On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:53:38 +0100, Yrrah wrote:

>> Please do post the text from your OP that states you did an actual
>> install of the OS v running the LiveCD.

> ???
> Yrrah

You're even more stupid than most of the Win-trolls who come crawling
through here. Hard to believe, yes, but true.

If you don't like PCLinuxOS, then don't ****ing use it. Nobody here
cares. While you're at it, just **** right off and leave, doofus.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

John Hasler wrote:

> Christopher Hunter writes:
>> You probably won't have all the driver disks for your hardware. So
>> you'll be bitching and complaining to some Windows newsgroup about how
>> hard Windows is to install, and most of your hardware doesn't work
>> properly... Won't you?
>
> No. He'll blame Linux.

You're right - "Linux broke my computer". What an idiot!

Chris

Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid>:

> You're even more stupid than most of the Win-trolls who come crawling
> through here. Hard to believe, yes, but true.
>
> If you don't like PCLinuxOS, then don't ****ing use it. Nobody here
> cares. While you're at it, just **** right off and leave, doofus.

There you have it, the average Linux sectarian. With such mentality
among its advocates Linux will always remain something for weird
sectarians, which is a pity.

Yrrah

On 2007-01-18, Yrrah <Yrrah.YrrahYrrah.Yrrah********.com> wrote:
> Ivan Tisljar <_system_hlloyge******.co.uk>:
>
>> There is a problem here, and it is not Linux. It's you and your
>> unwillingness to learn something new and totally different. For people
>> like you, there is Microsoft.
>
> That's the typical reply of a sectarian who refuses to acknowledge
> there are weaknesses in his belief.

There's no weakness. The layout system in unix-type OSes is there to
reduce the chaos found on other systems.

Also, it is useful for things like mounting file systems over network or
from other drives/partitions.

Single tree hierarchy to rule them all :)

> Contrary to what some sectarian weirdos think I am an experienced PC
> user,

'nuff said. The lamest computer with cheapest parts running Dirty
Operating System (IIRC, the original name, but it also had a "Quick and"
prefix).

Could it be a coincidence that the most advanced computers on the face
of the planet ran (and still do) some sort of a unix-type operating system
while that puny IBM PC-compatible ran DOS/Windows?

I don't think so.

Let's face it, Windows still use the letter-mark drive designations - a
relic from over 30 years ago that never worked ok. Ever wondered if the
design is ok?
--
Najveca moc u fizici je moci staviti minus tamo gdje ti treba.

On 2007-01-18, Yrrah <Yrrah.YrrahYrrah.Yrrah********.com> wrote:
> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid>:
>
>> You're even more stupid than most of the Win-trolls who come crawling
>> through here. Hard to believe, yes, but true.
>>
>> If you don't like PCLinuxOS, then don't ****ing use it. Nobody here
>> cares. While you're at it, just **** right off and leave, doofus.
>
> There you have it, the average Linux sectarian. With such mentality
> among its advocates Linux will always remain something for weird
> sectarians, which is a pity.

Tipical troll.

Did you try to use the vast repository of knowledege available around to
find if the stuff you don't like could be "rectified"?

Different distributions exist because there are a lot of different kinds
of people. What's stopping you to create a distribution you'd like?

Oh, wait, it's because you're a troll. Otherwise you'd check out
gobolinux or LFS and tried to build a distro with your ideas implemented
in it.

Oh, well, not all people have IQ that's greater than their shoe size :)

--
Najveca moc u fizici je moci staviti minus tamo gdje ti treba.

* Yrrah wrote in alt.os.linux:
> SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.invalid>:

>> Please do post the text from your OP that states you did an actual
>> install of the OS v running the LiveCD.

> ???

> Yrrah

Which word are you having trouble with?

--
David
An Irishman is never at peace except when he's fighting.

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:40:44 +0100, Yrrah wrote:

>> You're even more stupid than most of the Win-trolls who come crawling
>> through here. Hard to believe, yes, but true.
>>
>> If you don't like PCLinuxOS, then don't ****ing use it. Nobody here
>> cares. While you're at it, just **** right off and leave, doofus.

> There you have it, the average Linux sectarian. With such mentality
> among its advocates Linux will always remain something for weird
> sectarians, which is a pity.

Did you learn the word 'sectarian' in school today, or what? The only
thing pitiful around here is the intelligence level (and inability to
solve simple problems) of the Win-troll sectarians. FOAD troll.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

"Yrrah" <Yrrah.YrrahYrrah.Yrrah********.com> wrote:
> It sucks! It's slow! It uses a lot of RAM!
> PCLinuxOS has two menu editors, its own and KDE's, and neither of them
> works properly, so I can't add items to the menu. Removed items keep
> coming back.

Are you running it from the live CD? Running an OS from a CD will be slow
and use a lot of RAM.


> Booting results in an ever increasing stream of error messages.
> Sound card is not recognized, neither are all resolutions and
> refreshment rates of the monitor.
> Installing applications is not half as easy as with Window$ and often
> there is no control over where they go.

Try Ubuntu:
http://www.ubuntu.com/

It's very easy to use, although you may have to spend some time adjusting to
new ways of doing things (often better ways of doing things).

> Installing other languages for the spell check failed.
> It comes with a lot of unwanted sofware which is installed
> automatically and has to be removed, but that applies to all
> disctributions afaik.

Try Ubuntu:
http://www.ubuntu.com/

> I've looked at other distributions too but they did not recognize my
> monitor or other hardware. The Ubuntu install window went right off
> the screen so I could not even install that distribution.

What kind of monitor is it, and what other hardware? Try
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and IRC channel #ubuntu. You can't get tech
support like that for Windows.

> As things stand now Linux is not a serious competitor. It's only for
> hobbyists who like to play with an OS,

Linux "Only for hobbyists"? Like Google, Amazon, IBM, NASA, all of the
fastest supercomputers in the world, many countries' governments, and most
Web sites...

> If the Linux community
> does not get their act together and develop a good and reliable Linux
> GUI and stop this distribution **** with dozens or hundreds
> automatically installed unwanted programs, Linux will remain something
> for the sectarians only.

It may be a case of PEBCAK. You are not giving it enough time. There are
different ways of doing things in Linux and it takes a while to learn them.
It's best to start with a dual-boot system and gradually work your way into
it. It's not for everyone though.

> I've given up on Linux for now, after having tried for a few weeks.
> Back to Window$ :-(

My condolences... :(
I'm often stuck in Windows lately so I feel your pain.

--
http://tips.webdesign10.com/general/ubuntu

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:35:41 -0500, 1100000 wrote:
...
> Linux "Only for hobbyists"? Like Google, Amazon, IBM, NASA, all of the
> fastest supercomputers in the world, many countries' governments, and most
> Web sites......

My recent favorite is when I learned that George Lucas' Industrial Light
and Magic (ILM) special effects studio recently switched to using Linux
for their renderings and compositing. They realized the power of linux.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6011
Star Wars II, Shrek, War of the Worlds, The Incredible Hulk, and other
movies we have all seen and loved have been done using linux
May the Force be with you all,
Beowulf

On Jan 18, 9:46 am, Mark Warner <mhwarner.inhibiti...@insightbb.com>
wrote:
> Ivan Tisljar wrote:
> > Yrrah wrote:
>
> >> I've given up on Linux for now, after having tried for a few weeks.
> >> Back to Window$ :-(
>
> > There is a problem here, and it is not Linux. It's you and your
> > unwillingness to learn something new and totally different. For people
> > like you, there is Microsoft.Take a look at the original post again. Whaddaya bet he's squawking
> about the Live CD, and hasn't even done an actual installation?
>
> --
> Mark Warner
> lose .inhibitions when replying


I am a Linux newbie and have had quite a different experience.
Personally, I have never had a real problem with Windows, other than
the system freezing up from time to time, but, out of curiousity
wanted to see what Linux was all about. About 1 month ago I installed
Suse 10.2 and ever since I have absolutely loved it. I love the alt-
tab function, 100 X's cooler than windows. I love the 3-d desktop, 101
x's cooler than Windows. But, as cool as those features are, those are
small by comparison. The real value, as I see it, of using Linux, is
that you come to learn so much more about what is really going on
behind the scenes. If you prefer that your computer operate like a
little magical box, then by all means, use MS. If, however, you really
want to learn about your computer and what is really going on behind
the scenes, then it's a no brainer, you would in all cases opt for
Linux over MS.

What am I doing with Linux right now? I am reading over all the
documentation, specifically about file systems to learn about the
different types that exist in Linux to determine what will be best or
result in the greatest productivity for me. I am also reading and
learning about how to do a remote deployment/install from a server,
just for the fun of it. By so doing, I a getting a valuable lesson in
general computer networking, and all for free. Eventually, I want to
set up my own web-server and host my own pages. Not only will I learn
a lot along the way, but I will gain a real sense of accomplishment
for so doing.

In my opinion, Linux is so much more versatile than is Windows. With a
free distro in hand, you have a desktop, a web/file server, a powerful
firewall, a business suite, etc, etc. Personally, I never really had a
problem with Windows, but even still, I like Linux 1000 X's more, for
all of the above stated reasons. If you want to learn about how your
computer and computing really work(s), it's a no brainer. Long Live
Linux!


Best,

Michael W.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:46:17 -0800, degarmo wrote:

<snip>

> In my opinion, Linux is so much more versatile than is Windows. With a
> free distro in hand, you have a desktop, a web/file server, a powerful
> firewall, a business suite, etc, etc. Personally, I never really had a
> problem with Windows, but even still, I like Linux 1000 X's more, for
> all of the above stated reasons. If you want to learn about how your
> computer and computing really work(s), it's a no brainer. Long Live
> Linux!

Right on.

> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1;

When do you expect to actually start using Linux?

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

On Jan 30, 2:48 pm, Dan C <youmustbejok...@lan.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:46:17 -0800, degarmo wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > In my opinion, Linux is so much more versatile than is Windows. With a
> > free distro in hand, you have a desktop, a web/file server, a powerful
> > firewall, a business suite, etc, etc. Personally, I never really had a
> > problem with Windows, but even still, I like Linux 1000 X's more, for
> > all of the above stated reasons. If you want to learn about how your
> > computer and computing really work(s), it's a no brainer. Long Live
> > Linux!
>
> Right on.
>
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1;
>
> When do you expect to actually start using Linux?
>
> --
> "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Ah, I installed 10.1 and then couldn't get a critical app to work, so
I had to reinstall windows for the sake of being able to use the app.
The app is trading software related to the markets, which is critical
for me to have access to.

I now realize that I can use the app with linux via wine, but I am now
waiting for my new comp of Linux Pro Mag. to come in the mail, because
it includes 10.2 on dvd, which I want to upgrade from.

Best,

Michael W

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:15:26 -0800, degarmo wrote:

>> When do you expect to actually start using Linux?

> Ah, I installed 10.1 and then couldn't get a critical app to work, so
> I had to reinstall windows for the sake of being able to use the app.
> The app is trading software related to the markets, which is critical
> for me to have access to.

You've not heard the term "dual boot", I take it?

> I now realize that I can use the app with linux via wine, but I am now
> waiting for my new comp of Linux Pro Mag. to come in the mail, because
> it includes 10.2 on dvd, which I want to upgrade from.

Nor apparently the term "broadband internet access". Pity.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Yrrah wrote:
> It sucks! It's slow! It uses a lot of RAM!
....
> I've given up on Linux for now, after having tried for a few weeks.
> Back to Window$ :-(
>
What do you expect from such statements?
Compassion? Poor you!
I could have been giving you some advice, but with your approach it is
unlikely to have any chance of success.

Laszlo.

Op Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:05:22 +0100, schreef Laszlo Lebrun:

> Yrrah wrote:
>> It sucks! It's slow! It uses a lot of RAM!
> ...
>> I've given up on Linux for now, after having tried for a few weeks.
>> Back to Window$ :-(
>>
> What do you expect from such statements?
> Compassion? Poor you!
> I could have been giving you some advice, but with your approach it is
> unlikely to have any chance of success.
>
> Laszlo.

Too bad you don't write what your problems are...
One thing: Linux doesn't use 'a lot of RAM'. It's just different and more
efficient than it's on Windows. On Windows most of the RAM is not used
most of the time. On Linux almost all RAM is used almost all of the time,
for example to catch data from disk. And when RAM is needed for something,
only than RAM is freed.
I I buy RAM personally I prefer it's been used :o)