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Old 06-24-2009, 10:20 PM
Paul
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Searching documents placed inside a .one file

I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one file, and
it appears that the only thing that can be searched is the name of teh file,
but not the contents. When I say that I searched OneNote, what I mean is
that I opened up a .one file and then in the upper right corner (just in
front of teh magnifying glass) in that .one file, I entered a search term.
Will this search be able to search within files I've placed inside a .one
file? Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality? I
just switched my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure
if this would make a difference or not).

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Vista Home Basic
Office 2007

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Re: Searching documents placed inside a .one file

Paul wrote:

> I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one
> file, and it appears that the only thing that can be searched is the
> name of teh file, but not the contents. When I say that I searched
> OneNote, what I mean is that I opened up a .one file and then in the
> upper right corner (just in front of teh magnifying glass) in that
> .one file, I entered a search term. Will this search be able to
> search within files I've placed inside a .one file?


No. OneNote will only search in its own content but not in files which
have been imported (embedded).
However, as it's OneNote content *images* will be searched too (as
OneNote runs an automatic OCR in the background.

> Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality?


No, there is nothing that could be enabled in so far.

> I just switched
> my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure if this
> would make a difference or not).


WDS is an essential for searching in OneNote.
And you may find the files you are after by just using the WDS search.

Rainald

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Old 06-25-2009, 08:20 AM
Paul
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Re: Searching documents placed inside a .one file

Alright things aren't working out with OneNote. I can't seem to search
content very well.

For content that I have copied/pasted into OneNote, I can search within
onenote itself and find search terms. But using WDS, I can't even find
those search terms. WDS only seems to be able to search the titles, and not
content, of these .one files--and when I say "content," I mean not only
files I have inserted into ON, but also stuff I've copied/pasted.

For example, I have Constitution.one on my desktop. I can find all
references to "Jefferson" in my .one file by searching within ON itself
(there are quite a few), but using WDS, and searching for "Jefferson," I
don't see it in the results.

Is there something I'm not doing right here? I do have my desktop set to be
indexed by Windows, and I even moved htat particular .one file into the
Documents folder and the same thing happened--title was indexed but not any
content.

--
Paul
Vista Home Basic
Office 2007
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Paul wrote:
>
>> I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one
>> file, and it appears that the only thing that can be searched is the
>> name of teh file, but not the contents. When I say that I searched
>> OneNote, what I mean is that I opened up a .one file and then in the
>> upper right corner (just in front of teh magnifying glass) in that
>> .one file, I entered a search term. Will this search be able to
>> search within files I've placed inside a .one file?

>
> No. OneNote will only search in its own content but not in files which
> have been imported (embedded).
> However, as it's OneNote content *images* will be searched too (as
> OneNote runs an automatic OCR in the background.
>
>> Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality?

>
> No, there is nothing that could be enabled in so far.
>
>> I just switched
>> my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure if this
>> would make a difference or not).

>
> WDS is an essential for searching in OneNote.
> And you may find the files you are after by just using the WDS search.
>
> Rainald
>


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Old 06-25-2009, 12:10 PM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Searching documents placed inside a .one file

Paul wrote:

> Alright things aren't working out with OneNote. I can't seem to search
> content very well.


You'll get there ;-) ;-)

> For content that I have copied/pasted into OneNote, I can search
> within onenote itself and find search terms. But using WDS, I can't
> even find those search terms. WDS only seems to be able to search the
> titles, and not content, of these .one files--and when I say
> "content," I mean not only files I have inserted into ON, but also
> stuff I've copied/pasted.


Searching content of OneNote through WDS works pretty well for me.
Could it be that you did not configure WDS to include OneNote in the
lost of the indexed area?
Just open the "indexing options" applet in the control panel and check
things there.
>
> For example, I have Constitution.one on my desktop. I can find all
> references to "Jefferson" in my .one file by searching within ON
> itself (there are quite a few), but using WDS, and searching for
> "Jefferson," I don't see it in the results.


Something like this definitely works. The whole content is searched if
OneNote is included in the index.
The matches are shown in the search results lists and a double click
opens OneNote with the proper page.

> Is there something I'm not doing right here? I do have my desktop set
> to be indexed by Windows, and I even moved htat particular .one file
> into the Documents folder and the same thing happened--title was
> indexed but not any content.


The latter is not enough. You have to explicitly select OneNote as an
application in the list of items to be indexed.
Then let the system run the indexing. This may take some time. Just let
the computer turned OneNote over night to have the job done.

Rainald


> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:uz5EGzZ9JHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one
>>> file, and it appears that the only thing that can be searched is the
>>> name of teh file, but not the contents. When I say that I searched
>>> OneNote, what I mean is that I opened up a .one file and then in the
>>> upper right corner (just in front of teh magnifying glass) in that
>>> .one file, I entered a search term. Will this search be able to
>>> search within files I've placed inside a .one file?

>>
>> No. OneNote will only search in its own content but not in files
>> which have been imported (embedded).
>> However, as it's OneNote content *images* will be searched too (as
>> OneNote runs an automatic OCR in the background.
>>
>>> Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality?

>>
>> No, there is nothing that could be enabled in so far.
>>
>>> I just switched
>>> my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure if this
>>> would make a difference or not).

>>
>> WDS is an essential for searching in OneNote.
>> And you may find the files you are after by just using the WDS
>> search.
>>
>> Rainald



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Old 06-25-2009, 12:50 PM
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Re: Searching documents placed inside a .one file

Hmmm well it appears that ON is set to be indexed by WDS. You can see what I
already had in the screenshot:
http://img291.imageshack.us/i/20090625123534.jpg/

I suppose that this is what you were talking about... or wasn't it?

--
Paul
Vista Home Basic
Office 2007
"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:%23hahvdc9JHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Paul wrote:
>
>> Alright things aren't working out with OneNote. I can't seem to search
>> content very well.

>
> You'll get there ;-) ;-)
>
>> For content that I have copied/pasted into OneNote, I can search
>> within onenote itself and find search terms. But using WDS, I can't
>> even find those search terms. WDS only seems to be able to search the
>> titles, and not content, of these .one files--and when I say
>> "content," I mean not only files I have inserted into ON, but also
>> stuff I've copied/pasted.

>
> Searching content of OneNote through WDS works pretty well for me.
> Could it be that you did not configure WDS to include OneNote in the
> lost of the indexed area?
> Just open the "indexing options" applet in the control panel and check
> things there.
>>
>> For example, I have Constitution.one on my desktop. I can find all
>> references to "Jefferson" in my .one file by searching within ON
>> itself (there are quite a few), but using WDS, and searching for
>> "Jefferson," I don't see it in the results.

>
> Something like this definitely works. The whole content is searched if
> OneNote is included in the index.
> The matches are shown in the search results lists and a double click
> opens OneNote with the proper page.
>
>> Is there something I'm not doing right here? I do have my desktop set
>> to be indexed by Windows, and I even moved htat particular .one file
>> into the Documents folder and the same thing happened--title was
>> indexed but not any content.

>
> The latter is not enough. You have to explicitly select OneNote as an
> application in the list of items to be indexed.
> Then let the system run the indexing. This may take some time. Just let
> the computer turned OneNote over night to have the job done.
>
> Rainald
>
>
>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:uz5EGzZ9JHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one
>>>> file, and it appears that the only thing that can be searched is the
>>>> name of teh file, but not the contents. When I say that I searched
>>>> OneNote, what I mean is that I opened up a .one file and then in the
>>>> upper right corner (just in front of teh magnifying glass) in that
>>>> .one file, I entered a search term. Will this search be able to
>>>> search within files I've placed inside a .one file?
>>>
>>> No. OneNote will only search in its own content but not in files
>>> which have been imported (embedded).
>>> However, as it's OneNote content *images* will be searched too (as
>>> OneNote runs an automatic OCR in the background.
>>>
>>>> Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality?
>>>
>>> No, there is nothing that could be enabled in so far.
>>>
>>>> I just switched
>>>> my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure if this
>>>> would make a difference or not).
>>>
>>> WDS is an essential for searching in OneNote.
>>> And you may find the files you are after by just using the WDS
>>> search.
>>>
>>> Rainald

>
>


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Old 06-25-2009, 01:00 PM
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Re: Searching documents placed inside a .one file

OK. I just searched again and found that it would in fact find content
inside ON--evidently when I was searching before, it had indexed the titles
of the .one files, but not the contents yet. OK at least that's one more
thing that isn't broken here... Thanks.

--
Paul
Vista Home Basic
Office 2007
"Paul" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3C680B0E-F8C7-4190-8B50-F46C60001FBE@microsoft.com...
> Hmmm well it appears that ON is set to be indexed by WDS. You can see what
> I already had in the screenshot:
> http://img291.imageshack.us/i/20090625123534.jpg/
>
> I suppose that this is what you were talking about... or wasn't it?
>
> --
> Paul
> Vista Home Basic
> Office 2007
> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:%23hahvdc9JHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Alright things aren't working out with OneNote. I can't seem to search
>>> content very well.

>>
>> You'll get there ;-) ;-)
>>
>>> For content that I have copied/pasted into OneNote, I can search
>>> within onenote itself and find search terms. But using WDS, I can't
>>> even find those search terms. WDS only seems to be able to search the
>>> titles, and not content, of these .one files--and when I say
>>> "content," I mean not only files I have inserted into ON, but also
>>> stuff I've copied/pasted.

>>
>> Searching content of OneNote through WDS works pretty well for me.
>> Could it be that you did not configure WDS to include OneNote in the
>> lost of the indexed area?
>> Just open the "indexing options" applet in the control panel and check
>> things there.
>>>
>>> For example, I have Constitution.one on my desktop. I can find all
>>> references to "Jefferson" in my .one file by searching within ON
>>> itself (there are quite a few), but using WDS, and searching for
>>> "Jefferson," I don't see it in the results.

>>
>> Something like this definitely works. The whole content is searched if
>> OneNote is included in the index.
>> The matches are shown in the search results lists and a double click
>> opens OneNote with the proper page.
>>
>>> Is there something I'm not doing right here? I do have my desktop set
>>> to be indexed by Windows, and I even moved htat particular .one file
>>> into the Documents folder and the same thing happened--title was
>>> indexed but not any content.

>>
>> The latter is not enough. You have to explicitly select OneNote as an
>> application in the list of items to be indexed.
>> Then let the system run the indexing. This may take some time. Just let
>> the computer turned OneNote over night to have the job done.
>>
>> Rainald
>>
>>
>>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:uz5EGzZ9JHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one
>>>>> file, and it appears that the only thing that can be searched is the
>>>>> name of teh file, but not the contents. When I say that I searched
>>>>> OneNote, what I mean is that I opened up a .one file and then in the
>>>>> upper right corner (just in front of teh magnifying glass) in that
>>>>> .one file, I entered a search term. Will this search be able to
>>>>> search within files I've placed inside a .one file?
>>>>
>>>> No. OneNote will only search in its own content but not in files
>>>> which have been imported (embedded).
>>>> However, as it's OneNote content *images* will be searched too (as
>>>> OneNote runs an automatic OCR in the background.
>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality?
>>>>
>>>> No, there is nothing that could be enabled in so far.
>>>>
>>>>> I just switched
>>>>> my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure if this
>>>>> would make a difference or not).
>>>>
>>>> WDS is an essential for searching in OneNote.
>>>> And you may find the files you are after by just using the WDS
>>>> search.
>>>>
>>>> Rainald

>>
>>

>


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Old 06-25-2009, 06:40 PM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Searching documents placed inside a .one file

Paul wrote:

> Hmmm well it appears that ON is set to be indexed by WDS. You can see
> what I already had in the screenshot:
> http://img291.imageshack.us/i/20090625123534.jpg/
>
> I suppose that this is what you were talking about... or wasn't it?


Yes, that's what I had been talking about.

If OneNote is already checked for Indexing, just give it time.

Be assured that WDS and OneNote together work really fine. I would
hardly know how to work without that!

Rainald

*----
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Alright things aren't working out with OneNote. I can't seem to
>>> search content very well.

>>
>> You'll get there ;-) ;-)
>>
>>> For content that I have copied/pasted into OneNote, I can search
>>> within onenote itself and find search terms. But using WDS, I can't
>>> even find those search terms. WDS only seems to be able to search
>>> the titles, and not content, of these .one files--and when I say
>>> "content," I mean not only files I have inserted into ON, but also
>>> stuff I've copied/pasted.

>>
>> Searching content of OneNote through WDS works pretty well for me.
>> Could it be that you did not configure WDS to include OneNote in the
>> lost of the indexed area?
>> Just open the "indexing options" applet in the control panel and
>> check things there.
>>>
>>> For example, I have Constitution.one on my desktop. I can find all
>>> references to "Jefferson" in my .one file by searching within ON
>>> itself (there are quite a few), but using WDS, and searching for
>>> "Jefferson," I don't see it in the results.

>>
>> Something like this definitely works. The whole content is searched
>> if OneNote is included in the index.
>> The matches are shown in the search results lists and a double click
>> opens OneNote with the proper page.
>>
>>> Is there something I'm not doing right here? I do have my desktop
>>> set to be indexed by Windows, and I even moved htat particular .one
>>> file into the Documents folder and the same thing happened--title
>>> was indexed but not any content.

>>
>> The latter is not enough. You have to explicitly select OneNote as an
>> application in the list of items to be indexed.
>> Then let the system run the indexing. This may take some time. Just
>> let the computer turned OneNote over night to have the job done.
>>
>> Rainald
>>
>>
>>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:uz5EGzZ9JHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one
>>>>> file, and it appears that the only thing that can be searched is
>>>>> the name of teh file, but not the contents. When I say that I
>>>>> searched OneNote, what I mean is that I opened up a .one file and
>>>>> then in the upper right corner (just in front of teh magnifying
>>>>> glass) in that .one file, I entered a search term. Will this
>>>>> search be able to search within files I've placed inside a .one
>>>>> file?
>>>>
>>>> No. OneNote will only search in its own content but not in files
>>>> which have been imported (embedded).
>>>> However, as it's OneNote content *images* will be searched too (as
>>>> OneNote runs an automatic OCR in the background.
>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality?
>>>>
>>>> No, there is nothing that could be enabled in so far.
>>>>
>>>>> I just switched
>>>>> my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure if
>>>>> this would make a difference or not).
>>>>
>>>> WDS is an essential for searching in OneNote.
>>>> And you may find the files you are after by just using the WDS
>>>> search.
>>>>
>>>> Rainald



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Rainald Taesler
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Re: Searching documents placed inside a .one file

Thanks for your report on your intermediary success.
Just give the system enough time to index everything set in the list.
That's really hard work. And it's time-taking therefore.

Check the state of the indexing progress from time to time.
As said: it's hard work ;-)

Rainald


Paul wrote:

> OK. I just searched again and found that it would in fact find content
> inside ON--evidently when I was searching before, it had indexed the
> titles of the .one files, but not the contents yet. OK at least
> that's one more thing that isn't broken here... Thanks.
>
> --
> Paul
> Vista Home Basic
> Office 2007
> "Paul" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:3C680B0E-F8C7-4190-8B50-F46C60001FBE@microsoft.com...
>> Hmmm well it appears that ON is set to be indexed by WDS. You can
>> see what I already had in the screenshot:
>> http://img291.imageshack.us/i/20090625123534.jpg/
>>
>> I suppose that this is what you were talking about... or wasn't it?
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>> Vista Home Basic
>> Office 2007
>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:%23hahvdc9JHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alright things aren't working out with OneNote. I can't seem to
>>>> search content very well.
>>>
>>> You'll get there ;-) ;-)
>>>
>>>> For content that I have copied/pasted into OneNote, I can search
>>>> within onenote itself and find search terms. But using WDS, I
>>>> can't even find those search terms. WDS only seems to be able to
>>>> search the titles, and not content, of these .one files--and when
>>>> I say "content," I mean not only files I have inserted into ON,
>>>> but also stuff I've copied/pasted.
>>>
>>> Searching content of OneNote through WDS works pretty well for me.
>>> Could it be that you did not configure WDS to include OneNote in the
>>> lost of the indexed area?
>>> Just open the "indexing options" applet in the control panel and
>>> check things there.
>>>>
>>>> For example, I have Constitution.one on my desktop. I can find all
>>>> references to "Jefferson" in my .one file by searching within ON
>>>> itself (there are quite a few), but using WDS, and searching for
>>>> "Jefferson," I don't see it in the results.
>>>
>>> Something like this definitely works. The whole content is searched
>>> if OneNote is included in the index.
>>> The matches are shown in the search results lists and a double click
>>> opens OneNote with the proper page.
>>>
>>>> Is there something I'm not doing right here? I do have my desktop
>>>> set to be indexed by Windows, and I even moved htat particular
>>>> .one file into the Documents folder and the same thing
>>>> happened--title was indexed but not any content.
>>>
>>> The latter is not enough. You have to explicitly select OneNote as
>>> an application in the list of items to be indexed.
>>> Then let the system run the indexing. This may take some time. Just
>>> let the computer turned OneNote over night to have the job done.
>>>
>>> Rainald
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:uz5EGzZ9JHA.4948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just did a search through documents that I've placed in a .one
>>>>>> file, and it appears that the only thing that can be searched is
>>>>>> the name of teh file, but not the contents. When I say that I
>>>>>> searched OneNote, what I mean is that I opened up a .one file
>>>>>> and then in the upper right corner (just in front of teh
>>>>>> magnifying glass) in that .one file, I entered a search term.
>>>>>> Will this search be able to search within files I've placed
>>>>>> inside a .one file?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. OneNote will only search in its own content but not in files
>>>>> which have been imported (embedded).
>>>>> However, as it's OneNote content *images* will be searched too (as
>>>>> OneNote runs an automatic OCR in the background.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I need to enable something in order to get this functionality?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, there is nothing that could be enabled in so far.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just switched
>>>>>> my default search engine to Windows Desktop Search (not sure if
>>>>>> this would make a difference or not).
>>>>>
>>>>> WDS is an essential for searching in OneNote.
>>>>> And you may find the files you are after by just using the WDS
>>>>> search.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rainald



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