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Old 04-21-2007, 08:45 PM
J-Mac
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OneNote 2007 Without Windows Desktop Search?

I purchsed/installed OneNote 2007 last month and I really enjoy using
it - very useful application.

However I ran into some problems with Windows Desktop Search and
finally had to uninstall it last night. I guess I'll find out soon
enough, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me just how much of
OneNote 2007's functionality is degraded by removing Windows Desktop
Search and using OneNote 2007 without it?

The reason I had to lose WDS is that it continually interferes with my
ability to use Dragon NaturallySpeaking in Office applications. I use
Dragon NaturallySpeaking rather than my keyboard as my input method
due to a disability.

The problem is that Windows Desktop Search is continually active
in one way or another. Since installing WDS, Dragon
NaturallySpeaking continually loses focus in Word 2003. Dictation can
proceed, but neither my cursor nor any highlighting in Word 2003 and
Outlook 2003 (using Word as an editor, as required by
Dragon NS) are visible, making dictation extremely difficult.
Pausing/suspending indexing in Desktop Search does not help, as the
SearchIndexer process still runs and steals focus. Stopping the
SearchIndexer process in the Windows Task Manager is unsuccessful
because Windows Search runs as a service, so after ending the process
the Search Indexer service is automatically restarted almost
immediately.

I manually stopped the service, thinking I would simply start it again
later and let WDS index when I am not at the PC. But the service
restarted automatically. Next I stopped the service again, and this
time set the Recovery tab options from "Restart the service" after the
first and second failures - the default setting is "Take No Action".
Then I stopped the service manually again. Much to my surprise, the
service still restarted in less than a minute. I then checked the
dependencies for the Windows Search service, and found that it is
controlled by Terminal Services>Remote Procedure Call. I can't stop
those services without severe consequences - too many other
applications and services would be affected. I don't know
the consequences of breaking the dependency of the Windows Search
service on the RPC service. I posted but received no responses in the
Windows Desktop Search newsgroup, so I could find no other option and
removed Windows Desktop Search from my PC altogether.

Now I have OneNote 2007 running, but it has been prompting me to
download and reinstall WDS ever since. I am not certain how
negatively OneNote 2007 will be affected by the removal of WD Search.

Any information on this is greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

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Old 04-21-2007, 10:30 PM
Patrick Schmid [MVP]
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Re: OneNote 2007 Without Windows Desktop Search?

Searching still works, but it will simply take longer than with WDS
installed. There is a way to turn off the OneNote reminders as well. I
am not sure right now where that setting was and whether you could
switch it off in the UI, or whether you needed to set a registry key.

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"J-Mac" <jcmcgowan******.com> wrote in message
news:bgll23to0gmj1g7l5gcsfnmdah3u45jmet@4ax.com:

> I purchsed/installed OneNote 2007 last month and I really enjoy using
> it - very useful application.
>
> However I ran into some problems with Windows Desktop Search and
> finally had to uninstall it last night. I guess I'll find out soon
> enough, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me just how much of
> OneNote 2007's functionality is degraded by removing Windows Desktop
> Search and using OneNote 2007 without it?
>
> The reason I had to lose WDS is that it continually interferes with my
> ability to use Dragon NaturallySpeaking in Office applications. I use
> Dragon NaturallySpeaking rather than my keyboard as my input method
> due to a disability.
>
> The problem is that Windows Desktop Search is continually active
> in one way or another. Since installing WDS, Dragon
> NaturallySpeaking continually loses focus in Word 2003. Dictation can
> proceed, but neither my cursor nor any highlighting in Word 2003 and
> Outlook 2003 (using Word as an editor, as required by
> Dragon NS) are visible, making dictation extremely difficult.
> Pausing/suspending indexing in Desktop Search does not help, as the
> SearchIndexer process still runs and steals focus. Stopping the
> SearchIndexer process in the Windows Task Manager is unsuccessful
> because Windows Search runs as a service, so after ending the process
> the Search Indexer service is automatically restarted almost
> immediately.
>
> I manually stopped the service, thinking I would simply start it again
> later and let WDS index when I am not at the PC. But the service
> restarted automatically. Next I stopped the service again, and this
> time set the Recovery tab options from "Restart the service" after the
> first and second failures - the default setting is "Take No Action".
> Then I stopped the service manually again. Much to my surprise, the
> service still restarted in less than a minute. I then checked the
> dependencies for the Windows Search service, and found that it is
> controlled by Terminal Services>Remote Procedure Call. I can't stop
> those services without severe consequences - too many other
> applications and services would be affected. I don't know
> the consequences of breaking the dependency of the Windows Search
> service on the RPC service. I posted but received no responses in the
> Windows Desktop Search newsgroup, so I could find no other option and
> removed Windows Desktop Search from my PC altogether.
>
> Now I have OneNote 2007 running, but it has been prompting me to
> download and reinstall WDS ever since. I am not certain how
> negatively OneNote 2007 will be affected by the removal of WD Search.
>
> Any information on this is greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> J-Mac


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Old 04-22-2007, 02:45 AM
John Waller
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Re: OneNote 2007 Without Windows Desktop Search?

Have you tried configuring WDS to only search your OneNote files by manually
removing My Documents and Outlook from its search profile?

You could also specifically exclude My Documents in the WDS options.

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