Hi

I have many issues running Microsoft Office 2007 on Windows Vista Ultimate;
and most of them are SharePoint 2007 related.

Try the following to get an idea of what I am talking about.

- Create a OneNote shared notebook, and store it on a SharePoint library,
restart the machine, and try to see if it still synchronizes.

- Try to open the OneNote book from another machine using the File Open
dialog, and see if you can get it to open from there :-)

- Map a network drive under a letter like Z, and try to create a Shared
OneNote book there, it will not use the drive letter, it will be replaced by
the path, but I don't want that, if I tell the machine it is a drive latter,
it is a drive latter.

- Try to map a SharePoint library to a drive latter under vista, I did it,
but it is even tough for a professional user.

Just try OneNote and SharePoint 2007 under Vista together, and see if it
works as is should.

It looks like it was rushed to the market before it was a 100% completed,
so, when is 2007 Service Pack 1?

> - Create a OneNote shared notebook, and store it on a SharePoint
library,
> restart the machine, and try to see if it still synchronizes.
>
> - Try to open the OneNote book from another machine using the File Open
> dialog, and see if you can get it to open from there :-)
I'll test that once I have a SharePoint site available

> - Map a network drive under a letter like Z, and try to create a Shared
> OneNote book there, it will not use the drive letter, it will be replaced by
> the path, but I don't want that, if I tell the machine it is a drive latter,
> it is a drive latter.
Sorry, but that's correct behavior. That's the way it should work,
because drive letters are very volatile. I think most programs written
after Windows 95 or so came out should behave like this.
If you want to force it to a drive letter, use subst to assign a drive
letter and it shouldn't be resolved into a path.

> - Try to map a SharePoint library to a drive latter under vista, I did it,
> but it is even tough for a professional user.
Will try.

> It looks like it was rushed to the market before it was a 100% completed,
> so, when is 2007 Service Pack 1?
No idea. Nobody knows.
You are using the RTM version of Vista?

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About the network path and the drive latter, if I want to use a drive latter
instead of a network path, then there was a very good reason for me to do
that!

If I ask OneNote to use a drive latter, I am expecting OneNote to use the
drive latter, the last thing that I want someone at Microsoft taking a
decision for me and denying me that.

It is disappointing that Microsoft treats all its customers as clueless
users (I don't want to say stupid) , if I want a system to do something is a
specific way, let me do that, don't just go and take a decision instead of
me.

I am using Vista RTM and Office RTM, and SharePoint 2007, and in some cases
these 3 are not working well together, especially when it about sharing or
mapping data of a SharePoint library to Vista, authentication issues (does
not save your password for example), etc.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
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>> - Create a OneNote shared notebook, and store it on a SharePoint
> library,
>> restart the machine, and try to see if it still synchronizes.
>>
>> - Try to open the OneNote book from another machine using the File Open
>> dialog, and see if you can get it to open from there :-)
> I'll test that once I have a SharePoint site available
>
>> - Map a network drive under a letter like Z, and try to create a Shared
>> OneNote book there, it will not use the drive letter, it will be replaced
>> by
>> the path, but I don't want that, if I tell the machine it is a drive
>> latter,
>> it is a drive latter.
> Sorry, but that's correct behavior. That's the way it should work, because
> drive letters are very volatile. I think most programs written after
> Windows 95 or so came out should behave like this.
> If you want to force it to a drive letter, use subst to assign a drive
> letter and it shouldn't be resolved into a path.
>
>> - Try to map a SharePoint library to a drive latter under vista, I did
>> it,
>> but it is even tough for a professional user.
> Will try.
>
>> It looks like it was rushed to the market before it was a 100% completed,
>> so, when is 2007 Service Pack 1?
> No idea. Nobody knows.
> You are using the RTM version of Vista?
>
> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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GT wrote:
> About the network path and the drive latter, if I want to use a drive
> latter instead of a network path, then there was a very good reason for
> me to do that!
>
> If I ask OneNote to use a drive latter, I am expecting OneNote to use
> the drive latter, the last thing that I want someone at Microsoft taking
> a decision for me and denying me that.
>
> It is disappointing that Microsoft treats all its customers as clueless
> users (I don't want to say stupid) , if I want a system to do something
> is a specific way, let me do that, don't just go and take a decision
> instead of me.
>
> I am using Vista RTM and Office RTM, and SharePoint 2007, and in some
> cases these 3 are not working well together, especially when it about
> sharing or mapping data of a SharePoint library to Vista, authentication
> issues (does not save your password for example), etc.
>
> "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eyp4KzjPHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> - Create a OneNote shared notebook, and store it on a SharePoint
>> library,
>>> restart the machine, and try to see if it still synchronizes.
>>>
>>> - Try to open the OneNote book from another machine using the File Open
>>> dialog, and see if you can get it to open from there :-)
>> I'll test that once I have a SharePoint site available
>>
>>> - Map a network drive under a letter like Z, and try to create a Shared
>>> OneNote book there, it will not use the drive letter, it will be
>>> replaced by
>>> the path, but I don't want that, if I tell the machine it is a drive
>>> latter,
>>> it is a drive latter.
>> Sorry, but that's correct behavior. That's the way it should work,
>> because drive letters are very volatile. I think most programs written
>> after Windows 95 or so came out should behave like this.
>> If you want to force it to a drive letter, use subst to assign a drive
>> letter and it shouldn't be resolved into a path.
>>
>>> - Try to map a SharePoint library to a drive latter under vista, I
>>> did it,
>>> but it is even tough for a professional user.
>> Will try.
>>
>>> It looks like it was rushed to the market before it was a 100%
>>> completed,
>>> so, when is 2007 Service Pack 1?
>> No idea. Nobody knows.
>> You are using the RTM version of Vista?
>>
>> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
>> --------------
>> http://pschmid.net
>> ***
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>> Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
>> http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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>
If you want your operating system to do exactly what you want it to,
try devian, gentoo, fedora or some other flavor of linux. These are
customizable like crazy. Drawback? The biggest one is no app like
OneNote for the unix OS.

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> About the network path and the drive latter, if I want to use a drive
latter
> instead of a network path, then there was a very good reason for me to do
> that!
For most users, resolving the drive letter to a network path and then
using the network path instead provides a much more robust and reliable
handling of network shares. This is a typical behavior for a lot of
Windows programs, and OneNote is no exception. As I said before, if you
want it to use a drive letter, then play around with subst.

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>
> If I ask OneNote to use a drive latter, I am expecting OneNote to use the
> drive latter, the last thing that I want someone at Microsoft taking a
> decision for me and denying me that.
>
> It is disappointing that Microsoft treats all its customers as clueless
> users (I don't want to say stupid) , if I want a system to do something is a
> specific way, let me do that, don't just go and take a decision instead of
> me.
>
> I am using Vista RTM and Office RTM, and SharePoint 2007, and in some cases
> these 3 are not working well together, especially when it about sharing or
> mapping data of a SharePoint library to Vista, authentication issues (does
> not save your password for example), etc.
>
> "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eyp4KzjPHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> - Create a OneNote shared notebook, and store it on a SharePoint
> > library,
> >> restart the machine, and try to see if it still synchronizes.
> >>
> >> - Try to open the OneNote book from another machine using the File Open
> >> dialog, and see if you can get it to open from there :-)
> > I'll test that once I have a SharePoint site available
> >
> >> - Map a network drive under a letter like Z, and try to create a Shared
> >> OneNote book there, it will not use the drive letter, it will be replaced
> >> by
> >> the path, but I don't want that, if I tell the machine it is a drive
> >> latter,
> >> it is a drive latter.
> > Sorry, but that's correct behavior. That's the way it should work, because
> > drive letters are very volatile. I think most programs written after
> > Windows 95 or so came out should behave like this.
> > If you want to force it to a drive letter, use subst to assign a drive
> > letter and it shouldn't be resolved into a path.
> >
> >> - Try to map a SharePoint library to a drive latter under vista, I did
> >> it,
> >> but it is even tough for a professional user.
> > Will try.
> >
> >> It looks like it was rushed to the market before it was a 100% completed,
> >> so, when is 2007 Service Pack 1?
> > No idea. Nobody knows.
> > You are using the RTM version of Vista?
> >
> > Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> > --------------
> > http://pschmid.net
> > ***
> > Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> > Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
> > http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
> > ***
> > Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> > RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> > OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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> >

> If you want your operating system to do exactly what you want it to,
> try devian, gentoo, fedora or some other flavor of linux. These are
> customizable like crazy. Drawback? The biggest one is no app like
> OneNote for the unix OS.
You forgot the biggest drawback for the OP: They don't have drive
letters.

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Patrick Schmid [MVP] shared these words of wisdom:

>> If you want your operating system to do exactly what you want it
>> to, try devian, gentoo, fedora or some other flavor of linux.
>> These are customizable like crazy. Drawback? The biggest one is
>> no app like OneNote for the unix OS.
>
> You forgot the biggest drawback for the OP: They don't have drive
> letters.

ROFLMAO

Rainald

Patrick Schmid [MVP] wrote:
>> If you want your operating system to do exactly what you want it to,
>> try devian, gentoo, fedora or some other flavor of linux. These are
>> customizable like crazy. Drawback? The biggest one is no app like
>> OneNote for the unix OS.
> You forgot the biggest drawback for the OP: They don't have drive letters.
>
> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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hahahaha!
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I don't think you are getting what I was trying to say, and an MVP making
fun of a customer is not a plus for Microsoft you know.

Anyway, I don't like that a product is treating me like a clueless user, at
least I should be informed if OneNote decided to change the drive latter to
a path, at least a pop message that will give me the chance to say yes or no
to the change.

If the Vista team did his job as it should and Vista supported the direct
shares to SharePoint, and if the OneNote team did his job correctly and was
able to consume those shares without errors, I would have not be here
complaining in the first place.

I found a trick that makes OneNote to use a drive latter instead of a path,
and I solved my problem, and that means that the OneNote team who
implemented the conversion of a drive latter to a path did not do his job as
well either (they missed a spot).



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
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>> If you want your operating system to do exactly what you want it to,
>> try devian, gentoo, fedora or some other flavor of linux. These are
>> customizable like crazy. Drawback? The biggest one is no app like
>> OneNote for the unix OS.
> You forgot the biggest drawback for the OP: They don't have drive letters.
>
> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> --------------
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> I don't think you are getting what I was trying to say, and an MVP
making
> fun of a customer is not a plus for Microsoft you know.
You are not my customer as an MVP is not a Microsoft employee. I am a
user like you.

> Anyway, I don't like that a product is treating me like a clueless user, at
> least I should be informed if OneNote decided to change the drive latter to
> a path, at least a pop message that will give me the chance to say yes or no
> to the change.
Most users would have absolutely no idea what to do with such a message.
So of course the program does what the vast majority of the users would
expect it to do (everyone wants their files accessible no matter whether
the drive letter to the network share is still there or not. Drive
letters are highly volatile, network shares themselves are not).
Drive letters themselves are a relic of DOS days and a modern network
infrastructure could easily do without mapping any network shares to
drives.

> I found a trick that makes OneNote to use a drive latter instead of a path,
> and I solved my problem, and that means that the OneNote team who
> implemented the conversion of a drive latter to a path did not do his job as
> well either (they missed a spot).
I'd presume that the resolution of the drive letter to a path is handled
by a Windows API call and not by something implemented by the ON team.

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>
>
>
> "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uGAPGowPHHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> If you want your operating system to do exactly what you want it to,
> >> try devian, gentoo, fedora or some other flavor of linux. These are
> >> customizable like crazy. Drawback? The biggest one is no app like
> >> OneNote for the unix OS.
> > You forgot the biggest drawback for the OP: They don't have drive letters.
> >
> > Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> > --------------
> > http://pschmid.net
> > ***
> > Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> > Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
> > http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
> > ***
> > Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
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> >