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Old 11-08-2009, 11:20 AM
Andrew Crawford
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Traffic Management

Hello All,

Due to my isp traffic shaping depending on how much i download, i started to
think would it be possible to monitor how much traffic there is going
through my Linux box?

If so how would i detect it?

Then how would i set up a script to basically to monitor and adjust my
available speed depending on a the variable that my isp sets on how much i
can upload or download during peak hours?


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Old 11-08-2009, 11:31 AM
Andrew Crawford
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Re: Traffic Management

I should have said the reason for the variable amount of data is my isp
changes the amount all the time and has different amount depending on the
time of day and whether it a weekend or weekday and for upload and download
"Andrew Crawford" <andrewcrawford@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:NSEJm.3109$Ym4.3024@text.news.virginmedia.com ...
> Hello All,
>
> Due to my isp traffic shaping depending on how much i download, i started
> to think would it be possible to monitor how much traffic there is going
> through my Linux box?
>
> If so how would i detect it?
>
> Then how would i set up a script to basically to monitor and adjust my
> available speed depending on a the variable that my isp sets on how much i
> can upload or download during peak hours?
>



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Old 11-08-2009, 12:10 PM
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Re: Traffic Management

Andrew Crawford wrote:

> I should have said the reason for the variable amount of data is my
> isp changes the amount all the time and has different amount depending
> on the time of day and whether it a weekend or weekday and for upload
> and download "Andrew Crawford" <andrewcrawford@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
> in message news:NSEJm.3109$Ym4.3024@text.news.virginmedia.com ...
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Due to my isp traffic shaping depending on how much i download, i
>> started to think would it be possible to monitor how much traffic
>> there is going through my Linux box?


I would change my ISP. Unfortunately more and more ISP are using
traffic shaping to compensate for basic lack of bandwidth and are using
it as a marketing tool to charge more money and generate higher
profits.

>> If so how would i detect it?
>>
>> Then how would i set up a script to basically to monitor and adjust
>> my available speed depending on a the variable that my isp sets on
>> how much i can upload or download during peak hours?
>>


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Old 11-08-2009, 12:20 PM
John Hasler
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Re: Traffic Management

Andrew Crawford writes:
> Then how would i set up a script to basically to monitor and adjust my
> available speed depending on a the variable that my isp sets on how
> much i can upload or download during peak hours?


By implementing traffic shaping on your own system, of course. Google
for "linux" AND "Traffic shaping".
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:31 PM
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Re: Traffic Management

Unfortnally not a choice, if i switch i go from a cable company with
guarantee 20MBit speeds apart from overload UBR's to ADSL 2+ with maximum
speed off 3MBit due to my distance form the local exchange and my local
exchange isn't due to be upgraded to ftth/fttc vdsl for about 3 years
"Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Andrew Crawford wrote:
>
>> I should have said the reason for the variable amount of data is my
>> isp changes the amount all the time and has different amount depending
>> on the time of day and whether it a weekend or weekday and for upload
>> and download "Andrew Crawford" <andrewcrawford@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
>> in message news:NSEJm.3109$Ym4.3024@text.news.virginmedia.com ...
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Due to my isp traffic shaping depending on how much i download, i
>>> started to think would it be possible to monitor how much traffic
>>> there is going through my Linux box?

>
> I would change my ISP. Unfortunately more and more ISP are using
> traffic shaping to compensate for basic lack of bandwidth and are using
> it as a marketing tool to charge more money and generate higher
> profits.
>
>>> If so how would i detect it?
>>>
>>> Then how would i set up a script to basically to monitor and adjust
>>> my available speed depending on a the variable that my isp sets on
>>> how much i can upload or download during peak hours?
>>>

>
> --
> Best Regards:
> Baron.



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Old 11-08-2009, 01:00 PM
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Re: Traffic Management

Andrew Crawford wrote:

> Unfortnally not a choice, if i switch i go from a cable company with
> guarantee 20MBit speeds apart from overload UBR's to ADSL 2+ with
> maximum speed off 3MBit due to my distance form the local exchange and
> my local exchange isn't due to be upgraded to ftth/fttc vdsl for about
> 3 years "Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:hd77p1$vh6$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Andrew Crawford wrote:


Yes cable, a least you get guaranteed speeds but with variable
bandwidth, which is more than I get where the speed just drops
depending upon how heavy the loading is.


>>> I should have said the reason for the variable amount of data is my
>>> isp changes the amount all the time and has different amount
>>> depending on the time of day and whether it a weekend or weekday and
>>> for upload and download "Andrew Crawford"
>>> <andrewcrawford@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:NSEJm.3109$Ym4.3024@text.news.virginmedia.com ...
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> Due to my isp traffic shaping depending on how much i download, i
>>>> started to think would it be possible to monitor how much traffic
>>>> there is going through my Linux box?

>>
>> I would change my ISP. Unfortunately more and more ISP are using
>> traffic shaping to compensate for basic lack of bandwidth and are
>> using it as a marketing tool to charge more money and generate higher
>> profits.
>>
>>>> If so how would i detect it?
>>>>
>>>> Then how would i set up a script to basically to monitor and adjust
>>>> my available speed depending on a the variable that my isp sets on
>>>> how much i can upload or download during peak hours?
>>>>

>>
>> --
>> Best Regards:
>> Baron.


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Old 11-08-2009, 10:50 PM
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Re: Traffic Management

Baron wrote:
> Andrew Crawford wrote:
>
>> Unfortnally not a choice, if i switch i go from a cable company with
>> guarantee 20MBit speeds apart from overload UBR's to ADSL 2+ with
>> maximum speed off 3MBit due to my distance form the local exchange and
>> my local exchange isn't due to be upgraded to ftth/fttc vdsl for about

>
> Yes cable, a least you get guaranteed speeds but with variable
> bandwidth, which is more than I get where the speed just drops
> depending upon how heavy the loading is.


Over here the cable has a max bandwidth which is shared by a hub of 50 users,
so the only time you can be sure to reach the maximum speed is when there
aren't more than 5 users at the same time using their cable connections, the
more users using the less max speed, of course they do not tell that in the
advertisement.

Andrew a small hint: Here we try to follow RFC 1855, which urge people to post
below the section you are replying to and remove parts of the text which are
irrelevant, so please not top or bottom replies, inline (you will see it's far
easier to follow a thread that way as you know what the person is replying to
and you don't have to do jeopardy reading).

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Old 11-09-2009, 04:10 AM
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J.O. Aho wrote:

> Baron wrote:
>> Andrew Crawford wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortnally not a choice, if i switch i go from a cable company with
>>> guarantee 20MBit speeds apart from overload UBR's to ADSL 2+ with
>>> maximum speed off 3MBit due to my distance form the local exchange
>>> and my local exchange isn't due to be upgraded to ftth/fttc vdsl for
>>> about

>>
>> Yes cable, a least you get guaranteed speeds but with variable
>> bandwidth, which is more than I get where the speed just drops
>> depending upon how heavy the loading is.

>
> Over here the cable has a max bandwidth which is shared by a hub of 50
> users, so the only time you can be sure to reach the maximum speed is
> when there aren't more than 5 users at the same time using their cable
> connections, the more users using the less max speed, of course they
> do not tell that in the advertisement.


Too true !
There is not a lot of cable in the UK, most of it is ADSL over pots.
ISP's have virtually stopped providing usenet access and are forcing
users to use webmail. In addition they are deliberately throttling
traffic speeds to encourage users to pay more in order to get higher
speeds. Indeed I know of at least one ISP that is blocking various web
sites, though they deny it !

> Andrew a small hint: Here we try to follow RFC 1855, which urge people
> to post below the section you are replying to and remove parts of the
> text which are irrelevant, so please not top or bottom replies, inline
> (you will see it's far easier to follow a thread that way as you know
> what the person is replying to and you don't have to do jeopardy
> reading).
>


Agreed ! Posts are so much easier to follow doing it that way.

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