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Old 01-28-2007, 04:45 PM
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Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?


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Old 01-28-2007, 05:00 PM
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Should be just fine.

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> Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
> andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
>
>



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Old 01-28-2007, 07:45 PM
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.

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reading.

After furious head scratching, b asked:

| Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
| andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
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Old 01-29-2007, 07:00 AM
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some things
in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or do I
have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I change
all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
>
> --Â
> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>
> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> reading.
>
> After furious head scratching, b asked:
>
> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
>

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Old 01-29-2007, 07:45 AM
Echo S
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be more
painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).

You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which is
free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications to
recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.

--
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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

"Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
>I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some things
> in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or do
> I
> have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
> change
> all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
>
> "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
>> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
>>
>> --
>> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>>
>> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
>> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
>> reading.
>>
>> After furious head scratching, b asked:
>>
>> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
>> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
>>



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Old 01-30-2007, 06:30 AM
Sairy
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to ask
them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.

Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?

Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features but
can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.

"Echo S" wrote:

> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be more
> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
>
> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which is
> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications to
> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
>
> --
> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
>
> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some things
> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or do
> > I
> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
> > change
> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
> >
> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
> >
> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
> >>
> >> --Â
> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> >>
> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> >> reading.
> >>
> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
> >>
> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be emailed
> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 01-31-2007, 06:45 AM
Echo S
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.

For example.

With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."

Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
team decided to do it this way.

I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.

Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
the capability.

I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
some light there.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

"Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E99FCCF5-D56E-4255-9595-A84F7A140825@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
> file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
> receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
> documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
> ask
> them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
> prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
> information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.
>
> Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
> preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
> Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?
>
> Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
> compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
> but
> can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.
>
> "Echo S" wrote:
>
>> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
>> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
>> more
>> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
>>
>> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
>> is
>> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
>> to
>> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
>>
>> --
>> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
>> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
>> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
>> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
>>
>> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
>> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
>> >things
>> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
>> > do
>> > I
>> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
>> > change
>> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
>> >
>> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
>> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>> >>
>> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
>> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
>> >> reading.
>> >>
>> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
>> >>
>> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
>> >> emailed
>> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



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Old 01-31-2007, 07:00 AM
Patrick Schmid [MVP]
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
with the PST just fine.

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"Echo S" <msnewsgroups@echosvoiceUGHSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:#jGOj6URHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.
>
> For example.
>
> With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
> soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
> supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
> those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
> you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
> you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."
>
> Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
> 97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
> versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
> uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
> Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
> than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
> team decided to do it this way.
>
> I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
> the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.
>
> Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
> problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
> creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
> as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
> applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
> the capability.
>
> I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
> you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
> some light there.
>
> --
> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
>
> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E99FCCF5-D56E-4255-9595-A84F7A140825@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
> > file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
> > receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
> > documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
> > ask
> > them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
> > prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
> > information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.
> >
> > Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
> > preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
> > Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?
> >
> > Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
> > compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
> > but
> > can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.
> >
> > "Echo S" wrote:
> >
> >> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
> >> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
> >> more
> >> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
> >>
> >> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
> >> is
> >> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
> >> to
> >> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> >> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> >> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
> >> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> >>
> >> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
> >> >things
> >> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
> >> > do
> >> > I
> >> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
> >> > change
> >> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
> >> >
> >> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
> >> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> >> >>
> >> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> >> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> >> >> reading.
> >> >>
> >> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
> >> >>
> >> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
> >> >> emailed
> >> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>


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Old 01-31-2007, 01:31 PM
Echo S
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Thanks, Patrick.

--
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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <pdschmid@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23jSUn$URHHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
> increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
> with the PST just fine.
>
> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
> ***
> Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> ***
> Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
> ***
> Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
>
> "Echo S" <msnewsgroups@echosvoiceUGHSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:#jGOj6URHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
>> Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.
>>
>> For example.
>>
>> With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
>> soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
>> supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
>> those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But
>> when
>> you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
>> you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."
>>
>> Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
>> 97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
>> versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
>> uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button
>> |
>> Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for
>> me
>> than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word
>> development
>> team decided to do it this way.
>>
>> I do believe the various application development teams really did try to
>> get
>> the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.
>>
>> Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't
>> be a
>> problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the
>> document
>> creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider
>> saving
>> as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
>> applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to
>> install
>> the capability.
>>
>> I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify
>> that
>> you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can
>> shed
>> some light there.
>>
>> --
>> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
>> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
>> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
>> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
>>
>> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E99FCCF5-D56E-4255-9595-A84F7A140825@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to
>> > the
>> > file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to
>> > notify
>> > receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am
>> > sending
>> > documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
>> > ask
>> > them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases
>> > are
>> > prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
>> > information...they might just decide they can use a different
>> > consultant.
>> >
>> > Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
>> > preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have
>> > my
>> > Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?
>> >
>> > Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
>> > compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the
>> > features
>> > but
>> > can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.
>> >
>> > "Echo S" wrote:
>> >
>> >> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format
>> >> so
>> >> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
>> >> more
>> >> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
>> >>
>> >> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack,
>> >> which
>> >> is
>> >> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP
>> >> applications
>> >> to
>> >> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
>> >> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
>> >> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
>> >> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
>> >>
>> >> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
>> >> >things
>> >> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format
>> >> > or
>> >> > do
>> >> > I
>> >> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can
>> >> > I
>> >> > change
>> >> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
>> >> >
>> >> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
>> >> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
>> >> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
>> >> >> without
>> >> >> reading.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
>> >> >> emailed
>> >> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>



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Old 01-31-2007, 04:03 PM
Sairy
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Thanks Echo. Looks like I may take 2007 out for a test drive. some of the
features are very attractive.

I convert to pdf a lot (I have Adobe) when I send 'stuff' to various
entities because I'm never sure of their capabilities but this may make it
easier.

Thanks for your help.


"Echo S" wrote:

> Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.
>
> For example.
>
> With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
> soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
> supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
> those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
> you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
> you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."
>
> Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
> 97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
> versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
> uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
> Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
> than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
> team decided to do it this way.
>
> I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
> the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.
>
> Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
> problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
> creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
> as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
> applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
> the capability.
>
> I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
> you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
> some light there.
>
> --
> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
>
> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E99FCCF5-D56E-4255-9595-A84F7A140825@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
> > file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
> > receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
> > documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
> > ask
> > them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
> > prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
> > information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.
> >
> > Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
> > preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
> > Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?
> >
> > Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
> > compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
> > but
> > can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.
> >
> > "Echo S" wrote:
> >
> >> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
> >> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
> >> more
> >> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
> >>
> >> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
> >> is
> >> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
> >> to
> >> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> >> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> >> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
> >> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> >>
> >> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
> >> >things
> >> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
> >> > do
> >> > I
> >> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
> >> > change
> >> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
> >> >
> >> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
> >> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
> >> >>
> >> >> --Â
> >> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> >> >>
> >> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> >> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> >> >> reading.
> >> >>
> >> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
> >> >>
> >> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
> >> >> emailed
> >> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 01-31-2007, 04:03 PM
Sairy
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Thanks Patrick.

I see that you are a OneNote MVP. I've been using OneNote since it came
out, even before I had a tablet pc. I love it. But I saw some disconcerting
things on the OneNote conversations re 2007 not being able to revert to 2003.
Any advice?

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

> Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
> increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
> with the PST just fine.
>
> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
> ***
> Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> ***
> Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
> ***
> Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
>
> "Echo S" <msnewsgroups@echosvoiceUGHSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:#jGOj6URHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
> > Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.
> >
> > For example.
> >
> > With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
> > soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
> > supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
> > those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
> > you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
> > you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."
> >
> > Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
> > 97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
> > versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
> > uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
> > Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
> > than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
> > team decided to do it this way.
> >
> > I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
> > the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.
> >
> > Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
> > problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
> > creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
> > as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
> > applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
> > the capability.
> >
> > I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
> > you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
> > some light there.
> >
> > --
> > Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> > What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> > Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> >
> > "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:E99FCCF5-D56E-4255-9595-A84F7A140825@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
> > > file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
> > > receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
> > > documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
> > > ask
> > > them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
> > > prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
> > > information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.
> > >
> > > Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
> > > preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
> > > Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?
> > >
> > > Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
> > > compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
> > > but
> > > can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.
> > >
> > > "Echo S" wrote:
> > >
> > >> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
> > >> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
> > >> more
> > >> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
> > >>
> > >> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
> > >> is
> > >> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
> > >> to
> > >> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> > >> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> > >> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
> > >> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> > >>
> > >> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
> > >> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
> > >> >things
> > >> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
> > >> > do
> > >> > I
> > >> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
> > >> > change
> > >> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
> > >> >
> > >> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
> > >> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --Â
> > >> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> > >> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> > >> >> reading.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
> > >> >> emailed
> > >> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

>
>

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Old 02-03-2007, 07:30 AM
Sairy
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Thanks Patrick.

I see that you are a OneNote MVP. I've been using OneNote since it came
out, even before I had a tablet pc. I love it. But I saw some disconcerting
things on the OneNote conversations re 2007 not being able to revert to 2003.
Any advice?


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

> Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
> increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
> with the PST just fine.
>
> Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> --------------
> http://pschmid.net
> ***
> Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> ***
> Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
> ***
> Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
>
> "Echo S" <msnewsgroups@echosvoiceUGHSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:#jGOj6URHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
> > Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.
> >
> > For example.
> >
> > With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
> > soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
> > supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
> > those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
> > you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
> > you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."
> >
> > Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
> > 97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
> > versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
> > uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
> > Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
> > than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
> > team decided to do it this way.
> >
> > I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
> > the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.
> >
> > Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
> > problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
> > creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
> > as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
> > applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
> > the capability.
> >
> > I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
> > you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
> > some light there.
> >
> > --
> > Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> > What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> > Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> >
> > "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:E99FCCF5-D56E-4255-9595-A84F7A140825@microsoft.com...
> > > Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
> > > file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
> > > receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
> > > documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
> > > ask
> > > them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
> > > prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
> > > information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.
> > >
> > > Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
> > > preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
> > > Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?
> > >
> > > Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
> > > compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
> > > but
> > > can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.
> > >
> > > "Echo S" wrote:
> > >
> > >> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
> > >> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
> > >> more
> > >> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
> > >>
> > >> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
> > >> is
> > >> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
> > >> to
> > >> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> > >> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> > >> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
> > >> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> > >>
> > >> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
> > >> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
> > >> >things
> > >> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
> > >> > do
> > >> > I
> > >> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
> > >> > change
> > >> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
> > >> >
> > >> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
> > >> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --Â
> > >> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> > >> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> > >> >> reading.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
> > >> >> emailed
> > >> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

>
>

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Old 02-03-2007, 08:15 AM
Patrick Schmid [MVP]
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Re: Office 2007 Backward Compatible

Yes, you cannot revert back. But that is really a non-issue. Once you
used 2007, you just don't want to go back to 2003.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A2C1C1DF-9648-456C-96C9-190E8609A81E@microsoft.com:

> Thanks Patrick.
>
> I see that you are a OneNote MVP. I've been using OneNote since it came
> out, even before I had a tablet pc. I love it. But I saw some disconcerting
> things on the OneNote conversations re 2007 not being able to revert to 2003.
> Any advice?
>
>
> "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Outlook 2007 adds some stuff to the PST related to indexing. It will
> > increase the size, you can't remove it, but 2003 will ignore it and work
> > with the PST just fine.
> >
> > Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
> > --------------
> > http://pschmid.net
> > ***
> > Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
> > ***
> > Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
> > RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
> > OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
> > ***
> > Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
> >
> > "Echo S" <msnewsgroups@echosvoiceUGHSPAM.com> wrote in message
> > news:#jGOj6URHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
> >
> > > Well, how painful Word's backsaving is depends on what your needs are.
> > >
> > > For example.
> > >
> > > With PowerPoint, if you insert something (maybe a new text effect like a
> > > soft drop shadow, maybe a SmartArt diagram, etc.) into 2007 that isn't
> > > supported in previous versions, when you save the file as 97-2003 format,
> > > those items become uneditable. They are just images on the slide. But when
> > > you reopen the file in PPT 2007, the items become editable again even if
> > > you're still in what is called "compatibility mode."
> > >
> > > Word is different. If you insert a SmartArt diagram and then backsave to
> > > 97-2003 format, the diagram becomes uneditable (a picture) in previous
> > > versions, and when you reopen that file in 2007, the SmartArt is still
> > > uneditable. However, all is not lost -- you can go to Office File Button |
> > > Convert to make everything editable again. It's just less convenient for me
> > > than it is in PowerPoint, but I know there are reasons the Word development
> > > team decided to do it this way.
> > >
> > > I do believe the various application development teams really did try to get
> > > the backwards compatibility stuff right for their primary users.
> > >
> > > Now, if your clients only need to read your information, this shouldn't be a
> > > problem -- and it's probably not as big a problem for even you, the document
> > > creator, as "painful" made it sound! You might also want to consider saving
> > > as PDF to send to your clients. That is a new feature in Office 2007
> > > applications, but it does require a free download from Microsoft to install
> > > the capability.
> > >
> > > I don't really know about the Outlook stuff, sorry. But if you clarify that
> > > you meant Outlook 2007 --> 2003 (not 2004), hopefully someone else can shed
> > > some light there.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> > > What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> > > Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> > >
> > > "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:E99FCCF5-D56E-4255-9595-A84F7A140825@microsoft.com...
> > > > Thanks Echo but what makes Word "more painful"? Are you referring to the
> > > > file size? If so, that is not a problem. It is not practical to notify
> > > > receivers of my emails to download the compatibility pack. I am sending
> > > > documents, etc. to business customers. It would not be good business to
> > > > ask
> > > > them to do something that they are not used to doing (or in some cases are
> > > > prevented from doing - downloading and installing) in order to read my
> > > > information...they might just decide they can use a different consultant.
> > > >
> > > > Do you know what happens to Outlook files? If I download and use the
> > > > preview version of Office 2007 will I be able to uninstall it and have my
> > > > Outlook revert to Outlook 2004?
> > > >
> > > > Lots of questions. I have to wonder if MS thought this backward
> > > > compatibility through before they foisted it on us. I like the features
> > > > but
> > > > can't afford to use it if it is going to cost me customers.
> > > >
> > > > "Echo S" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> In each program, you should be able to specify the default save format so
> > > >> that you automatically save as 97-2003 format. The backsaving will be
> > > >> more
> > > >> painful in some programs (Word) than others (PowerPoint).
> > > >>
> > > >> You can also ask the 2003 user to install the compatibility pack, which
> > > >> is
> > > >> free from microsoft.com. It allows Office 2003 and Office XP applications
> > > >> to
> > > >> recognize and open the new 2007 file formats.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
> > > >> What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
> > > >> Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
> > > >> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/
> > > >>
> > > >> "Sairy" <Sairy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:C7D799A2-F116-431B-ABDA-25E19CF3BD4C@microsoft.com...
> > > >> >I understand that the user does not have much ability to modify some
> > > >> >things
> > > >> > in Office 2007. Can I default the save format to the 97-2003 format or
> > > >> > do
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > have to perform that change each time I save a document? If so, can I
> > > >> > change
> > > >> > all saves (Word, Excel, OneNote, PPT, etc)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Only if the documents are saved in 97-2003 compatible format. The
> > > >> >> default 2007 format is not backwards compatible.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
> > > >> >> unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
> > > >> >> reading.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> After furious head scratching, b asked:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> | Can documents that are created in Office 2007 with Vista OS be
> > > >> >> emailed
> > > >> >> | andopened by a user who uses Office 2003 Windows XP?
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>

> >
> >


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