Anybody know if it is possible (and if so how) to change the colors of the
panes (groups/body background color) in the Pan newsreader? I would like
to alter them to get something other than the stark white that is burning
my retina out like staring at the sun on July 4th. Any help appreciated.
;/ Beowulf

Beowulf wrote:

> Anybody know if it is possible (and if so how)
> to change the colors of the panes (groups/body
> background color) in the Pan newsreader? I would
> like to alter them to get something other than
> the stark white that is burning my retina out
> like staring at the sun on July 4th. Any help
> appreciated.
> ;/ Beowulf

I don't know. I have never tried Pan but it is
easy to do in Knode.

* Beowulf wrote in alt.os.linux:
> Anybody know if it is possible (and if so how) to change the colors of the
> panes (groups/body background color) in the Pan newsreader? I would like
> to alter them to get something other than the stark white that is burning
> my retina out like staring at the sun on July 4th. Any help appreciated.
> ;/ Beowulf

I was about to say no and thought I better jump over to google
first...

http://pan.rebelbase.com/oldnews/pan-themes.html

So, now I can say, soon ;)
--
David
"All language designers are arrogant. Goes with the territory..."
(By Larry Wall)

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:29:46 +0000, SINNER wrote:
> http://pan.rebelbase.com/oldnews/pan-themes.html

Nice. I did not know pan had themes/skins, I will be looking into this,
find some themes/skins for pan. Thank you.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:58:00 -0600, Beowulf wrote:

> Anybody know if it is possible (and if so how) to change the colors of the
> panes (groups/body background color) in the Pan newsreader? I would like
> to alter them to get something other than the stark white that is burning
> my retina out like staring at the sun on July 4th. Any help appreciated.
> ;/ Beowulf

If you are using Pan in KDE you can change the standard backround color
via the appearance->colors module in the KDE Control Center. I've just
tested this and I'm using Pan with the stark white now a "puke green".

You will also need to check the box for applying colors to non-KDE
applications at the bottom of the color selection page in the control
center.

This will of course also effect all other apps, but if white burns your
retinas in Pan, it probably does so in other applications as well.

HTH.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:33:46 -0600, Beowulf wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:29:46 +0000, SINNER wrote:
>> http://pan.rebelbase.com/oldnews/pan-themes.html

> Nice. I did not know pan had themes/skins, I will be looking into this,
> find some themes/skins for pan. Thank you.

I wouldn't hold your breath. That news item he quoted above is from May
22, 2000. That's right, nearly SEVEN YEARS ago. It's not gonna happen.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

* Dan C wrote in alt.os.linux:
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:33:46 -0600, Beowulf wrote:

>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:29:46 +0000, SINNER wrote:
>>> http://pan.rebelbase.com/oldnews/pan-themes.html

>> Nice. I did not know pan had themes/skins, I will be looking into this,
>> find some themes/skins for pan. Thank you.

> I wouldn't hold your breath. That news item he quoted above is from May
> 22, 2000. That's right, nearly SEVEN YEARS ago. It's not gonna happen.

While I agree it might feel that way now, Pan seemed stagnant for
some time and has suddenly gained some momentum, so I wouldn't count it
out just yet.

--
David
"On the Internet, no one knows you're using Windows NT"
(Submitted by Ramiro Estrugo, restrugo@fateware.com)

> ...I wouldn't count it out just yet.
> David

Either way, screw it... the Tin screen was easier to read.
LOL ;)

Alvin the old fart using Tin&Pico since the mid 90's in AZ
ps- Terminal Xfce
white on black backgound
green cursor block
Courier 10-pitch bold

In <pan.2007.02.01.22.58.00.974091@ancients.net>, on Thu, 01 Feb 2007
16:58:00 -0600, Beowulf wrote:
> Anybody know if it is possible (and if so how) to change the colors of the
> panes (groups/body background color) in the Pan newsreader?

Simple. Look at the menus.

> I would like
> to alter them to get something other than the stark white that is burning
> my retina out like staring at the sun on July 4th. Any help appreciated.
> ;/ Beowulf

In Pan 0.121 Dortmunder,
Edit -> Edit Preferences -> Colors

I'm pretty sure it was the same in 0.120 Pan of Shrimp,
as well as 0.119 whatever that was.

Since you're using such an outdated version, maybe it
didn't have this capability. I don't recall. Pan
obviously isn't my primary newsreader.

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:29:47 +0000, SINNER wrote:

>>> Nice. I did not know pan had themes/skins, I will be looking into this,
>>> find some themes/skins for pan. Thank you.

>> I wouldn't hold your breath. That news item he quoted above is from May
>> 22, 2000. That's right, nearly SEVEN YEARS ago. It's not gonna happen.

> While I agree it might feel that way now, Pan seemed stagnant for
> some time and has suddenly gained some momentum, so I wouldn't count it
> out just yet.

The "momentum" is not necessarily in the positive direction. The newer
versions are quite lacking in configuration options as compared to the
0.14.2.x versions. Supposedly faster and use less memory, but that
doesn't outweigh options and stability, in my book.

The last "good" version of Pan was 0.14.2.91, IMHO.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

* Dan C wrote in alt.os.linux:

> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:29:47 +0000, SINNER wrote:
>
>>>> Nice. I did not know pan had themes/skins, I will be looking into
>>>> this, find some themes/skins for pan. Thank you.
>
>>> I wouldn't hold your breath. That news item he quoted above is from
>>> May 22, 2000. That's right, nearly SEVEN YEARS ago. It's not gonna
>>> happen.
>
>> While I agree it might feel that way now, Pan seemed stagnant for
>> some time and has suddenly gained some momentum, so I wouldn't count
>> it out just yet.
>
> The "momentum" is not necessarily in the positive direction. The
> newer versions are quite lacking in configuration options as compared
> to the 0.14.2.x versions. Supposedly faster and use less memory, but
> that doesn't outweigh options and stability, in my book.
>
> The last "good" version of Pan was 0.14.2.91, IMHO.
>

I agree.

That said, it's a complete rewrite. I'd imagine the features will make it
back in, if not, you are right, its almost unuseable. I choose to
believe it will get there even thought I am usually NOT an optimist.

--
David

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:55:43 +0000, SINNER wrote:

> * Dan C wrote in alt.os.linux:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:29:47 +0000, SINNER wrote:
>>
>>>>> Nice. I did not know pan had themes/skins, I will be looking into
>>>>> this, find some themes/skins for pan. Thank you.
>>
>>>> I wouldn't hold your breath. That news item he quoted above is from
>>>> May 22, 2000. That's right, nearly SEVEN YEARS ago. It's not gonna
>>>> happen.
>>
>>> While I agree it might feel that way now, Pan seemed stagnant for
>>> some time and has suddenly gained some momentum, so I wouldn't count
>>> it out just yet.
>>
>> The "momentum" is not necessarily in the positive direction. The
>> newer versions are quite lacking in configuration options as compared
>> to the 0.14.2.x versions. Supposedly faster and use less memory, but
>> that doesn't outweigh options and stability, in my book.
>>
>> The last "good" version of Pan was 0.14.2.91, IMHO.
>>
>
> I agree.
>
> That said, it's a complete rewrite. I'd imagine the features will make it
> back in, if not, you are right, its almost unuseable. I choose to
> believe it will get there even thought I am usually NOT an optimist.

The entire 0.XXX series are beta releases (including 0.112 in
Mandriva 2007). They are still bugfixing and adding featrues to the
rewritten code. Only the old 0.14.2 is marked stable.



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Franklin wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:58:00 -0600, Beowulf wrote:
>
>> Anybody know if it is possible (and if so how) to change the colors of the
>> panes (groups/body background color) in the Pan newsreader? I would like
>> to alter them to get something other than the stark white that is burning
>> my retina out like staring at the sun on July 4th. Any help appreciated.
>> ;/ Beowulf
>
> If you are using Pan in KDE you can change the standard backround color
> via the appearance->colors module in the KDE Control Center. I've just
> tested this and I'm using Pan with the stark white now a "puke green".
>
> You will also need to check the box for applying colors to non-KDE
> applications at the bottom of the color selection page in the control
> center.
>
> This will of course also effect all other apps, but if white burns your
> retinas in Pan, it probably does so in other applications as well.
>
> HTH.
>

I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird for my newsreader, colours can be changed
here in Tools/Options/Display/Formatting

I am using a pale blue background, easier on the eyes than white

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:52:04 -0600, Dan C wrote this:

> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:29:47 +0000, SINNER wrote:
>
>>>> Nice. I did not know pan had themes/skins, I will be looking into
>>>> this, find some themes/skins for pan. Thank you.
>
>>> I wouldn't hold your breath. That news item he quoted above is from
>>> May 22, 2000. That's right, nearly SEVEN YEARS ago. It's not gonna
>>> happen.
>
>> While I agree it might feel that way now, Pan seemed stagnant for some
>> time and has suddenly gained some momentum, so I wouldn't count it out
>> just yet.
>
> The "momentum" is not necessarily in the positive direction. The newer
> versions are quite lacking in configuration options as compared to the
> 0.14.2.x versions. Supposedly faster and use less memory, but that
> doesn't outweigh options and stability, in my book.
>
> The last "good" version of Pan was 0.14.2.91, IMHO.

Yeah, been using the new version 0.120. It lacks the strong filter/rule
set of the 0.14.92 and the ability to separate newsservers but the memory
usage is much better.

For exampe, the new filters require lots of work and you can't use them
to simply delete records. I have to score those I want, hide those
scored then delete all articles not hidden.

The idea of consolidating servers sounds good but not so good when using
multiple servers and one of them has a download limit. Ie, Pan 0.120
doesn't care if you don't want to download articles from a particular
server or not.

Download speed is variable, sometimes it stops in the middle of download.
Still a better with the memory, 0.14.92 chokes about 200,000 article
headers but 0.120 goes to 800,000 before choking. If no other processes
are running maybe 2 mil. headers.

On 2007-02-03, noi wrote:
>> The last "good" version of Pan was 0.14.2.91, IMHO.

> Yeah, been using the new version 0.120. It lacks the strong filter/rule
> set of the 0.14.92 and the ability to separate newsservers but the memory
> usage is much better.

I don't much care about the memory usage, to be honest.

<snip>

> Download speed is variable, sometimes it stops in the middle of download.
> Still a better with the memory, 0.14.92 chokes about 200,000 article
> headers but 0.120 goes to 800,000 before choking. If no other processes
> are running maybe 2 mil. headers.

Don't care much about that aspect either, as I don't bother with binary
newsgroups.


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"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".