All,

I'm a Kubuntu user and a bit later, I'd like to switch to
another Debian-based distro, one that's a bit more difficult
than Kubuntu but less than Debian for the non-expert that I
am. The fact is I want to slowly go to Debian... What's the
next distro I should use ?

Thanks,
Uncle Jean

Uncle Jean wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm a Kubuntu user and a bit later, I'd like to switch to
> another Debian-based distro, one that's a bit more difficult
> than Kubuntu but less than Debian for the non-expert that I
> am. The fact is I want to slowly go to Debian... What's the
> next distro I should use ?

I would say next step is Debian and after that Arch Linux, and after that
Linux From Scratch. Of course you can stop at any point.


--

//Aho

"J.O. Aho" told the uncle and all the others:

> I would say next step is Debian and after that Arch Linux,
> and after that Linux From Scratch. Of course you can stop at
> any point.
>
>
> --
>
> //Aho

I see. And what do you think of a distro like Adamantix ?

--
Uncle Jean

Uncle Jean wrote:
> I'm a Kubuntu user and a bit later, I'd like to switch to
> another Debian-based distro, one that's a bit more difficult
> than Kubuntu but less than Debian for the non-expert that I
> am.

Why? You can do everything with Ubuntu that you can do with Debian.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

Uncle Jean wrote:
> "J.O. Aho" told the uncle and all the others:
>
>> I would say next step is Debian and after that Arch Linux,
>> and after that Linux From Scratch. Of course you can stop at
>> any point.
>
> I see. And what do you think of a distro like Adamantix ?

It seems just to be like Trustix is for RedHat family, a security tightened
version of the original distro, if you really want to step up things I would
suggest Arch Linux, you get more out of it than switching from ubuntu to
debian or adamantix.

Arch Linux had been my own choice if it hadn't been a debian family distro


--

//Aho

"J.O. Aho" told the uncle and all the others:

> It seems just to be like Trustix is for RedHat family, a
> security tightened version of the original distro, if you
> really want to step up things I would suggest Arch Linux,
> you get more out of it than switching from ubuntu to debian
> or adamantix.
>
> Arch Linux had been my own choice if it hadn't been a debian
> family distro
>
>
> --
>
> //Aho

OK and I thank you, Aho.

--
Uncle Jean

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:06:26 -0500, Uncle Jean <a@b.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm a Kubuntu user and a bit later, I'd like to switch to
> another Debian-based distro, one that's a bit more difficult
> than Kubuntu but less than Debian for the non-expert that I
> am. The fact is I want to slowly go to Debian... What's the
> next distro I should use ?

Don't be scared of Debian. It's not as hard as people make it out to
be. As long as you understand how to partition and you are not scared
of ncurses install menus, you will not have a problem. I've heard tell
there is a new GUI installer but since I'm not a reinstall junkie I
haven't tried it out. Once Debian goes on, it stays on. My oldest
machine was installed in the late 90's and has gone through three
upgrades without a hitch and still serves me well.

If you are familiar with *buntu, you should have no problems.

Help is easy to find since Debian is one of the most well documented
distro's out there. There are several help sites devoted to Debian.

--
Topaz Crow
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"Topaz_Crow" told the uncle and all the others:

> Don't be scared of Debian. It's not as hard as people make
> it out to be. As long as you understand how to partition and
> you are not scared of ncurses install menus, you will not
> have a problem. I've heard tell there is a new GUI installer
> but since I'm not a reinstall junkie I haven't tried it out.
> Once Debian goes on, it stays on. My oldest machine was
> installed in the late 90's and has gone through three
> upgrades without a hitch and still serves me well.

Actually I'm not scared but here's what they wrote on
DistroWatch:

"On the other end of the spectrum, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware
and FreeBSD are more advanced distributions that require
plenty of learning before they can be used effectively."
<http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major>

> If you are familiar with *buntu, you should have no
> problems.
>
> Help is easy to find since Debian is one of the most well
> documented distro's out there. There are several help sites
> devoted to Debian.

Right, I've seen many.

> --
> Topaz Crow
> No replies by email, sorry.
> Reply to alt.anonymous.messages Subject: ATTN: Topaz Crow

I thank you, Topaz.

--
Uncle Jean

Uncle Jean writes:
> Actually I'm not scared but here's what they wrote on
> DistroWatch:

> "On the other end of the spectrum, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware and FreeBSD
> are more advanced distributions that require plenty of learning before
> they can be used effectively."

The fact that they are calling FreeBSD a Linux distribution should tell you
how seriously you should take their advice.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

* John Hasler wrote in alt.os.linux:
> Uncle Jean writes:
>> Actually I'm not scared but here's what they wrote on
>> DistroWatch:

>> "On the other end of the spectrum, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware and FreeBSD
>> are more advanced distributions that require plenty of learning before
>> they can be used effectively."

> The fact that they are calling FreeBSD a Linux distribution should tell you
> how seriously you should take their advice.

I dont see the word Linux up there. Does calling it a distribution
insinuate that it is?
--
David
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what
you don't like, and do what you'd rather not.
-- Mark Twain

> The fact that they are calling FreeBSD a Linux distribution should tell you
> how seriously you should take their advice.

SINNER writes:
> I dont see the word Linux up there. Does calling it a distribution
> insinuate that it is?

Yes.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:06:26 -0500, Uncle Jean wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm a Kubuntu user and a bit later, I'd like to switch to
> another Debian-based distro, one that's a bit more difficult
> than Kubuntu but less than Debian for the non-expert that I
> am. The fact is I want to slowly go to Debian... What's the
> next distro I should use ?
>
> Thanks,
> Uncle Jean

I'd recommend Debian. Download the DVD and install -it's not much more
'difficult' than ubuntu.

"SINNER" told the uncle and all the others:

> I dont see the word Linux up there. Does calling it a
> distribution insinuate that it is?
> --
> David

I see, guys, you're trying to convince me that Debian is not
complex. Well, it's not a complete success but
almost... :o)

--
Uncle Jean

"Uncle Jean" told the uncle and all the others:

> All,
>
> I'm a Kubuntu user and a bit later, I'd like to switch to
> another Debian-based distro, one that's a bit more difficult
> than Kubuntu but less than Debian for the non-expert that I
> am. The fact is I want to slowly go to Debian... What's
> the next distro I should use ?
>
> Thanks,
> Uncle Jean

I thank you all for your suggestions !

--
Uncle Jean

Uncle Jean wrote:

> All,
>
> I'm a Kubuntu user and a bit later, I'd like to switch to
> another Debian-based distro, one that's a bit more difficult
> than Kubuntu but less than Debian for the non-expert that I
> am. The fact is I want to slowly go to Debian... What's the
> next distro I should use ?
>
> Thanks,
> Uncle Jean

Are you able to do this without damaging your current system? I mean by
putting the new one onto a seperate drive.

What I tend to say to people, if you they are a little nervous of grup/lilo
is this.

Protect your current system by unplugging the drive. Then install what ever
new system you are trying on a seperate drive of it's own. Run a first boot
to make sure its ok. Then switch off and plug your other drive back in.

All BIOS's I have come across in recent years have given a fairly reasonable
boot menu. Ok, some give you 3 seconds to spot the menu and make a
selection before it boots the default, but you can always switch which is
the default at boot time if your bios is like that.

Or, if you bios isn't good with a boot menu, then all you need to do is take
the section that belongs to your new installation and add it as a section
in the default drive's grub/lilo menu.

As for the distro, I did do the Debian online install, it was very good
except that I was greedy and selected too many packages. So the install
took a long time. As it happened I had to do it again so I took the default
base system first then added the other parts afterwards. It was much nicer
that way.

But still, sending for a DVD would probably be the better way to do it, it
only costs a couple of dallas, hardly enough to pay the post and package.

For your own interest though. I tried an Elive Live linux this weekend, it
isn't one that I personally would install, but it was a very good
client/multi-media system. I tried the developer version which isn't very
informative if you do decide you want to install it, maybe the release
version is better that way, but you might like it. I liked the application
it loaded for the video cam and wrote a potential top ten hit in the drum
machine program.
http://www.elivecd.org