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| Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote If any of you are like me, you often need to enter equations or diagrams into OneNote. While you could just draw them directly in OneNote you have probably found that organizing notes into a neat outline is next to impossible if you have used any handwriting and it is totally impossible if you have drawn any equations or diagrams. I have figured out a few tricks using tables, external programs, and embedding files into the OneNote page that allow me to create the neat and modifiable outlines that I prefer. Tables: A table can be moved around in an outline regardless of what is in that table. If you have a diagram you have made in OneNote, you can keep all the parts of that diagram together by putting them into a one-cell table. Simple create a 1x1 cell table, select all of your diagram with the lasso tool, cut that, then paste it into your 1x1 table. You can then drag that table anywhere in your outline you want and the whole diagram will stay together neatly. To make it easier to create tables I copied the create table toolbar button right in the menu bar next to the table menu. A single click and drag creates any size table I want. Sometimes you want to put a picture or diagram beside some text. You can use tables for this too. Put your text in one cell and the picture in the cell next to it. What a lot of people don't realize is that you can nest tables within other tables. Lets say you have a complicated chart you want to create. You want there to be one heading across the entire top of the chart, then you want a row or two of columns with things next to each other. Then you want another header going all the way across with more columns under that. Just create a 4x1 table (OneNote lists rows first), then place the cursor in the second row and create yet another table, say 2x4, for 2 rows of 4 columns. Do that again in the last row of the main table. Now you can put text, pictures, or diagrams into any of these cells. Anyone experienced with basic web page design should be familiar with these nested table techniques. Using them, you can create any complicated structure you desire. Just be creative. I have noticed that it is not possible to insert a line of text UNDER a table which is nested within another table cell. So I have gotten in the habit of entering a carriage return into the cell before creating the nested table within it and then creating that nested table on the first of those two blank lines. You can go back and clean up all those extra lines later. It is easy to create a blank line ABOVE a nested table. Just put the cursor at the beginning of the first cell in the nested table and press return. If you neglect to enter the extra, safety-line there is a workaround to add a line under your nested table. Select the entire nested table and cut it. Press return to add a second blank line to the cell. Sometimes you may need to press ctrl-enter to avoid creating a new row in the table or creating a new line below the entire table. Finally paste the nested table back in on the first blank line. External Programs: When I need to enter an equation into my study notes I want to be able to actually read the thing later. Also, if I print that out for anyone I want it to look professional. I also want to be able to manipulate this entire equation as a unit without worrying about parts of it shifting around or disappearing as can happen with ink sometimes. This is why I hate to just draw my equations into OneNote freehand. I use the Microsoft Equation Editor instead. I have created a shortcut directly to the Equation Editor on my Start Menu. The path to the executable is "C: \Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE" on my computer. It may be different on yours. Once you have created your equation you can just select it in Equation Editor and paste it into OneNote. It will paste in as a picture. The picture will be a little small so you may need to enlarge it. The easiest way to select the picture so you can enlarge it is to simply press the up arrow right after pasting-in the equation. OneNote always inserts an extra line under a pasted picture and leaves the cursor on that extra line, so pressing the up arrow moves the selection back to the picture. You can also drag the text pointer over a significant portion of the inside of the picture to select it. When you do this, keep the pointer within the borders of the picture rather than dragging a box around the outside of the picture as you would for other programs. You will have to ask the Microsoft people why they designed it that way. Sometimes I want to draw a rather complicated diagram to include in my OneNote notes. I have found that the Windows Journal program that comes with Tablet PCs is still better for this than OneNote because it provides more choices for the line style and color. Journal also allows you to group a set of objects and move them around as a unit. finally, you can drag copy things in Journal which you still cannot do in OneNote. So, I use Journal any time I think my diagram will be very complicated. Getting the diagrams from Journal to OneNote is a little tricky due to what I consider to be a bug in OneNote. Microsoft naturally calls it a "feature." If you paste from Journal to OneNote and the default paste mode is set to either "Keep Source Formatting" or "Match Destination Formatting" then OneNote will paste the diagram as individual pieces of ink and each of those pieces will be in its own separate multiply- overlapping text box. It is a real mess. So, before you paste from Journal to OneNote you need to set the default paste mode to either "Keep Text Only" or "Paste as Picture." Preferably the latter. The only way to do this is to copy and paste some text then choose "Paste as Picture" from the Paste Options menu that appears, then you have to open that menu again and choose "Set as default paste." If "Keep Text Only" just happened to be the default paste mode when you paste from Journal then you will see gibberish. Fortunately, it is easy enough to use the Paste Options menu to change it to a picture. Remember, you must set the default paste mode BEFORE you copy your diagram out of Journal. {Note to Microsoft: It would be really nice to be able to set a different default paste option for each different program we may be pasting stuff FROM. This would save us a lot of darn clicking every single time we pasted something into OneNote.} Embedding Files: After a few times of creating a diagram in Journal, getting it into OneNote, then closing Journal only to realize that I needed to modify the diagram, I was struck with the idea for my last tip. I keep the Journal file that I used to create the diagrams in as an attachment to my OneNote page. Just save the Journal file to your desktop and exit Journal. Drag that icon onto your OneNote page. Use the second option of the Insert File Options dialog "Insert a copy of the file onto the page." I usually put the icon at the top next to the page title. After embedding the file into your OneNote page you don't need it on your desktop any more so you can just delete it. Now, if you need to change one of the diagrams you can just open the Journal file right from OneNote, modify the diagram, and re-paste it into OneNote in place of the previous version of the diagram. I do the same thing for my equations. Rather than going straight to the Equation Editor like I used to, I now open a blank Word document and create the equations there. Choose { Insert / Object ; Microsoft Equation 3.0 } from the Word menus. Sometimes I go straight to the Equation Editor using the shortcut I mentioned above then copy all of my equations into an empty Word document if I decide I want to keep them. Then I embed that Word document into my OneNote page using the same method as for the Journal file. I know that this increases the size of my OneNote files but the time saved by not needing to recreate diagrams and equations is worth it. Sometimes, when I need to make a new equation for a page I will open up the Word file from a previous page and copy parts out of that to save even more time. Using these three techniques now allows me to create neat outlines of my notes which can easily be rearranged as I rethink how they should be organized. I hope they will prove helpful to you as well. P.S. A final tip for Microsoft: If OneNote had OLE or whatever is the new way to do that then none of this would be necessary. OLE (or whatever) would provide a lot of the functionality that people keep asking for. For example: If we could paste in an HTML OLE object from a browser, Word, or another HTML editor then we could keep the HTML formatting intact and not have to print space-hogging, non-editable, "non-copy-fromable" PICTURES to OneNote. |
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| Re: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote Hey Grant! Thanks for this... there are some great ideas here, especially the really simple one about putting a graphic/note inside a cell to move it around... can't wait to try it out... well, once I've gone to Best Buy and told them my Gateway pen seems to have died, that is... thank God for extended warranties! :-) C. "Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message news:u6QuqupQHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > If any of you are like me, you often need to enter equations or diagrams > into OneNote. While you could just draw them directly in OneNote you have > probably found that organizing notes into a neat outline is next to > impossible if you have used any handwriting and it is totally impossible > if you have drawn any equations or diagrams. I have figured out a few > tricks using tables, external programs, and embedding files into the > OneNote page that allow me to create the neat and modifiable outlines > that I prefer. > > Tables: > A table can be moved around in an outline regardless of what is in that > table. If you have a diagram you have made in OneNote, you can keep all > the parts of that diagram together by putting them into a one-cell table. > Simple create a 1x1 cell table, select all of your diagram with the lasso > tool, cut that, then paste it into your 1x1 table. You can then drag that > table anywhere in your outline you want and the whole diagram will stay > together neatly. To make it easier to create tables I copied the create > table toolbar button right in the menu bar next to the table menu. A > single click and drag creates any size table I want. > > Sometimes you want to put a picture or diagram beside some text. You can > use tables for this too. Put your text in one cell and the picture in the > cell next to it. > > What a lot of people don't realize is that you can nest tables within > other tables. Lets say you have a complicated chart you want to create. > You want there to be one heading across the entire top of the chart, then > you want a row or two of columns with things next to each other. Then you > want another header going all the way across with more columns under > that. Just create a 4x1 table (OneNote lists rows first), then place the > cursor in the second row and create yet another table, say 2x4, for 2 > rows of 4 columns. Do that again in the last row of the main table. Now > you can put text, pictures, or diagrams into any of these cells. > > Anyone experienced with basic web page design should be familiar with > these nested table techniques. Using them, you can create any complicated > structure you desire. Just be creative. > > I have noticed that it is not possible to insert a line of text UNDER a > table which is nested within another table cell. So I have gotten in the > habit of entering a carriage return into the cell before creating the > nested table within it and then creating that nested table on the first > of those two blank lines. You can go back and clean up all those extra > lines later. It is easy to create a blank line ABOVE a nested table. Just > put the cursor at the beginning of the first cell in the nested table and > press return. If you neglect to enter the extra, safety-line there is a > workaround to add a line under your nested table. Select the entire > nested table and cut it. Press return to add a second blank line to the > cell. Sometimes you may need to press ctrl-enter to avoid creating a new > row in the table or creating a new line below the entire table. Finally > paste the nested table back in on the first blank line. > > External Programs: > When I need to enter an equation into my study notes I want to be able to > actually read the thing later. Also, if I print that out for anyone I > want it to look professional. I also want to be able to manipulate this > entire equation as a unit without worrying about parts of it shifting > around or disappearing as can happen with ink sometimes. This is why I > hate to just draw my equations into OneNote freehand. I use the Microsoft > Equation Editor instead. I have created a shortcut directly to the > Equation Editor on my Start Menu. The path to the executable is "C: > \Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE" on my > computer. It may be different on yours. > > Once you have created your equation you can just select it in Equation > Editor and paste it into OneNote. It will paste in as a picture. The > picture will be a little small so you may need to enlarge it. The easiest > way to select the picture so you can enlarge it is to simply press the up > arrow right after pasting-in the equation. OneNote always inserts an > extra line under a pasted picture and leaves the cursor on that extra > line, so pressing the up arrow moves the selection back to the picture. > You can also drag the text pointer over a significant portion of the > inside of the picture to select it. When you do this, keep the pointer > within the borders of the picture rather than dragging a box around the > outside of the picture as you would for other programs. You will have to > ask the Microsoft people why they designed it that way. > > Sometimes I want to draw a rather complicated diagram to include in my > OneNote notes. I have found that the Windows Journal program that comes > with Tablet PCs is still better for this than OneNote because it provides > more choices for the line style and color. Journal also allows you to > group a set of objects and move them around as a unit. finally, you can > drag copy things in Journal which you still cannot do in OneNote. So, I > use Journal any time I think my diagram will be very complicated. > > Getting the diagrams from Journal to OneNote is a little tricky due to > what I consider to be a bug in OneNote. Microsoft naturally calls it a > "feature." If you paste from Journal to OneNote and the default paste > mode is set to either "Keep Source Formatting" or "Match Destination > Formatting" then OneNote will paste the diagram as individual pieces of > ink and each of those pieces will be in its own separate multiply- > overlapping text box. It is a real mess. So, before you paste from > Journal to OneNote you need to set the default paste mode to either "Keep > Text Only" or "Paste as Picture." Preferably the latter. The only way to > do this is to copy and paste some text then choose "Paste as Picture" > from the Paste Options menu that appears, then you have to open that menu > again and choose "Set as default paste." If "Keep Text Only" just > happened to be the default paste mode when you paste from Journal then > you will see gibberish. Fortunately, it is easy enough to use the Paste > Options menu to change it to a picture. Remember, you must set the > default paste mode BEFORE you copy your diagram out of Journal. > > {Note to Microsoft: It would be really nice to be able to set a different > default paste option for each different program we may be pasting stuff > FROM. This would save us a lot of darn clicking every single time we > pasted something into OneNote.} > > Embedding Files: > After a few times of creating a diagram in Journal, getting it into > OneNote, then closing Journal only to realize that I needed to modify the > diagram, I was struck with the idea for my last tip. I keep the Journal > file that I used to create the diagrams in as an attachment to my OneNote > page. Just save the Journal file to your desktop and exit Journal. Drag > that icon onto your OneNote page. Use the second option of the Insert > File Options dialog "Insert a copy of the file onto the page." I usually > put the icon at the top next to the page title. After embedding the file > into your OneNote page you don't need it on your desktop any more so you > can just delete it. Now, if you need to change one of the diagrams you > can just open the Journal file right from OneNote, modify the diagram, > and re-paste it into OneNote in place of the previous version of the > diagram. > > I do the same thing for my equations. Rather than going straight to the > Equation Editor like I used to, I now open a blank Word document and > create the equations there. Choose { Insert / Object ; Microsoft Equation > 3.0 } from the Word menus. Sometimes I go straight to the Equation Editor > using the shortcut I mentioned above then copy all of my equations into > an empty Word document if I decide I want to keep them. Then I embed that > Word document into my OneNote page using the same method as for the > Journal file. I know that this increases the size of my OneNote files but > the time saved by not needing to recreate diagrams and equations is worth > it. Sometimes, when I need to make a new equation for a page I will open > up the Word file from a previous page and copy parts out of that to save > even more time. > > > Using these three techniques now allows me to create neat outlines of my > notes which can easily be rearranged as I rethink how they should be > organized. I hope they will prove helpful to you as well. > > > P.S. A final tip for Microsoft: If OneNote had OLE or whatever is the new > way to do that then none of this would be necessary. OLE (or whatever) > would provide a lot of the functionality that people keep asking for. For > example: If we could paste in an HTML OLE object from a browser, Word, or > another HTML editor then we could keep the HTML formatting intact and not > have to print space-hogging, non-editable, "non-copy-fromable" PICTURES > to OneNote. |
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| Re: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote Okay, she said, now looking like the newbie she actually is, so how do I get this table in ON? I can't seem to figure out how to do it... Yours sheepishly, :-) C. "Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message news:u6QuqupQHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > If any of you are like me, you often need to enter equations or diagrams > into OneNote. While you could just draw them directly in OneNote you have > probably found that organizing notes into a neat outline is next to > impossible if you have used any handwriting and it is totally impossible > if you have drawn any equations or diagrams. I have figured out a few > tricks using tables, external programs, and embedding files into the > OneNote page that allow me to create the neat and modifiable outlines > that I prefer. > > Tables: > A table can be moved around in an outline regardless of what is in that > table. If you have a diagram you have made in OneNote, you can keep all > the parts of that diagram together by putting them into a one-cell table. > Simple create a 1x1 cell table, select all of your diagram with the lasso > tool, cut that, then paste it into your 1x1 table. You can then drag that > table anywhere in your outline you want and the whole diagram will stay > together neatly. To make it easier to create tables I copied the create > table toolbar button right in the menu bar next to the table menu. A > single click and drag creates any size table I want. > > Sometimes you want to put a picture or diagram beside some text. You can > use tables for this too. Put your text in one cell and the picture in the > cell next to it. > > What a lot of people don't realize is that you can nest tables within > other tables. Lets say you have a complicated chart you want to create. > You want there to be one heading across the entire top of the chart, then > you want a row or two of columns with things next to each other. Then you > want another header going all the way across with more columns under > that. Just create a 4x1 table (OneNote lists rows first), then place the > cursor in the second row and create yet another table, say 2x4, for 2 > rows of 4 columns. Do that again in the last row of the main table. Now > you can put text, pictures, or diagrams into any of these cells. > > Anyone experienced with basic web page design should be familiar with > these nested table techniques. Using them, you can create any complicated > structure you desire. Just be creative. > > I have noticed that it is not possible to insert a line of text UNDER a > table which is nested within another table cell. So I have gotten in the > habit of entering a carriage return into the cell before creating the > nested table within it and then creating that nested table on the first > of those two blank lines. You can go back and clean up all those extra > lines later. It is easy to create a blank line ABOVE a nested table. Just > put the cursor at the beginning of the first cell in the nested table and > press return. If you neglect to enter the extra, safety-line there is a > workaround to add a line under your nested table. Select the entire > nested table and cut it. Press return to add a second blank line to the > cell. Sometimes you may need to press ctrl-enter to avoid creating a new > row in the table or creating a new line below the entire table. Finally > paste the nested table back in on the first blank line. > > External Programs: > When I need to enter an equation into my study notes I want to be able to > actually read the thing later. Also, if I print that out for anyone I > want it to look professional. I also want to be able to manipulate this > entire equation as a unit without worrying about parts of it shifting > around or disappearing as can happen with ink sometimes. This is why I > hate to just draw my equations into OneNote freehand. I use the Microsoft > Equation Editor instead. I have created a shortcut directly to the > Equation Editor on my Start Menu. The path to the executable is "C: > \Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE" on my > computer. It may be different on yours. > > Once you have created your equation you can just select it in Equation > Editor and paste it into OneNote. It will paste in as a picture. The > picture will be a little small so you may need to enlarge it. The easiest > way to select the picture so you can enlarge it is to simply press the up > arrow right after pasting-in the equation. OneNote always inserts an > extra line under a pasted picture and leaves the cursor on that extra > line, so pressing the up arrow moves the selection back to the picture. > You can also drag the text pointer over a significant portion of the > inside of the picture to select it. When you do this, keep the pointer > within the borders of the picture rather than dragging a box around the > outside of the picture as you would for other programs. You will have to > ask the Microsoft people why they designed it that way. > > Sometimes I want to draw a rather complicated diagram to include in my > OneNote notes. I have found that the Windows Journal program that comes > with Tablet PCs is still better for this than OneNote because it provides > more choices for the line style and color. Journal also allows you to > group a set of objects and move them around as a unit. finally, you can > drag copy things in Journal which you still cannot do in OneNote. So, I > use Journal any time I think my diagram will be very complicated. > > Getting the diagrams from Journal to OneNote is a little tricky due to > what I consider to be a bug in OneNote. Microsoft naturally calls it a > "feature." If you paste from Journal to OneNote and the default paste > mode is set to either "Keep Source Formatting" or "Match Destination > Formatting" then OneNote will paste the diagram as individual pieces of > ink and each of those pieces will be in its own separate multiply- > overlapping text box. It is a real mess. So, before you paste from > Journal to OneNote you need to set the default paste mode to either "Keep > Text Only" or "Paste as Picture." Preferably the latter. The only way to > do this is to copy and paste some text then choose "Paste as Picture" > from the Paste Options menu that appears, then you have to open that menu > again and choose "Set as default paste." If "Keep Text Only" just > happened to be the default paste mode when you paste from Journal then > you will see gibberish. Fortunately, it is easy enough to use the Paste > Options menu to change it to a picture. Remember, you must set the > default paste mode BEFORE you copy your diagram out of Journal. > > {Note to Microsoft: It would be really nice to be able to set a different > default paste option for each different program we may be pasting stuff > FROM. This would save us a lot of darn clicking every single time we > pasted something into OneNote.} > > Embedding Files: > After a few times of creating a diagram in Journal, getting it into > OneNote, then closing Journal only to realize that I needed to modify the > diagram, I was struck with the idea for my last tip. I keep the Journal > file that I used to create the diagrams in as an attachment to my OneNote > page. Just save the Journal file to your desktop and exit Journal. Drag > that icon onto your OneNote page. Use the second option of the Insert > File Options dialog "Insert a copy of the file onto the page." I usually > put the icon at the top next to the page title. After embedding the file > into your OneNote page you don't need it on your desktop any more so you > can just delete it. Now, if you need to change one of the diagrams you > can just open the Journal file right from OneNote, modify the diagram, > and re-paste it into OneNote in place of the previous version of the > diagram. > > I do the same thing for my equations. Rather than going straight to the > Equation Editor like I used to, I now open a blank Word document and > create the equations there. Choose { Insert / Object ; Microsoft Equation > 3.0 } from the Word menus. Sometimes I go straight to the Equation Editor > using the shortcut I mentioned above then copy all of my equations into > an empty Word document if I decide I want to keep them. Then I embed that > Word document into my OneNote page using the same method as for the > Journal file. I know that this increases the size of my OneNote files but > the time saved by not needing to recreate diagrams and equations is worth > it. Sometimes, when I need to make a new equation for a page I will open > up the Word file from a previous page and copy parts out of that to save > even more time. > > > Using these three techniques now allows me to create neat outlines of my > notes which can easily be rearranged as I rethink how they should be > organized. I hope they will prove helpful to you as well. > > > P.S. A final tip for Microsoft: If OneNote had OLE or whatever is the new > way to do that then none of this would be necessary. OLE (or whatever) > would provide a lot of the functionality that people keep asking for. For > example: If we could paste in an HTML OLE object from a browser, Word, or > another HTML editor then we could keep the HTML formatting intact and not > have to print space-hogging, non-editable, "non-copy-fromable" PICTURES > to OneNote. |
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| Re: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote Carmen, Are you using OneNote 2007? If so, then the new tables have their own menu and you can use it to do a lot of what Grant talks about. If you are using OneNote 2003, you won't have the new tables so you won't be able to use his great advice. Since ON 2007 is available at midnight tonight, if you don't have it - get it. :) -- Kathy Jacobs, Microsoft MVP OneNote and PowerPoint Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint Get PowerPoint and OneNote information at www.onppt.com I believe life is meant to be lived. But: if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived "Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell" <seegod1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:OmtciK6QHHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Okay, she said, now looking like the newbie she actually is, so how do I > get this table in ON? I can't seem to figure out how to do it... > > Yours sheepishly, :-) > C. > > "Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message > news:u6QuqupQHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> If any of you are like me, you often need to enter equations or diagrams >> into OneNote. While you could just draw them directly in OneNote you have >> probably found that organizing notes into a neat outline is next to >> impossible if you have used any handwriting and it is totally impossible >> if you have drawn any equations or diagrams. I have figured out a few >> tricks using tables, external programs, and embedding files into the >> OneNote page that allow me to create the neat and modifiable outlines >> that I prefer. >> >> Tables: >> A table can be moved around in an outline regardless of what is in that >> table. If you have a diagram you have made in OneNote, you can keep all >> the parts of that diagram together by putting them into a one-cell table. >> Simple create a 1x1 cell table, select all of your diagram with the lasso >> tool, cut that, then paste it into your 1x1 table. You can then drag that >> table anywhere in your outline you want and the whole diagram will stay >> together neatly. To make it easier to create tables I copied the create >> table toolbar button right in the menu bar next to the table menu. A >> single click and drag creates any size table I want. >> >> Sometimes you want to put a picture or diagram beside some text. You can >> use tables for this too. Put your text in one cell and the picture in the >> cell next to it. >> >> What a lot of people don't realize is that you can nest tables within >> other tables. Lets say you have a complicated chart you want to create. >> You want there to be one heading across the entire top of the chart, then >> you want a row or two of columns with things next to each other. Then you >> want another header going all the way across with more columns under >> that. Just create a 4x1 table (OneNote lists rows first), then place the >> cursor in the second row and create yet another table, say 2x4, for 2 >> rows of 4 columns. Do that again in the last row of the main table. Now >> you can put text, pictures, or diagrams into any of these cells. >> >> Anyone experienced with basic web page design should be familiar with >> these nested table techniques. Using them, you can create any complicated >> structure you desire. Just be creative. >> >> I have noticed that it is not possible to insert a line of text UNDER a >> table which is nested within another table cell. So I have gotten in the >> habit of entering a carriage return into the cell before creating the >> nested table within it and then creating that nested table on the first >> of those two blank lines. You can go back and clean up all those extra >> lines later. It is easy to create a blank line ABOVE a nested table. Just >> put the cursor at the beginning of the first cell in the nested table and >> press return. If you neglect to enter the extra, safety-line there is a >> workaround to add a line under your nested table. Select the entire >> nested table and cut it. Press return to add a second blank line to the >> cell. Sometimes you may need to press ctrl-enter to avoid creating a new >> row in the table or creating a new line below the entire table. Finally >> paste the nested table back in on the first blank line. >> >> External Programs: >> When I need to enter an equation into my study notes I want to be able to >> actually read the thing later. Also, if I print that out for anyone I >> want it to look professional. I also want to be able to manipulate this >> entire equation as a unit without worrying about parts of it shifting >> around or disappearing as can happen with ink sometimes. This is why I >> hate to just draw my equations into OneNote freehand. I use the Microsoft >> Equation Editor instead. I have created a shortcut directly to the >> Equation Editor on my Start Menu. The path to the executable is "C: >> \Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE" on my >> computer. It may be different on yours. >> >> Once you have created your equation you can just select it in Equation >> Editor and paste it into OneNote. It will paste in as a picture. The >> picture will be a little small so you may need to enlarge it. The easiest >> way to select the picture so you can enlarge it is to simply press the up >> arrow right after pasting-in the equation. OneNote always inserts an >> extra line under a pasted picture and leaves the cursor on that extra >> line, so pressing the up arrow moves the selection back to the picture. >> You can also drag the text pointer over a significant portion of the >> inside of the picture to select it. When you do this, keep the pointer >> within the borders of the picture rather than dragging a box around the >> outside of the picture as you would for other programs. You will have to >> ask the Microsoft people why they designed it that way. >> >> Sometimes I want to draw a rather complicated diagram to include in my >> OneNote notes. I have found that the Windows Journal program that comes >> with Tablet PCs is still better for this than OneNote because it provides >> more choices for the line style and color. Journal also allows you to >> group a set of objects and move them around as a unit. finally, you can >> drag copy things in Journal which you still cannot do in OneNote. So, I >> use Journal any time I think my diagram will be very complicated. >> >> Getting the diagrams from Journal to OneNote is a little tricky due to >> what I consider to be a bug in OneNote. Microsoft naturally calls it a >> "feature." If you paste from Journal to OneNote and the default paste >> mode is set to either "Keep Source Formatting" or "Match Destination >> Formatting" then OneNote will paste the diagram as individual pieces of >> ink and each of those pieces will be in its own separate multiply- >> overlapping text box. It is a real mess. So, before you paste from >> Journal to OneNote you need to set the default paste mode to either "Keep >> Text Only" or "Paste as Picture." Preferably the latter. The only way to >> do this is to copy and paste some text then choose "Paste as Picture" >> from the Paste Options menu that appears, then you have to open that menu >> again and choose "Set as default paste." If "Keep Text Only" just >> happened to be the default paste mode when you paste from Journal then >> you will see gibberish. Fortunately, it is easy enough to use the Paste >> Options menu to change it to a picture. Remember, you must set the >> default paste mode BEFORE you copy your diagram out of Journal. >> >> {Note to Microsoft: It would be really nice to be able to set a different >> default paste option for each different program we may be pasting stuff >> FROM. This would save us a lot of darn clicking every single time we >> pasted something into OneNote.} >> >> Embedding Files: >> After a few times of creating a diagram in Journal, getting it into >> OneNote, then closing Journal only to realize that I needed to modify the >> diagram, I was struck with the idea for my last tip. I keep the Journal >> file that I used to create the diagrams in as an attachment to my OneNote >> page. Just save the Journal file to your desktop and exit Journal. Drag >> that icon onto your OneNote page. Use the second option of the Insert >> File Options dialog "Insert a copy of the file onto the page." I usually >> put the icon at the top next to the page title. After embedding the file >> into your OneNote page you don't need it on your desktop any more so you >> can just delete it. Now, if you need to change one of the diagrams you >> can just open the Journal file right from OneNote, modify the diagram, >> and re-paste it into OneNote in place of the previous version of the >> diagram. >> >> I do the same thing for my equations. Rather than going straight to the >> Equation Editor like I used to, I now open a blank Word document and >> create the equations there. Choose { Insert / Object ; Microsoft Equation >> 3.0 } from the Word menus. Sometimes I go straight to the Equation Editor >> using the shortcut I mentioned above then copy all of my equations into >> an empty Word document if I decide I want to keep them. Then I embed that >> Word document into my OneNote page using the same method as for the >> Journal file. I know that this increases the size of my OneNote files but >> the time saved by not needing to recreate diagrams and equations is worth >> it. Sometimes, when I need to make a new equation for a page I will open >> up the Word file from a previous page and copy parts out of that to save >> even more time. >> >> >> Using these three techniques now allows me to create neat outlines of my >> notes which can easily be rearranged as I rethink how they should be >> organized. I hope they will prove helpful to you as well. >> >> >> P.S. A final tip for Microsoft: If OneNote had OLE or whatever is the new >> way to do that then none of this would be necessary. OLE (or whatever) >> would provide a lot of the functionality that people keep asking for. For >> example: If we could paste in an HTML OLE object from a browser, Word, or >> another HTML editor then we could keep the HTML formatting intact and not >> have to print space-hogging, non-editable, "non-copy-fromable" PICTURES >> to OneNote. > > |
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| Re: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell wrote: > Hey Grant! Thanks for this... there are some great ideas here, especially > the really simple one about putting a graphic/note inside a cell to move it > around... can't wait to try it out... well, once I've gone to Best Buy and > told them my Gateway pen seems to have died, that is... thank God for > extended warranties! :-) > > C. > I, too, have a gateway tablet. In less than one year, I have gone through 7 pens, 4 hard drives, one battery, one screen, and now, a motherboard. In short, the gateway tablets are poorly constructed, and their support is even poorer. Gateway does realize that problem with the finepoint pen, so, if you do an online chat with you (which should take about 45 minutes!), then you will have a new pen in the mail in a couple of days. erik btw, my dad is sending me is Lenovo X41 tablet because the gateway is so bad. I'm very excited! -- subscribe to my OneNote blog: here <http://www.erikpaul.net/index2.php?option=ds-syndicate&version=1&feed_id=4> submit requests for OneNote 14: here <http://www.erikpaul.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7> my home page http://www.erikpaul.net |
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| Re: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote Thanks Erik! C. "Erik Gulbrandsen" <erik_gulbrandsen_bogus_email@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message news:12rv6hacom6tgfb@corp.supernews.com... > Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell wrote: >> Hey Grant! Thanks for this... there are some great ideas here, especially >> the really simple one about putting a graphic/note inside a cell to move >> it around... can't wait to try it out... well, once I've gone to Best Buy >> and told them my Gateway pen seems to have died, that is... thank God for >> extended warranties! :-) >> >> C. >> > > I, too, have a gateway tablet. In less than one year, I have gone through > 7 pens, 4 hard drives, one battery, one screen, and now, a motherboard. > In short, the gateway tablets are poorly constructed, and their support is > even poorer. > > Gateway does realize that problem with the finepoint pen, so, if you do an > online chat with you (which should take about 45 minutes!), then you will > have a new pen in the mail in a couple of days. > > > erik > > btw, my dad is sending me is Lenovo X41 tablet because the gateway is so > bad. I'm very excited! > > -- > subscribe to my OneNote blog: here > > <http://www.erikpaul.net/index2.php?option=ds-syndicate&version=1&feed_id=4> > submit requests for OneNote 14: here > <http://www.erikpaul.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=7> > my home page http://www.erikpaul.net |
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| RE: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote Grant- what an excellent post. Thanks for taking the time to share those ideas. "Grant Robertson" wrote: > If any of you are like me, you often need to enter equations or diagrams > into OneNote. While you could just draw them directly in OneNote you have > probably found that organizing notes into a neat outline is next to > impossible if you have used any handwriting and it is totally impossible > if you have drawn any equations or diagrams. I have figured out a few > tricks using tables, external programs, and embedding files into the > OneNote page that allow me to create the neat and modifiable outlines > that I prefer. > > Tables: > A table can be moved around in an outline regardless of what is in that > table. If you have a diagram you have made in OneNote, you can keep all > the parts of that diagram together by putting them into a one-cell table. > Simple create a 1x1 cell table, select all of your diagram with the lasso > tool, cut that, then paste it into your 1x1 table. You can then drag that > table anywhere in your outline you want and the whole diagram will stay > together neatly. To make it easier to create tables I copied the create > table toolbar button right in the menu bar next to the table menu. A > single click and drag creates any size table I want. > > Sometimes you want to put a picture or diagram beside some text. You can > use tables for this too. Put your text in one cell and the picture in the > cell next to it. > > What a lot of people don't realize is that you can nest tables within > other tables. Lets say you have a complicated chart you want to create. > You want there to be one heading across the entire top of the chart, then > you want a row or two of columns with things next to each other. Then you > want another header going all the way across with more columns under > that. Just create a 4x1 table (OneNote lists rows first), then place the > cursor in the second row and create yet another table, say 2x4, for 2 > rows of 4 columns. Do that again in the last row of the main table. Now > you can put text, pictures, or diagrams into any of these cells. > > Anyone experienced with basic web page design should be familiar with > these nested table techniques. Using them, you can create any complicated > structure you desire. Just be creative. > > I have noticed that it is not possible to insert a line of text UNDER a > table which is nested within another table cell. So I have gotten in the > habit of entering a carriage return into the cell before creating the > nested table within it and then creating that nested table on the first > of those two blank lines. You can go back and clean up all those extra > lines later. It is easy to create a blank line ABOVE a nested table. Just > put the cursor at the beginning of the first cell in the nested table and > press return. If you neglect to enter the extra, safety-line there is a > workaround to add a line under your nested table. Select the entire > nested table and cut it. Press return to add a second blank line to the > cell. Sometimes you may need to press ctrl-enter to avoid creating a new > row in the table or creating a new line below the entire table. Finally > paste the nested table back in on the first blank line. > > External Programs: > When I need to enter an equation into my study notes I want to be able to > actually read the thing later. Also, if I print that out for anyone I > want it to look professional. I also want to be able to manipulate this > entire equation as a unit without worrying about parts of it shifting > around or disappearing as can happen with ink sometimes. This is why I > hate to just draw my equations into OneNote freehand. I use the Microsoft > Equation Editor instead. I have created a shortcut directly to the > Equation Editor on my Start Menu. The path to the executable is "C: > \Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE" on my > computer. It may be different on yours. > > Once you have created your equation you can just select it in Equation > Editor and paste it into OneNote. It will paste in as a picture. The > picture will be a little small so you may need to enlarge it. The easiest > way to select the picture so you can enlarge it is to simply press the up > arrow right after pasting-in the equation. OneNote always inserts an > extra line under a pasted picture and leaves the cursor on that extra > line, so pressing the up arrow moves the selection back to the picture. > You can also drag the text pointer over a significant portion of the > inside of the picture to select it. When you do this, keep the pointer > within the borders of the picture rather than dragging a box around the > outside of the picture as you would for other programs. You will have to > ask the Microsoft people why they designed it that way. > > Sometimes I want to draw a rather complicated diagram to include in my > OneNote notes. I have found that the Windows Journal program that comes > with Tablet PCs is still better for this than OneNote because it provides > more choices for the line style and color. Journal also allows you to > group a set of objects and move them around as a unit. finally, you can > drag copy things in Journal which you still cannot do in OneNote. So, I > use Journal any time I think my diagram will be very complicated. > > Getting the diagrams from Journal to OneNote is a little tricky due to > what I consider to be a bug in OneNote. Microsoft naturally calls it a > "feature." If you paste from Journal to OneNote and the default paste > mode is set to either "Keep Source Formatting" or "Match Destination > Formatting" then OneNote will paste the diagram as individual pieces of > ink and each of those pieces will be in its own separate multiply- > overlapping text box. It is a real mess. So, before you paste from > Journal to OneNote you need to set the default paste mode to either "Keep > Text Only" or "Paste as Picture." Preferably the latter. The only way to > do this is to copy and paste some text then choose "Paste as Picture" > from the Paste Options menu that appears, then you have to open that menu > again and choose "Set as default paste." If "Keep Text Only" just > happened to be the default paste mode when you paste from Journal then > you will see gibberish. Fortunately, it is easy enough to use the Paste > Options menu to change it to a picture. Remember, you must set the > default paste mode BEFORE you copy your diagram out of Journal. > > {Note to Microsoft: It would be really nice to be able to set a different > default paste option for each different program we may be pasting stuff > FROM. This would save us a lot of darn clicking every single time we > pasted something into OneNote.} > > Embedding Files: > After a few times of creating a diagram in Journal, getting it into > OneNote, then closing Journal only to realize that I needed to modify the > diagram, I was struck with the idea for my last tip. I keep the Journal > file that I used to create the diagrams in as an attachment to my OneNote > page. Just save the Journal file to your desktop and exit Journal. Drag > that icon onto your OneNote page. Use the second option of the Insert > File Options dialog "Insert a copy of the file onto the page." I usually > put the icon at the top next to the page title. After embedding the file > into your OneNote page you don't need it on your desktop any more so you > can just delete it. Now, if you need to change one of the diagrams you > can just open the Journal file right from OneNote, modify the diagram, > and re-paste it into OneNote in place of the previous version of the > diagram. > > I do the same thing for my equations. Rather than going straight to the > Equation Editor like I used to, I now open a blank Word document and > create the equations there. Choose { Insert / Object ; Microsoft Equation > 3.0 } from the Word menus. Sometimes I go straight to the Equation Editor > using the shortcut I mentioned above then copy all of my equations into > an empty Word document if I decide I want to keep them. Then I embed that > Word document into my OneNote page using the same method as for the > Journal file. I know that this increases the size of my OneNote files but > the time saved by not needing to recreate diagrams and equations is worth > it. Sometimes, when I need to make a new equation for a page I will open > up the Word file from a previous page and copy parts out of that to save > even more time. > > > Using these three techniques now allows me to create neat outlines of my > notes which can easily be rearranged as I rethink how they should be > organized. I hope they will prove helpful to you as well. > > > P.S. A final tip for Microsoft: If OneNote had OLE or whatever is the new > way to do that then none of this would be necessary. OLE (or whatever) > would provide a lot of the functionality that people keep asking for. For > example: If we could paste in an HTML OLE object from a browser, Word, or > another HTML editor then we could keep the HTML formatting intact and not > have to print space-hogging, non-editable, "non-copy-fromable" PICTURES > to OneNote. > |
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| RE: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote God! thank you Grant! I didn't know what to do in my chem and math class because there are so many equations. I used to just draw with laptop touchpad which is horrible. This windows equation editor is fantastic. It is now on my shortcut for sure. "Grant Robertson" wrote: > If any of you are like me, you often need to enter equations or diagrams > into OneNote. While you could just draw them directly in OneNote you have > probably found that organizing notes into a neat outline is next to > impossible if you have used any handwriting and it is totally impossible > if you have drawn any equations or diagrams. I have figured out a few > tricks using tables, external programs, and embedding files into the > OneNote page that allow me to create the neat and modifiable outlines > that I prefer. > > Tables: > A table can be moved around in an outline regardless of what is in that > table. If you have a diagram you have made in OneNote, you can keep all > the parts of that diagram together by putting them into a one-cell table. > Simple create a 1x1 cell table, select all of your diagram with the lasso > tool, cut that, then paste it into your 1x1 table. You can then drag that > table anywhere in your outline you want and the whole diagram will stay > together neatly. To make it easier to create tables I copied the create > table toolbar button right in the menu bar next to the table menu. A > single click and drag creates any size table I want. > > Sometimes you want to put a picture or diagram beside some text. You can > use tables for this too. Put your text in one cell and the picture in the > cell next to it. > > What a lot of people don't realize is that you can nest tables within > other tables. Lets say you have a complicated chart you want to create. > You want there to be one heading across the entire top of the chart, then > you want a row or two of columns with things next to each other. Then you > want another header going all the way across with more columns under > that. Just create a 4x1 table (OneNote lists rows first), then place the > cursor in the second row and create yet another table, say 2x4, for 2 > rows of 4 columns. Do that again in the last row of the main table. Now > you can put text, pictures, or diagrams into any of these cells. > > Anyone experienced with basic web page design should be familiar with > these nested table techniques. Using them, you can create any complicated > structure you desire. Just be creative. > > I have noticed that it is not possible to insert a line of text UNDER a > table which is nested within another table cell. So I have gotten in the > habit of entering a carriage return into the cell before creating the > nested table within it and then creating that nested table on the first > of those two blank lines. You can go back and clean up all those extra > lines later. It is easy to create a blank line ABOVE a nested table. Just > put the cursor at the beginning of the first cell in the nested table and > press return. If you neglect to enter the extra, safety-line there is a > workaround to add a line under your nested table. Select the entire > nested table and cut it. Press return to add a second blank line to the > cell. Sometimes you may need to press ctrl-enter to avoid creating a new > row in the table or creating a new line below the entire table. Finally > paste the nested table back in on the first blank line. > > External Programs: > When I need to enter an equation into my study notes I want to be able to > actually read the thing later. Also, if I print that out for anyone I > want it to look professional. I also want to be able to manipulate this > entire equation as a unit without worrying about parts of it shifting > around or disappearing as can happen with ink sometimes. This is why I > hate to just draw my equations into OneNote freehand. I use the Microsoft > Equation Editor instead. I have created a shortcut directly to the > Equation Editor on my Start Menu. The path to the executable is "C: > \Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\EQUATION\EQNEDT32.EXE" on my > computer. It may be different on yours. > > Once you have created your equation you can just select it in Equation > Editor and paste it into OneNote. It will paste in as a picture. The > picture will be a little small so you may need to enlarge it. The easiest > way to select the picture so you can enlarge it is to simply press the up > arrow right after pasting-in the equation. OneNote always inserts an > extra line under a pasted picture and leaves the cursor on that extra > line, so pressing the up arrow moves the selection back to the picture. > You can also drag the text pointer over a significant portion of the > inside of the picture to select it. When you do this, keep the pointer > within the borders of the picture rather than dragging a box around the > outside of the picture as you would for other programs. You will have to > ask the Microsoft people why they designed it that way. > > Sometimes I want to draw a rather complicated diagram to include in my > OneNote notes. I have found that the Windows Journal program that comes > with Tablet PCs is still better for this than OneNote because it provides > more choices for the line style and color. Journal also allows you to > group a set of objects and move them around as a unit. finally, you can > drag copy things in Journal which you still cannot do in OneNote. So, I > use Journal any time I think my diagram will be very complicated. > > Getting the diagrams from Journal to OneNote is a little tricky due to > what I consider to be a bug in OneNote. Microsoft naturally calls it a > "feature." If you paste from Journal to OneNote and the default paste > mode is set to either "Keep Source Formatting" or "Match Destination > Formatting" then OneNote will paste the diagram as individual pieces of > ink and each of those pieces will be in its own separate multiply- > overlapping text box. It is a real mess. So, before you paste from > Journal to OneNote you need to set the default paste mode to either "Keep > Text Only" or "Paste as Picture." Preferably the latter. The only way to > do this is to copy and paste some text then choose "Paste as Picture" > from the Paste Options menu that appears, then you have to open that menu > again and choose "Set as default paste." If "Keep Text Only" just > happened to be the default paste mode when you paste from Journal then > you will see gibberish. Fortunately, it is easy enough to use the Paste > Options menu to change it to a picture. Remember, you must set the > default paste mode BEFORE you copy your diagram out of Journal. > > {Note to Microsoft: It would be really nice to be able to set a different > default paste option for each different program we may be pasting stuff > FROM. This would save us a lot of darn clicking every single time we > pasted something into OneNote.} > > Embedding Files: > After a few times of creating a diagram in Journal, getting it into > OneNote, then closing Journal only to realize that I needed to modify the > diagram, I was struck with the idea for my last tip. I keep the Journal > file that I used to create the diagrams in as an attachment to my OneNote > page. Just save the Journal file to your desktop and exit Journal. Drag > that icon onto your OneNote page. Use the second option of the Insert > File Options dialog "Insert a copy of the file onto the page." I usually > put the icon at the top next to the page title. After embedding the file > into your OneNote page you don't need it on your desktop any more so you > can just delete it. Now, if you need to change one of the diagrams you > can just open the Journal file right from OneNote, modify the diagram, > and re-paste it into OneNote in place of the previous version of the > diagram. > > I do the same thing for my equations. Rather than going straight to the > Equation Editor like I used to, I now open a blank Word document and > create the equations there. Choose { Insert / Object ; Microsoft Equation > 3.0 } from the Word menus. Sometimes I go straight to the Equation Editor > using the shortcut I mentioned above then copy all of my equations into > an empty Word document if I decide I want to keep them. Then I embed that > Word document into my OneNote page using the same method as for the > Journal file. I know that this increases the size of my OneNote files but > the time saved by not needing to recreate diagrams and equations is worth > it. Sometimes, when I need to make a new equation for a page I will open > up the Word file from a previous page and copy parts out of that to save > even more time. > > > Using these three techniques now allows me to create neat outlines of my > notes which can easily be rearranged as I rethink how they should be > organized. I hope they will prove helpful to you as well. > > > P.S. A final tip for Microsoft: If OneNote had OLE or whatever is the new > way to do that then none of this would be necessary. OLE (or whatever) > would provide a lot of the functionality that people keep asking for. For > example: If we could paste in an HTML OLE object from a browser, Word, or > another HTML editor then we could keep the HTML formatting intact and not > have to print space-hogging, non-editable, "non-copy-fromable" PICTURES > to OneNote. > |
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| Re: Tips for entering equations and sketches into OneNote > "Grant Robertson" wrote: > > Once you have created your equation you can just select it in Equation > Editor and paste it into OneNote. It will paste in as a picture. The > picture will be a little small so you may need to enlarge it. The easiest > way to select the picture so you can enlarge it is to simply press the up > arrow right after pasting-in the equation. OneNote always inserts an > extra line under a pasted picture and leaves the cursor on that extra > line, so pressing the up arrow moves the selection back to the picture. > You can also drag the text pointer over a significant portion of the > inside of the picture to select it. When you do this, keep the pointer > within the borders of the picture rather than dragging a box around the > outside of the picture as you would for other programs. You will have to > ask the Microsoft people why they designed it that way. > What happened is that OneNote resized the picture you pasted. If you want it fixed, vote for this suggestion at https://connect.microsoft.com/onenot...dbackID=299207 > {Note to Microsoft: It would be really nice to be able to set a different > default paste option for each different program we may be pasting stuff > FROM. This would save us a lot of darn clicking every single time we > pasted something into OneNote.} > This is a good suggestion. Use the website above to post it. Then give us the url to vote for it. > P.S. A final tip for Microsoft: If OneNote had OLE or whatever is the new > way to do that then none of this would be necessary. OLE (or whatever) > would provide a lot of the functionality that people keep asking for. For > example: If we could paste in an HTML OLE object from a browser, Word, or > another HTML editor then we could keep the HTML formatting intact and not > have to print space-hogging, non-editable, "non-copy-fromable" PICTURES > to OneNote. But then, you would have to worry about OneNote viruses and the like ;-) |
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