Hello,

Modifications done an a file inserted in Onenote 2007, opened and saved from
Onenote 2007 does not appear in the original file. Modifications are only
visible from Onenote.

Is it possible that a file (word document for example) opened, modified and
saved from Onenote 2007 is saved on the original file?

Thanks?

superloupiot wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Modifications done an a file inserted in Onenote 2007, opened and
> saved from Onenote 2007 does not appear in the original file.
> Modifications are only visible from Onenote.
>
> Is it possible that a file (word document for example) opened,
> modified and saved from Onenote 2007 is saved on the original file?

If a file is *embedded* in ONENOTE, any changes will only be saved
inside ON. The original file remains untouched.

You could use "Save as ..." when editing in Word and save the file
outside ON.
This naturally includes the danger of overwriting a file which had been
changed meanwhile.

In order to work with the original file (and not the copy stored in ON)
you would have to use *LINKING* a file instead of embedding it.

HTH
Rainald

OK,

Is there a way to link a file rather than to embed the file?

Thanks,

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> a écrit dans le message de
news:uPV$5XFHKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> superloupiot wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Modifications done an a file inserted in Onenote 2007, opened and
>> saved from Onenote 2007 does not appear in the original file.
>> Modifications are only visible from Onenote.
>>
>> Is it possible that a file (word document for example) opened,
>> modified and saved from Onenote 2007 is saved on the original file?
>
> If a file is *embedded* in ONENOTE, any changes will only be saved
> inside ON. The original file remains untouched.
>
> You could use "Save as ..." when editing in Word and save the file
> outside ON.
> This naturally includes the danger of overwriting a file which had been
> changed meanwhile.
>
> In order to work with the original file (and not the copy stored in ON)
> you would have to use *LINKING* a file instead of embedding it.
>
> HTH
> Rainald
>

superloupiot wrote:

> Is there a way to link a file rather than to embed the file?

For sure! I would not have written on that, otherwise.

Way to go:
Drag + Drop.
Mark the file in the Windows Explorer and drag it onto a page in
OneNote.

Rainald

>
> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> a écrit dans le message de
> news:uPV$5XFHKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> superloupiot wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Modifications done an a file inserted in Onenote 2007, opened and
>>> saved from Onenote 2007 does not appear in the original file.
>>> Modifications are only visible from Onenote.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that a file (word document for example) opened,
>>> modified and saved from Onenote 2007 is saved on the original file?
>>
>> If a file is *embedded* in ONENOTE, any changes will only be saved
>> inside ON. The original file remains untouched.
>>
>> You could use "Save as ..." when editing in Word and save the file
>> outside ON.
>> This naturally includes the danger of overwriting a file which had
>> been changed meanwhile.
>>
>> In order to work with the original file (and not the copy stored in
>> ON) you would have to use *LINKING* a file instead of embedding it.
>>
>> HTH
>> Rainald

OK, it works!

But it trigs a new problem.
When i clik on the link, the first time, the file open correctly.
I make modification, save and close the file.

When i click again to reopen the file, OneNote generates the following error
message : Impossible to open the file. The software to which you want to
access is busy.

The file is a word 2007 file. I use the french version of office student &
family.

If I restart the computer than i can open the file again but only one time.
Second time, i get again the same error message.


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> a écrit dans le message de
news:eQSZUQHHKHA.6068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> superloupiot wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to link a file rather than to embed the file?
>
> For sure! I would not have written on that, otherwise.
>
> Way to go:
> Drag + Drop.
> Mark the file in the Windows Explorer and drag it onto a page in
> OneNote.
>
> Rainald
>
>>
>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> a écrit dans le message de
>> news:uPV$5XFHKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> superloupiot wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Modifications done an a file inserted in Onenote 2007, opened and
>>>> saved from Onenote 2007 does not appear in the original file.
>>>> Modifications are only visible from Onenote.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that a file (word document for example) opened,
>>>> modified and saved from Onenote 2007 is saved on the original file?
>>>
>>> If a file is *embedded* in ONENOTE, any changes will only be saved
>>> inside ON. The original file remains untouched.
>>>
>>> You could use "Save as ..." when editing in Word and save the file
>>> outside ON.
>>> This naturally includes the danger of overwriting a file which had
>>> been changed meanwhile.
>>>
>>> In order to work with the original file (and not the copy stored in
>>> ON) you would have to use *LINKING* a file instead of embedding it.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Rainald
>

Any luck on getting linking to work? I too have a shared ON folder on our
network. I link to various Word documents. The first time I click on the
link in ON 2007 it opens. If I close and try it again I get the following
error:

The action cannot be completed because the program to which you are
navigating is busy.

I can around this error by always have Word 2007 open with the file I am
linking to open in Word. This is a pain in the @ss though.

Anyone know why this is happening?

"superloupiot" wrote:

> OK, it works!
>
> But it trigs a new problem.
> When i clik on the link, the first time, the file open correctly.
> I make modification, save and close the file.
>
> When i click again to reopen the file, OneNote generates the following error
> message : Impossible to open the file. The software to which you want to
> access is busy.
>
> The file is a word 2007 file. I use the french version of office student &
> family.
>
> If I restart the computer than i can open the file again but only one time.
> Second time, i get again the same error message.
>
>
> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> a crit dans le message de
> news:eQSZUQHHKHA.6068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > superloupiot wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a way to link a file rather than to embed the file?
> >
> > For sure! I would not have written on that, otherwise.
> >
> > Way to go:
> > Drag + Drop.
> > Mark the file in the Windows Explorer and drag it onto a page in
> > OneNote.
> >
> > Rainald
> >
> >>
> >> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> a crit dans le message de
> >> news:uPV$5XFHKHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>> superloupiot wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> Modifications done an a file inserted in Onenote 2007, opened and
> >>>> saved from Onenote 2007 does not appear in the original file.
> >>>> Modifications are only visible from Onenote.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it possible that a file (word document for example) opened,
> >>>> modified and saved from Onenote 2007 is saved on the original file?
> >>>
> >>> If a file is *embedded* in ONENOTE, any changes will only be saved
> >>> inside ON. The original file remains untouched.
> >>>
> >>> You could use "Save as ..." when editing in Word and save the file
> >>> outside ON.
> >>> This naturally includes the danger of overwriting a file which had
> >>> been changed meanwhile.
> >>>
> >>> In order to work with the original file (and not the copy stored in
> >>> ON) you would have to use *LINKING* a file instead of embedding it.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>> Rainald
> >
>

paisan99 wrote:
> "superloupiot" wrote:

[...]
>> When i clik on the link, the first time, the file open correctly.
>> I make modification, save and close the file.
>>
>> When i click again to reopen the file, OneNote generates the
>> following error message : Impossible to open the file. The software
>> to which you want to access is busy.
>>
>> The file is a word 2007 file. I use the french version of office
>> student & family.
>>
>> If I restart the computer than i can open the file again but only
>> one time. Second time, i get again the same error message.
>
> Any luck on getting linking to work? I too have a shared ON folder
> on our network. I link to various Word documents. The first time I
> click on the link in ON 2007 it opens. If I close and try it again I
> get the following error:
>
> The action cannot be completed because the program to which you are
> navigating is busy.
>
> I can around this error by always have Word 2007 open with the file I
> am linking to open in Word. This is a pain in the @ss though.
>
> Anyone know why this is happening?

I hardly ever have to face this issue.
It only happens (sometimes) when I try to open the locked file
*immediately* after having closed it.
If I wait for a few seconds everything is OK.

As you are using a file stored in the network I'd rather assume that the
problem is caused by the record locking in the network and the unlocking
takes some time.
Unfortunately I don't have any idea on how to speed up the file handling
in the network.

BTW: Are documents stored on a "dedicated" server running under a server
OS or is just peer-to-peer networking?

Rainald

The documents are all stored on a dedicated Novell 5.1 server. I don't think
it is a timing issue as the ON link will always work as long as I open the
file saved on the network server in Word 2007 and just leave it open and
minimized on my desktop. I have no clue why this keeps the error message
from popping up though and it is definitely not a workaround. I have seen
this same error show up when trying to open pdf files stored on the same
server in the same shared folder so I am not really sure if it is just an
Office 2007 problem or not.

FYI, I have another user who has set up her own ON and shares it with her
using a network shared folder on the same Novell server but she experiences
none of these issues. I cannot see any difference between her ON stuff and
the other users. Any ideas of what settings, preferences, etc might be
different in ON or Windows XP that I might check to ensure they are set the
same way for each user?

Thanks.

Let me know if there is any other information I can provide that might help.



"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> paisan99 wrote:
> > "superloupiot" wrote:
>
> [...]
> >> When i clik on the link, the first time, the file open correctly.
> >> I make modification, save and close the file.
> >>
> >> When i click again to reopen the file, OneNote generates the
> >> following error message : Impossible to open the file. The software
> >> to which you want to access is busy.
> >>
> >> The file is a word 2007 file. I use the french version of office
> >> student & family.
> >>
> >> If I restart the computer than i can open the file again but only
> >> one time. Second time, i get again the same error message.
> >
> > Any luck on getting linking to work? I too have a shared ON folder
> > on our network. I link to various Word documents. The first time I
> > click on the link in ON 2007 it opens. If I close and try it again I
> > get the following error:
> >
> > The action cannot be completed because the program to which you are
> > navigating is busy.
> >
> > I can around this error by always have Word 2007 open with the file I
> > am linking to open in Word. This is a pain in the @ss though.
> >
> > Anyone know why this is happening?
>
> I hardly ever have to face this issue.
> It only happens (sometimes) when I try to open the locked file
> *immediately* after having closed it.
> If I wait for a few seconds everything is OK.
>
> As you are using a file stored in the network I'd rather assume that the
> problem is caused by the record locking in the network and the unlocking
> takes some time.
> Unfortunately I don't have any idea on how to speed up the file handling
> in the network.
>
> BTW: Are documents stored on a "dedicated" server running under a server
> OS or is just peer-to-peer networking?
>
> Rainald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

-------- Original-Nachricht --------

> Any luck on getting linking to work? I too have a shared ON folder on our
> network. I link to various Word documents. The first time I click on the
> link in ON 2007 it opens. If I close and try it again I get the following
> error:
>
> The action cannot be completed because the program to which you are
> navigating is busy.
>
> I can around this error by always have Word 2007 open with the file I am
> linking to open in Word. This is a pain in the @ss though.
>
> Anyone know why this is happening?
>

Does it work having Word open with ANOTHER file ?

Bernd

Correction: I have now found that by simply opening Word and leaving it open
and minimized the linked Word document will open everytime without seeing the
"busy" error message. Same goes for Excel.

Any ideas as to why simply having Word open would allow ON to work correctly.

"Bernd" wrote:

>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
> > Any luck on getting linking to work? I too have a shared ON folder on our
> > network. I link to various Word documents. The first time I click on the
> > link in ON 2007 it opens. If I close and try it again I get the following
> > error:
> >
> > The action cannot be completed because the program to which you are
> > navigating is busy.
> >
> > I can around this error by always have Word 2007 open with the file I am
> > linking to open in Word. This is a pain in the @ss though.
> >
> > Anyone know why this is happening?
> >
>
> Does it work having Word open with ANOTHER file ?
>
> Bernd
>

-------- Original-Nachricht --------

> Correction: I have now found that by simply opening Word and leaving it open
> and minimized the linked Word document will open everytime without seeing the
> "busy" error message. Same goes for Excel.
>
> Any ideas as to why simply having Word open would allow ON to work correctly.
>
> "Bernd" wrote:
>
Even if you havn't answered my question, I suspect that the start of
word/excel is taking too long. So it's a timing problem.
You could test with Word only started, without any document opened.

Bernd

Simply opening the Word program and minimizing it allows ON links to open
each and every time without getting the "busy" message. But I cannot see the
relationship between opening a link in ON to a Word document and having to
have the Word program open and running.

I am not sure what you mean be a timing issue. What is taking too long?

Thanks for your help.

"Bernd" wrote:

>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
> > Correction: I have now found that by simply opening Word and leaving it open
> > and minimized the linked Word document will open everytime without seeing the
> > "busy" error message. Same goes for Excel.
> >
> > Any ideas as to why simply having Word open would allow ON to work correctly.
> >
> > "Bernd" wrote:
> >
> Even if you havn't answered my question, I suspect that the start of
> word/excel is taking too long. So it's a timing problem.
> You could test with Word only started, without any document opened.
>
> Bernd
>

-------- Original-Nachricht --------

> Simply opening the Word program and minimizing it allows ON links to open
> each and every time without getting the "busy" message. But I cannot see the
> relationship between opening a link in ON to a Word document and having to
> have the Word program open and running.
>
> I am not sure what you mean be a timing issue. What is taking too long?
>

This reaction I expected.

The question is, how does ON execute your click on the link.
There are two different general procedures:

1. ON starts Word asynchronously with a file parameter describing the
path to the linked file. Period. = "fire and forget"
-> Never any timing problem

2. ON acts synchronously, that means: at first ON starts Word AND wants
to communicate with Word for telling the path etc. to Word. So it WAITS
for a reaction/acknowledgment from Word. Such wait MUST have a time
limit. If Word's start time is too long -> "busy".

If Word is already started -> no problem in both cases.

That's what I GUESS.

If anyone knows it better ...please tell us

Bernd

"Bernd" wrote:

>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
> > Simply opening the Word program and minimizing it allows ON links to open
> > each and every time without getting the "busy" message. But I cannot see the
> > relationship between opening a link in ON to a Word document and having to
> > have the Word program open and running.
> >
> > I am not sure what you mean be a timing issue. What is taking too long?
> >
>
> This reaction I expected.
>
> The question is, how does ON execute your click on the link.
> There are two different general procedures:
>
> 1. ON starts Word asynchronously with a file parameter describing the
> path to the linked file. Period. = "fire and forget"
> -> Never any timing problem
>
> 2. ON acts synchronously, that means: at first ON starts Word AND wants
> to communicate with Word for telling the path etc. to Word. So it WAITS
> for a reaction/acknowledgment from Word. Such wait MUST have a time
> limit. If Word's start time is too long -> "busy".
>
> If Word is already started -> no problem in both cases.
>
> That's what I GUESS.
>
> If anyone knows it better ...please tell us
>
> Bernd
>
>

Finally figured out what is causing the busy message. If you have the add-in
called "Microsoft Office Live Add-In" checked in Word 2007 or Excel 2007 you
simply need to uncheck this and the busy message is gone and ON works.
Crazy, but glad it works now.

"Bernd" wrote:

>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
> > Simply opening the Word program and minimizing it allows ON links to open
> > each and every time without getting the "busy" message. But I cannot see the
> > relationship between opening a link in ON to a Word document and having to
> > have the Word program open and running.
> >
> > I am not sure what you mean be a timing issue. What is taking too long?
> >
>
> This reaction I expected.
>
> The question is, how does ON execute your click on the link.
> There are two different general procedures:
>
> 1. ON starts Word asynchronously with a file parameter describing the
> path to the linked file. Period. = "fire and forget"
> -> Never any timing problem
>
> 2. ON acts synchronously, that means: at first ON starts Word AND wants
> to communicate with Word for telling the path etc. to Word. So it WAITS
> for a reaction/acknowledgment from Word. Such wait MUST have a time
> limit. If Word's start time is too long -> "busy".
>
> If Word is already started -> no problem in both cases.
>
> That's what I GUESS.
>
> If anyone knows it better ...please tell us
>
> Bernd
>
>