it's essentially WDS.

"Essentially" only or really built-in without any additional care
needed?

Rainald

Aloha Rainald,

Well, it's built-in. Not sure what kind of "additional care" it might need.
I believe it's just an integrated WDS though I'm not on the Vista team and
haven't gotten under the hood to look for myself.

In my limited testing so far it seems to work fine.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

> Ben M. Schorr - MVP shared these words of wisdom:
>
>>> Q: How does Windows Vista Search do with OneNote 2007 files ?
>>>
>> Should be fine - it's essentially WDS.
>>
> "Essentially" only or really built-in without any additional care
> needed?
>
> Rainald
>

Q: Does Windows Desktop Search allow you to : have different indexes
of your files (say may 10 different indexes) ?

Or does it treat your whole darn hard drive(s) as one big mess ?

Aloha EMRhelp.org,

I'd have to ask. Why would you want different indexes? That sort of defeats
the purpose of having one universal search doesn't it?

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

> Q: Does Windows Desktop Search allow you to : have different indexes
> of your files (say may 10 different indexes) ?
>
> Or does it treat your whole darn hard drive(s) as one big mess ?
>

On Feb 4, 3:12 pm, Ben M. Schorr - MVP <b...@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote:
> Aloha EMRhelp.org,
>
> I'd have to ask. Why would you want different indexes? That sort of defeats
> the purpose of having one universal search doesn't it?
> -Ben-

OMG NO!
The number 1 problem with these ULTRA MEGA "entire computer" search
things is you get too many hits. If you get too many hits it is
useless.

My life spans many entirely different domains.

In Microsoft's mindset of computing you'd think they'd at least
separate : Work Files, Personal Files, are you sure you want these
to be "mushed up together in the same search ?". I sure don't.

Of course if you had certain subsets of indexes you could always have
a button to search "all indexes". So your need to search everything
is still there.

EMRhelp.org wrote:
> On Feb 4, 3:12 pm, Ben M. Schorr - MVP <b...@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote:
>> Aloha EMRhelp.org,
>>
>> I'd have to ask. Why would you want different indexes? That sort of defeats
>> the purpose of having one universal search doesn't it?
>> -Ben-
>
> OMG NO!
> The number 1 problem with these ULTRA MEGA "entire computer" search
> things is you get too many hits. If you get too many hits it is
> useless.
>
> My life spans many entirely different domains.
>
> In Microsoft's mindset of computing you'd think they'd at least
> separate : Work Files, Personal Files, are you sure you want these
> to be "mushed up together in the same search ?". I sure don't.
>
> Of course if you had certain subsets of indexes you could always have
> a button to search "all indexes". So your need to search everything
> is still there.
>
>
>

One enourmous HERE HERE! WHat a great idea, emrhelp. I have WDS index
only my outlook and onenote files. I use google desktop for everything
else. This, then, seperates personal folders from school (work) folders.

nice suggestion!

erik
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Unfortunately Google Desktop search is just another "Mega" indexer for
files.
It's sad you need to use two programs to accomplish what one should be
able to do.

For the record, I am attempting to use dtsearch for this. Not sure
how it will turn out.

"EMRhelp.org" <EMRhelp.org******.com> wrote:

> In Microsoft's mindset of computing you'd think they'd at least
> separate : Work Files, Personal Files, are you sure you want these
> to be "mushed up together in the same search ?". I sure don't.
>
> Of course if you had certain subsets of indexes you could always have
> a button to search "all indexes". So your need to search everything
> is still there.

Granted, I am but a lowly XP user, but at least in the version of Win
Desktop Search installed on my machine, I see the option to filter the
search by predefined location and/or by file type.

While this may not be precisely what you describe...I bet it could be
configured to do something pretty darned close.

--
Michael D. Adams -- Windsor, Connecticut -- http://www.triskele.com

Anyone know anything about

With Windows Vista, you can now save and organize your folders and
links in virtual folders ?

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ualfolders.asp

Is it possible to kinda like "make your own virtual folder" with drag
and drop ?

Aloha EMRhelp.org,

Well, o.k. I guess I rarely have that problem but maybe I'm just using more
precise search terms? If I get too many hits it's not because of searches
that blur my personal and professional lives but rather because I get hits
out of IM archives, e-mail, documents, and other things and limiting the
TYPE of file, rather than the domain of that file, presents a result set
that is useful and managable.

I suppose I can see the value in being able to define subsets -- it order
to segregate them, however, you'd almost always have to do it by folder structure
(unless we created some sort of metadata to discern it). But with those
subsets defined it would follow that you'd be able to limit your search with
them.

Sounds like a good feature suggestion.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

> On Feb 4, 3:12 pm, Ben M. Schorr - MVP <b...@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote:
>
>> Aloha EMRhelp.org,
>>
>> I'd have to ask. Why would you want different indexes? That sort of
>> defeats
>> the purpose of having one universal search doesn't it?
>> -Ben-
> OMG NO!
> The number 1 problem with these ULTRA MEGA "entire computer" search
> things is you get too many hits. If you get too many hits it is
> useless.
> My life spans many entirely different domains.
>
> In Microsoft's mindset of computing you'd think they'd at least
> separate : Work Files, Personal Files, are you sure you want these
> to be "mushed up together in the same search ?". I sure don't.
>
> Of course if you had certain subsets of indexes you could always have
> a button to search "all indexes". So your need to search everything
> is still there.
>

On Feb 7, 1:30 am, Ben M. Schorr - MVP <b...@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote:
> Aloha EMRhelp.org,
>
> Well, o.k. I guess I rarely have that problem but maybe I'm just using more
> precise search terms? If I get too many hits it's not because of searches
> that blur my personal and professional lives but rather because I get hits
> out of IM archives, e-mail, documents, and other things and limiting the
> TYPE of file, rather than the domain of that file, presents a result set
> that is useful and managable.
>
> I suppose I can see the value in being able to define subsets -- it order
> to segregate them, however, you'd almost always have to do it by folder structure
> (unless we created some sort of metadata to discern it). But with those
> subsets defined it would follow that you'd be able to limit your search with
> them.
>
> Sounds like a good feature suggestion.
>
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
> Roland Schorr & Towerhttp://www.rolandschorr.com
> Microsoft OneNote FAQ:http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 3:12 pm, Ben M. Schorr - MVP <b...@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote:
>
> >> Aloha EMRhelp.org,
>
> >> I'd have to ask. Why would you want different indexes? That sort of
> >> defeats
> >> the purpose of having one universal search doesn't it?
> >> -Ben-
> > OMG NO!
> > The number 1 problem with these ULTRA MEGA "entire computer" search
> > things is you get too many hits. If you get too many hits it is
> > useless.
> > My life spans many entirely different domains.
>
> > In Microsoft's mindset of computing you'd think they'd at least
> > separate : Work Files, Personal Files, are you sure you want these
> > to be "mushed up together in the same search ?". I sure don't.
>
> > Of course if you had certain subsets of indexes you could always have
> > a button to search "all indexes". So your need to search everything
> > is still there.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ben,
Please volunteer the last time you searched your ENTIRE computer (and
all the contents that WDS indexes) for something. Why did you do it ?

Aloha EMRhelp.org,

I do it more or less daily, actually. Usually I'm looking for a particular
document or spreadsheet and I'll usually search by a short phrase that I
know is in the document.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

> On Feb 7, 1:30 am, Ben M. Schorr - MVP <b...@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote:
>
>> Aloha EMRhelp.org,
>>
>> Well, o.k. I guess I rarely have that problem but maybe I'm just
>> using more precise search terms? If I get too many hits it's not
>> because of searches that blur my personal and professional lives but
>> rather because I get hits out of IM archives, e-mail, documents, and
>> other things and limiting the TYPE of file, rather than the domain of
>> that file, presents a result set that is useful and managable.
>>
>> I suppose I can see the value in being able to define subsets -- it
>> order
>> to segregate them, however, you'd almost always have to do it by
>> folder structure
>> (unless we created some sort of metadata to discern it). But with
>> those
>> subsets defined it would follow that you'd be able to limit your
>> search with
>> them.
>> Sounds like a good feature suggestion.
>>
>> -Ben-
>> Ben M. Schorr - MVP
>> Roland Schorr & Towerhttp://www.rolandschorr.com
>> Microsoft OneNote FAQ:http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
>>> On Feb 4, 3:12 pm, Ben M. Schorr - MVP <b...@bogusaddress.mvp>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aloha EMRhelp.org,
>>>>
>>>> I'd have to ask. Why would you want different indexes? That sort
>>>> of
>>>> defeats
>>>> the purpose of having one universal search doesn't it?
>>>> -Ben-
>>> OMG NO!
>>> The number 1 problem with these ULTRA MEGA "entire computer" search
>>> things is you get too many hits. If you get too many hits it is
>>> useless.
>>> My life spans many entirely different domains.
>>> In Microsoft's mindset of computing you'd think they'd at least
>>> separate : Work Files, Personal Files, are you sure you want these
>>> to be "mushed up together in the same search ?". I sure don't.
>>>
>>> Of course if you had certain subsets of indexes you could always
>>> have a button to search "all indexes". So your need to search
>>> everything is still there.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>>
> Ben,
> Please volunteer the last time you searched your ENTIRE computer (and
> all the contents that WDS indexes) for something. Why did you do it ?