I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
Card. How linux friendly are these?

Cheers.

ChrisC wrote:
> I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
> know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
> printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
> Card. How linux friendly are these?
>
> Cheers.
>
There used to be a few Linux/Unix fax drivers that you could attach docs
to e-mails and send to fax patched e-mails..prepare yourself for Clunk
tho, because no one cares about faxes any more.

Send e-mails instead..and if you think that 'hard copy' means
something., just et a copy of photoshop and see how easy it is to forge
signatures, and alter documents that purport o be 'true faxed copies..

DAMHIKT ;-)

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> >
> There used to be a few Linux/Unix fax drivers that you could attach docs
> to e-mails and send to fax patched e-mails..prepare yourself for Clunk
> tho, because no one cares about faxes any more.
>
> Send e-mails instead..and if you think that 'hard copy' means
> something., just et a copy of photoshop and see how easy it is to forge
> signatures, and alter documents that purport o be 'true faxed copies..
>
> DAMHIKT ;-)

Yes well, I live in South Africa where faxes are still a highly used
thing. So your saying it's not possible? I'll be using Ubuntu, although
I doubt that makes any difference.

ChrisC wrote:

>
> Yes well, I live in South Africa where faxes are still a highly used
> thing. So your saying it's not possible? I'll be using Ubuntu, although
> I doubt that makes any difference.
>

Google for mgetty+sendfax. It's OK for me thought I never used with
OpenOffice. Works well with xsane.

Ciao
Giovanni
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Giovanni wrote:
> ChrisC wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes well, I live in South Africa where faxes are still a highly used
> > thing. So your saying it's not possible? I'll be using Ubuntu, although
> > I doubt that makes any difference.
> >
>
> Google for mgetty+sendfax. It's OK for me thought I never used with
> OpenOffice. Works well with xsane.
>
> Ciao
> Giovanni
> --
> A computer is like an air conditioner,
> it stops working when you open Windows.
> Registered Linux user #337974 < http://giovanni.homelinux.net/ >

So there no straight forward way aka windows? Thanks.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> ChrisC wrote:
>> I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
>> know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
>> printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
>> Card. How linux friendly are these?
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
> There used to be a few Linux/Unix fax drivers that you could attach docs
> to e-mails and send to fax patched e-mails..prepare yourself for Clunk
> tho, because no one cares about faxes any more.

I don't know about that. I've got a nice, working HylaFAX setup here
that wasn't too difficult to set up. No e-mail is involved. I simply
use the 'sendfax' command-line utility (there are GUI front-ends, too)
to send a file.

The OP could just print to a file from OpenOffice and then use sendfax
to send it.

It is also possible to configure OpenOffice to send faxes directly by
using the same setup tool used to configure printers. I've never tried
it myself, since few of my outgoing faxes originate in OpenOffice.

> Send e-mails instead..and if you think that 'hard copy' means
> something., just et a copy of photoshop and see how easy it is to forge
> signatures, and alter documents that purport o be 'true faxed copies..

Sometimes the fax is a legal requirement. The courts will recognize a
signed, faxed document as a binding contract. They won't (at least not
in my experience) recognize a scanned image of that same document. It
doesn't necessarily make sense, but that's the way it is....

On 23 Dec 2006 09:30:43 -0800, "ChrisC" <chrispche@googlemail.com>
wrote:

>I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
>know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
>printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
>Card. How linux friendly are these?
>
>Cheers.

I've not done this paticlar action myself - faxing from Linux - but
have struggled with modems in Linux - mainly for firewalll.
Q1. Is this an internal or external modem?
Q1a. If internal - there is a high probability of manual intervention
needed: see www.linmodems.org for struggling with 'winmodems' -
internal PCI card.

Q2. Have you tried the Ubuntu forums? It seems 'efax' and 'Hylafax'
'might ' be what you're looking for - again - I have not done this -
just perused the posts that came up after I searched for 'fax' on the
forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

I couldn't find anything for #g or HSDPA, but I suggest you have a
chat with the IT guys of your service provider.
This might also help: "This is a "howto" to get the 3G cards to work
under Linux."
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=21726

retief



Plse remove whatever is necessary to make
a sensible address

John-Paul Stewart wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> ChrisC wrote:
>>> I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
>>> know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
>>> printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
>>> Card. How linux friendly are these?
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>> There used to be a few Linux/Unix fax drivers that you could attach
>> docs to e-mails and send to fax patched e-mails..prepare yourself for
>> Clunk tho, because no one cares about faxes any more.
>
> I don't know about that. I've got a nice, working HylaFAX setup here
> that wasn't too difficult to set up. No e-mail is involved. I simply
> use the 'sendfax' command-line utility (there are GUI front-ends, too)
> to send a file.
>
> The OP could just print to a file from OpenOffice and then use sendfax
> to send it.
>
> It is also possible to configure OpenOffice to send faxes directly by
> using the same setup tool used to configure printers. I've never tried
> it myself, since few of my outgoing faxes originate in OpenOffice.
>
>> Send e-mails instead..and if you think that 'hard copy' means
>> something., just et a copy of photoshop and see how easy it is to
>> forge signatures, and alter documents that purport o be 'true faxed
>> copies..
>
> Sometimes the fax is a legal requirement. The courts will recognize a
> signed, faxed document as a binding contract. They won't (at least not
> in my experience) recognize a scanned image of that same document. It
> doesn't necessarily make sense, but that's the way it is....

How could they tell?

ChrisC wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> There used to be a few Linux/Unix fax drivers that you could attach docs
>> to e-mails and send to fax patched e-mails..prepare yourself for Clunk
>> tho, because no one cares about faxes any more.
>>
>> Send e-mails instead..and if you think that 'hard copy' means
>> something., just et a copy of photoshop and see how easy it is to forge
>> signatures, and alter documents that purport o be 'true faxed copies..
>>
>> DAMHIKT ;-)
>
> Yes well, I live in South Africa where faxes are still a highly used
> thing. So your saying it's not possible? I'll be using Ubuntu, although
> I doubt that makes any difference.
>
I am saying that it may be a matter of cobbling a lot of bits together,
rather than plug'n'play..

Say hello to the veldt for me..

Giovanni wrote:
> ChrisC wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes well, I live in South Africa where faxes are still a highly used
>> thing. So your saying it's not possible? I'll be using Ubuntu, although
>> I doubt that makes any difference.
>>
>
> Google for mgetty+sendfax. It's OK for me thought I never used with
> OpenOffice. Works well with xsane.
>
> Ciao
> Giovanni

Sendfax when I used it sort of worked...not sure about interfacing to
openoffice tho..

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:35:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> John-Paul Stewart wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> ChrisC wrote:
>>>> I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
>>>> know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
>>>> printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
>>>> Card. How linux friendly are these?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>> There used to be a few Linux/Unix fax drivers that you could attach
>>> docs to e-mails and send to fax patched e-mails..prepare yourself for
>>> Clunk tho, because no one cares about faxes any more.
>>
>> I don't know about that. I've got a nice, working HylaFAX setup here
>> that wasn't too difficult to set up. No e-mail is involved. I simply
>> use the 'sendfax' command-line utility (there are GUI front-ends, too)
>> to send a file.
>>
>> The OP could just print to a file from OpenOffice and then use sendfax
>> to send it.
>>
>> It is also possible to configure OpenOffice to send faxes directly by
>> using the same setup tool used to configure printers. I've never tried
>> it myself, since few of my outgoing faxes originate in OpenOffice.
>>
>>> Send e-mails instead..and if you think that 'hard copy' means
>>> something., just et a copy of photoshop and see how easy it is to
>>> forge signatures, and alter documents that purport o be 'true faxed
>>> copies..
>>
>> Sometimes the fax is a legal requirement. The courts will recognize a
>> signed, faxed document as a binding contract. They won't (at least not
>> in my experience) recognize a scanned image of that same document. It
>> doesn't necessarily make sense, but that's the way it is....
>
> How could they tell?

No one says they could tell - but that's what a lot of folks still require.

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:30:43 -0800, ChrisC wrote:

> I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
> know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
> printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
> Card. How linux friendly are these?
>
> Cheers.

Have you thought about using a FAX service? There are online FAX services
that allow you to send and receive FAXes via e-mail. Another solution is
an All in One printer/scanner/FAX. I have an HP 6110 which works fine with
Linux as a printer and a scanner, I haven't tried to FAX from my system
directly so I don't know if that works but I wouldn't be surprised if it
did. HP provides and excellent driver for their All in Ones so chances are
they have FAX support. But even if they don't you can still use the box as
a standalone FAX.

ChrisC wrote:

> I'm about to switch to Ubuntu, however there's one more thing I need to
> know. Can you send a FAX through the modem on OpenOffice? Setup like a
> printer in Windows. Also I might be getting a Laptop and a 3G HSDPA
> Card. How linux friendly are these?
>
> Cheers.

I have sent faxes from linux many times: I create the document in
OpenOffice, then print it to a postscript file and send that with efax
through an internal or external faxmodem. This works fine. I don't
fax often enough to get more elegant, but there's a kprintfax driver
that allows you to "print" directly from OO to the fax and no doubt
a gnome version as well. I have never faxed from windows, so can't
compare.

ray wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:35:36 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> John-Paul Stewart wrote:
......
>>> Sometimes the fax is a legal requirement. The courts will recognize a
>>> signed, faxed document as a binding contract. They won't (at least not
>>> in my experience) recognize a scanned image of that same document. It
>>> doesn't necessarily make sense, but that's the way it is....
>>
>> How could they tell?
>
Well, a scanned document sent via e-mail attachment, not the same delivery
channel as a direct dial-in fax.
Maybe they just require the senders phone/fax number as justification.

> No one says they could tell - but that's what a lot of folks still
> require.

A scanned (and edited) document then sent by fax would not be
distinguishable from a "raw fax" - while the same, as e-mail attachment,
may contain exif information or other magic strings from the picture
editing program. But not a originating phone number, just a e-mail addy
which can be spoofed too easily.
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