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Old 11-15-2007, 04:00 PM
LT1
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Text Recognition and Conversion

I write in block capital letters and have completed the handwritting
trainging. Is there anyway to tell OneNote that I write in capitals so my
coversion might go a little better.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:20 PM
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Re: Text Recognition and Conversion

No, there's no way to bias the handwriting recognizer towards capital
letters as an end user. The Windows handwriting recognizer prefers
normal-cased writing (cursive works best) and dictionary words.

In my humble opinion (sorry OneNote guys, I love the program but...) the
OneNote implementation of handwriting recognition is horrible. The biggest
problem is the correction interface and how the recognized text is inserted
into the document. For this reason I always either use the input panel to
enter text when I need it, or just leave the ink as ink.

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"LT1" <LT1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I write in block capital letters and have completed the handwritting
> trainging. Is there anyway to tell OneNote that I write in capitals so my
> coversion might go a little better.


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Old 11-16-2007, 02:20 PM
Erik Sojka (MVP)
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Re: Text Recognition and Conversion

True, they didn't recreate the TIP, but the intent I think was to
streamline the note taking and input process. FWIW, I think it works well,
and the multiple conversions stored if the handwriting in unclear is
supposed to yield more accurate search results without having to correct
each word entered. It seems like a better approach when writing a metric
boatload of Ink as opposed to the tiny bit-at-a-time that you get with the
TIP.

"Josh Einstein" <josh@einsteintech.net> wrote in
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> No, there's no way to bias the handwriting recognizer towards capital
> letters as an end user. The Windows handwriting recognizer prefers
> normal-cased writing (cursive works best) and dictionary words.
>
> In my humble opinion (sorry OneNote guys, I love the program but...)
> the OneNote implementation of handwriting recognition is horrible. The
> biggest problem is the correction interface and how the recognized
> text is inserted into the document. For this reason I always either
> use the input panel to enter text when I need it, or just leave the
> ink as ink.
>


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Old 11-18-2007, 01:10 AM
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Re: Text Recognition and Conversion

My complaints are primarily that:

1) Is is difficult to convert multiple pieces of handwriting into text
without wacky spacing between the words.
2) The results always seem to be worse than the input panel or even Journal.
3) The correction interface is not optimal for full-page note taking. The
Windows Journal approach is better, but still pretty ancient by now. If I
had the time, I'd like to create a nice correction UI for OneNote that was
optimized for converting a whole page of ink.

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"Erik Sojka (MVP)" <esojka@ms-onenote.net.nospam> wrote in message
news:uGDoa3JKIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> True, they didn't recreate the TIP, but the intent I think was to
> streamline the note taking and input process. FWIW, I think it works
> well,
> and the multiple conversions stored if the handwriting in unclear is
> supposed to yield more accurate search results without having to correct
> each word entered. It seems like a better approach when writing a metric
> boatload of Ink as opposed to the tiny bit-at-a-time that you get with the
> TIP.
>
> "Josh Einstein" <josh@einsteintech.net> wrote in
> news:0B03C7AF-446A-49B2-82AC-57A9B5CFC32E@microsoft.com:
>
>> No, there's no way to bias the handwriting recognizer towards capital
>> letters as an end user. The Windows handwriting recognizer prefers
>> normal-cased writing (cursive works best) and dictionary words.
>>
>> In my humble opinion (sorry OneNote guys, I love the program but...)
>> the OneNote implementation of handwriting recognition is horrible. The
>> biggest problem is the correction interface and how the recognized
>> text is inserted into the document. For this reason I always either
>> use the input panel to enter text when I need it, or just leave the
>> ink as ink.
>>

>


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Old 11-18-2007, 01:40 AM
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Re: Text Recognition and Conversion

wow, Josh, if you ever start on that correction interface... I'm sure
there's loads of people that would be very happy! Especially for non-
English users of ON 'the ink recognition is a pain.As you said-much
worse then the tip. . .
I'm so looking forward to the trainable ink for dutch. Anyway, thanks
for all your work!
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:20 AM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Text Recognition and Conversion

Josh Einstein schrieb:

> My complaints are primarily that:
> 3) The correction interface is not optimal for full-page
> note taking. The Windows Journal approach is better, but still
> pretty ancient by now. If I had the time, I'd like to create a nice
> correction UI for OneNote that was optimized for converting a whole
> page of ink.


I just sent an add-on for my WishList to Santa; may he fulfill the wish
and bring you a huge parcel with compressed time <bg>.

The said UI would be fantastic!

Rainald

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