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Old 09-19-2007, 01:59 AM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Inserting file as printout options

ANewStudentUser wrote:

> I read on other threads that many people wanted some function that
> was available in ON2003 (which I never used) that let them insert
> one slide on a page and then insert the next slide on a
> sub-page...this sounds a little similar to what you're mentioning
> now, with one slide per page.


This unfortunately is not possible.

> With my hierarchy system, having the entire slide appear on one
> page works quite well. The issue I have is really just with the
> size each slides appears in. I tried selecting them all and then
> re-sizing to see if I could re-size them all at the same time, but
> it didn't seem to work.


Re-sizing all of the slides works with a workaround: If the images are
placed inside a container, one can resize the container:
- from the menu select "Edit | Select | All";
- cut the selection (Shift+Del, Ctrl+X, etc.)
- create a container by typing (a headline, f.e.);
- paste the content of the clipboard into the container (Shift+Ins,
Ctrl+V, etc.).

When all of the images are inside the container you can drag the
container smaller and the images will be resized.

Another advantage of having the images inside a container:
When you add new text below an image, the rest of the container's
content will be moved an not overwritten

> Or, another idea, although it still would be time consuming, is to
> have some feature where I could "cut" a section of an image (like a
> pdf file with 6 slides printed on it) and move that section where I
> liked, so I could have more white space to annotate with.
>
> I guess the screen-capture could do that, but that means I must
> screen capture each slide, instead of just slightly shifting areas
> of the picture when I need it.


Using a screen capture would be the most time taking way.
If you want to handle the slides one by one, you may just copy and paste
the slides (one at a time) in PowerPoint in the *left* column and then
paste the slide into ON (into a container).

Another way would be to export the slide-show from PowerPoint to a a PDF
(with the PDF/XPS feature), open the PDF in the Adobe Reader and
copy+paste things from there.

And there's some more alternatives:
1.) Export ("Publish") the slide-show into Word. Arrange things in Word
and then print to ON from there. You might play with "handouts" as well
as "speaker's notes" (with lines and without). When done print to ON.

2.) Export from PowerPoint to a PDF.
Then in the Adobe Reader print the PDF to ON.

With both of the above for "Send to OneNote" on can select a different
paper-size (f.e. A5 or Japanese postcard) and by this create smaller
images in ON.

Just a few ideas.
All of that is not too comfortable.
But until the basic problem in ON will be cured (I assume that this
issue ranks high on the developers list of necessary changes) there is
nothing we can do except using workarounds.

HTH
Rainald

> "John Guin" wrote:
>
>> Yeah, this bothers me too. I would like to be able to print one
>> slide per page, and maybe shrink it at the same time so I can take
>> notes to the right of the slide. If the slide shrank enough,
>> there may even be room for 2 slides per page, with room for notes.
>>
>> ("Note Pages" style comes close to what I want, but the notes area
>> is below the slide. )
>>
>> Is that something along the lines of what you want?
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> John Guin
>> OneNote Test Team
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin
>>
>>
>> "ANewStudentUser" wrote:
>>
>>> I'm attempting to import a PowerPoint presentation into my
>>> notebook so I can annotate it. Inserting the file as a printout
>>> first of all takes a LONG time, which is a little irritating, but
>>> secondly and more importantly: inserts each PowerPoint slide
>>> really oversized, basically the same size as the slide if you
>>> printed it out on paper. This means I need to scroll across and
>>> down, re-size each slide and move it up the page with EACH SLIDE,
>>> which, as you can guess for a 50+ slide presentation, is nothing
>>> but a hassle.
>>>
>>> I tried printing to OneNote from PowerPoint as a six-slide
>>> handout, which gave me more appropriately sized slides, but now I
>>> can't move each individual slide where I'd like and the amount of
>>> space I have between slides is fixed.
>>>
>>> Is there an easier way? Can I adjust what size the slides are on
>>> the Notebook when they're inserted as printouts? And if not - can
>>> I make it an official suggestion?


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Old 09-19-2007, 08:50 AM
John Guin
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Re: Inserting file as printout options

Jeff Cardon, another tester on the OneNote team, created a tool to do just
this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/controlpanel/b...postid=4998512

Hope it helps,
--
Thanks,
John Guin
OneNote Test Team
http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin


"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> ANewStudentUser wrote:
>
> > I read on other threads that many people wanted some function that
> > was available in ON2003 (which I never used) that let them insert
> > one slide on a page and then insert the next slide on a
> > sub-page...this sounds a little similar to what you're mentioning
> > now, with one slide per page.

>
> This unfortunately is not possible.
>
> > With my hierarchy system, having the entire slide appear on one
> > page works quite well. The issue I have is really just with the
> > size each slides appears in. I tried selecting them all and then
> > re-sizing to see if I could re-size them all at the same time, but
> > it didn't seem to work.

>
> Re-sizing all of the slides works with a workaround: If the images are
> placed inside a container, one can resize the container:
> - from the menu select "Edit | Select | All";
> - cut the selection (Shift+Del, Ctrl+X, etc.)
> - create a container by typing (a headline, f.e.);
> - paste the content of the clipboard into the container (Shift+Ins,
> Ctrl+V, etc.).
>
> When all of the images are inside the container you can drag the
> container smaller and the images will be resized.
>
> Another advantage of having the images inside a container:
> When you add new text below an image, the rest of the container's
> content will be moved an not overwritten
>
> > Or, another idea, although it still would be time consuming, is to
> > have some feature where I could "cut" a section of an image (like a
> > pdf file with 6 slides printed on it) and move that section where I
> > liked, so I could have more white space to annotate with.
> >
> > I guess the screen-capture could do that, but that means I must
> > screen capture each slide, instead of just slightly shifting areas
> > of the picture when I need it.

>
> Using a screen capture would be the most time taking way.
> If you want to handle the slides one by one, you may just copy and paste
> the slides (one at a time) in PowerPoint in the *left* column and then
> paste the slide into ON (into a container).
>
> Another way would be to export the slide-show from PowerPoint to a a PDF
> (with the PDF/XPS feature), open the PDF in the Adobe Reader and
> copy+paste things from there.
>
> And there's some more alternatives:
> 1.) Export ("Publish") the slide-show into Word. Arrange things in Word
> and then print to ON from there. You might play with "handouts" as well
> as "speaker's notes" (with lines and without). When done print to ON.
>
> 2.) Export from PowerPoint to a PDF.
> Then in the Adobe Reader print the PDF to ON.
>
> With both of the above for "Send to OneNote" on can select a different
> paper-size (f.e. A5 or Japanese postcard) and by this create smaller
> images in ON.
>
> Just a few ideas.
> All of that is not too comfortable.
> But until the basic problem in ON will be cured (I assume that this
> issue ranks high on the developers list of necessary changes) there is
> nothing we can do except using workarounds.
>
> HTH
> Rainald
>
> > "John Guin" wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, this bothers me too. I would like to be able to print one
> >> slide per page, and maybe shrink it at the same time so I can take
> >> notes to the right of the slide. If the slide shrank enough,
> >> there may even be room for 2 slides per page, with room for notes.
> >>
> >> ("Note Pages" style comes close to what I want, but the notes area
> >> is below the slide. )
> >>
> >> Is that something along the lines of what you want?
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >> John Guin
> >> OneNote Test Team
> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin
> >>
> >>
> >> "ANewStudentUser" wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm attempting to import a PowerPoint presentation into my
> >>> notebook so I can annotate it. Inserting the file as a printout
> >>> first of all takes a LONG time, which is a little irritating, but
> >>> secondly and more importantly: inserts each PowerPoint slide
> >>> really oversized, basically the same size as the slide if you
> >>> printed it out on paper. This means I need to scroll across and
> >>> down, re-size each slide and move it up the page with EACH SLIDE,
> >>> which, as you can guess for a 50+ slide presentation, is nothing
> >>> but a hassle.
> >>>
> >>> I tried printing to OneNote from PowerPoint as a six-slide
> >>> handout, which gave me more appropriately sized slides, but now I
> >>> can't move each individual slide where I'd like and the amount of
> >>> space I have between slides is fixed.
> >>>
> >>> Is there an easier way? Can I adjust what size the slides are on
> >>> the Notebook when they're inserted as printouts? And if not - can
> >>> I make it an official suggestion?

>
>

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Old 09-19-2007, 05:30 PM
ANewStudentUser
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Re: Inserting file as printout options

Thank you very much for those suggestions, the container workaround works
nicely. Also, now that I've had a closer look at the properties windows when
printing to ON, I know that it's quite easy to re-size the slides. making
them a custom size and sending it to ON works well because I can still
re-size each individual slide in case there's some small text that needs
enlarging.

Anyway, perfect! Thanks for your help.

"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> ANewStudentUser wrote:
>
> > I read on other threads that many people wanted some function that
> > was available in ON2003 (which I never used) that let them insert
> > one slide on a page and then insert the next slide on a
> > sub-page...this sounds a little similar to what you're mentioning
> > now, with one slide per page.

>
> This unfortunately is not possible.
>
> > With my hierarchy system, having the entire slide appear on one
> > page works quite well. The issue I have is really just with the
> > size each slides appears in. I tried selecting them all and then
> > re-sizing to see if I could re-size them all at the same time, but
> > it didn't seem to work.

>
> Re-sizing all of the slides works with a workaround: If the images are
> placed inside a container, one can resize the container:
> - from the menu select "Edit | Select | All";
> - cut the selection (Shift+Del, Ctrl+X, etc.)
> - create a container by typing (a headline, f.e.);
> - paste the content of the clipboard into the container (Shift+Ins,
> Ctrl+V, etc.).
>
> When all of the images are inside the container you can drag the
> container smaller and the images will be resized.
>
> Another advantage of having the images inside a container:
> When you add new text below an image, the rest of the container's
> content will be moved an not overwritten
>
> > Or, another idea, although it still would be time consuming, is to
> > have some feature where I could "cut" a section of an image (like a
> > pdf file with 6 slides printed on it) and move that section where I
> > liked, so I could have more white space to annotate with.
> >
> > I guess the screen-capture could do that, but that means I must
> > screen capture each slide, instead of just slightly shifting areas
> > of the picture when I need it.

>
> Using a screen capture would be the most time taking way.
> If you want to handle the slides one by one, you may just copy and paste
> the slides (one at a time) in PowerPoint in the *left* column and then
> paste the slide into ON (into a container).
>
> Another way would be to export the slide-show from PowerPoint to a a PDF
> (with the PDF/XPS feature), open the PDF in the Adobe Reader and
> copy+paste things from there.
>
> And there's some more alternatives:
> 1.) Export ("Publish") the slide-show into Word. Arrange things in Word
> and then print to ON from there. You might play with "handouts" as well
> as "speaker's notes" (with lines and without). When done print to ON.
>
> 2.) Export from PowerPoint to a PDF.
> Then in the Adobe Reader print the PDF to ON.
>
> With both of the above for "Send to OneNote" on can select a different
> paper-size (f.e. A5 or Japanese postcard) and by this create smaller
> images in ON.
>
> Just a few ideas.
> All of that is not too comfortable.
> But until the basic problem in ON will be cured (I assume that this
> issue ranks high on the developers list of necessary changes) there is
> nothing we can do except using workarounds.
>
> HTH
> Rainald
>
> > "John Guin" wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, this bothers me too. I would like to be able to print one
> >> slide per page, and maybe shrink it at the same time so I can take
> >> notes to the right of the slide. If the slide shrank enough,
> >> there may even be room for 2 slides per page, with room for notes.
> >>
> >> ("Note Pages" style comes close to what I want, but the notes area
> >> is below the slide. )
> >>
> >> Is that something along the lines of what you want?
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >> John Guin
> >> OneNote Test Team
> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin
> >>
> >>
> >> "ANewStudentUser" wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm attempting to import a PowerPoint presentation into my
> >>> notebook so I can annotate it. Inserting the file as a printout
> >>> first of all takes a LONG time, which is a little irritating, but
> >>> secondly and more importantly: inserts each PowerPoint slide
> >>> really oversized, basically the same size as the slide if you
> >>> printed it out on paper. This means I need to scroll across and
> >>> down, re-size each slide and move it up the page with EACH SLIDE,
> >>> which, as you can guess for a 50+ slide presentation, is nothing
> >>> but a hassle.
> >>>
> >>> I tried printing to OneNote from PowerPoint as a six-slide
> >>> handout, which gave me more appropriately sized slides, but now I
> >>> can't move each individual slide where I'd like and the amount of
> >>> space I have between slides is fixed.
> >>>
> >>> Is there an easier way? Can I adjust what size the slides are on
> >>> the Notebook when they're inserted as printouts? And if not - can
> >>> I make it an official suggestion?

>
>

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Old 09-24-2007, 08:00 AM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Inserting file as printout options

John Guin wrote:

> Jeff Cardon, another tester on the OneNote team, created a tool to
> do just this:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/controlpanel/b...postid=4998512



Thanks for the pointer, John.

The link is not functional, however.
I receive the error-message:
"Access Denied: Post Permission Denied
Either this forum does not exist or you
are not allowed to post."

I finally managed the page by using the link in your signature and
searching around.

Rainald
P.S. I downloaded the tool and will report back


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Old 09-24-2007, 08:10 AM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: Inserting file as printout options

Thanks for the feedback.
Glad to hear that I was able to help working around the limitations.

Rainald


ANewStudentUser schrieb:

> Thank you very much for those suggestions, the container workaround
> works nicely. Also, now that I've had a closer look at the
> properties windows when printing to ON, I know that it's quite easy
> to re-size the slides. making them a custom size and sending it to
> ON works well because I can still re-size each individual slide in
> case there's some small text that needs enlarging.
>
> Anyway, perfect! Thanks for your help.
>
> "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
>
>> ANewStudentUser wrote:
>>
>>> I read on other threads that many people wanted some function that
>>> was available in ON2003 (which I never used) that let them insert
>>> one slide on a page and then insert the next slide on a
>>> sub-page...this sounds a little similar to what you're mentioning
>>> now, with one slide per page.

>>
>> This unfortunately is not possible.
>>
>>> With my hierarchy system, having the entire slide appear on one
>>> page works quite well. The issue I have is really just with the
>>> size each slides appears in. I tried selecting them all and then
>>> re-sizing to see if I could re-size them all at the same time, but
>>> it didn't seem to work.

>>
>> Re-sizing all of the slides works with a workaround: If the images
>> are placed inside a container, one can resize the container:
>> - from the menu select "Edit | Select | All";
>> - cut the selection (Shift+Del, Ctrl+X, etc.)
>> - create a container by typing (a headline, f.e.);
>> - paste the content of the clipboard into the container (Shift+Ins,
>> Ctrl+V, etc.).
>>
>> When all of the images are inside the container you can drag the
>> container smaller and the images will be resized.
>>
>> Another advantage of having the images inside a container:
>> When you add new text below an image, the rest of the container's
>> content will be moved an not overwritten
>>
>>> Or, another idea, although it still would be time consuming, is to
>>> have some feature where I could "cut" a section of an image (like
>>> a pdf file with 6 slides printed on it) and move that section
>>> where I liked, so I could have more white space to annotate with.
>>>
>>> I guess the screen-capture could do that, but that means I must
>>> screen capture each slide, instead of just slightly shifting areas
>>> of the picture when I need it.

>>
>> Using a screen capture would be the most time taking way.
>> If you want to handle the slides one by one, you may just copy and
>> paste the slides (one at a time) in PowerPoint in the *left*
>> column and then paste the slide into ON (into a container).
>>
>> Another way would be to export the slide-show from PowerPoint to a
>> a PDF (with the PDF/XPS feature), open the PDF in the Adobe Reader
>> and copy+paste things from there.
>>
>> And there's some more alternatives:
>> 1.) Export ("Publish") the slide-show into Word. Arrange things in
>> Word and then print to ON from there. You might play with
>> "handouts" as well as "speaker's notes" (with lines and without).
>> When done print to ON.
>>
>> 2.) Export from PowerPoint to a PDF.
>> Then in the Adobe Reader print the PDF to ON.
>>
>> With both of the above for "Send to OneNote" on can select a
>> different paper-size (f.e. A5 or Japanese postcard) and by this
>> create smaller images in ON.
>>
>> Just a few ideas.
>> All of that is not too comfortable.
>> But until the basic problem in ON will be cured (I assume that this
>> issue ranks high on the developers list of necessary changes)
>> there is nothing we can do except using workarounds.
>>
>> HTH
>> Rainald
>>
>>> "John Guin" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, this bothers me too. I would like to be able to print one
>>>> slide per page, and maybe shrink it at the same time so I can
>>>> take notes to the right of the slide. If the slide shrank
>>>> enough, there may even be room for 2 slides per page, with room
>>>> for notes.
>>>>
>>>> ("Note Pages" style comes close to what I want, but the notes
>>>> area is below the slide. )
>>>>
>>>> Is that something along the lines of what you want?
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John Guin
>>>> OneNote Test Team
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/johnguin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "ANewStudentUser" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm attempting to import a PowerPoint presentation into my
>>>>> notebook so I can annotate it. Inserting the file as a printout
>>>>> first of all takes a LONG time, which is a little irritating,
>>>>> but secondly and more importantly: inserts each PowerPoint slide
>>>>> really oversized, basically the same size as the slide if you
>>>>> printed it out on paper. This means I need to scroll across and
>>>>> down, re-size each slide and move it up the page with EACH
>>>>> SLIDE, which, as you can guess for a 50+ slide presentation, is
>>>>> nothing but a hassle.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried printing to OneNote from PowerPoint as a six-slide
>>>>> handout, which gave me more appropriately sized slides, but now
>>>>> I can't move each individual slide where I'd like and the
>>>>> amount of space I have between slides is fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there an easier way? Can I adjust what size the slides are on
>>>>> the Notebook when they're inserted as printouts? And if not -
>>>>> can I make it an official suggestion?

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