http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/gates.html

He even goes on to say he stopped using windows since the last 3 years !

/varghese

PS: Why do I smell a rat ?

Varghese Mathew wrote:
> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/gates.html
> He even goes on to say he stopped using windows since the last 3 years !
> PS: Why do I smell a rat ?

Is it a joke only? That website.... :)

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> He even goes on to say he stopped using windows since the last 3 years !
> PS: Why do I smell a rat ?

ON the other hand, Mr. Gates is basically a DOS guy.
And DOS got its ideas from Unix, I boldly claim...

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Varghese Mathew wrote:

> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/gates.html
>
> He even goes on to say he stopped using windows since the last 3 years
> !
>
> /varghese
>
> PS: Why do I smell a rat ?

The bit that goes "All opinions are my own......."

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Varghese Mathew wrote:
> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/gates.html
>
> He even goes on to say he stopped using windows since the last 3 years !
>
> /varghese
>
> PS: Why do I smell a rat ?
>

The site don't have serious news but jokes.
Mirosoft uses quite a lote BSD and Linux servers and is in the Seattle
are one of the largest employer of Unix administrators.

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//Aho

J.O. Aho wrote:

> Varghese Mathew wrote:
>> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/gates.html
>>
>> He even goes on to say he stopped using windows since the last 3
>> years !
>>
>> /varghese
>>
>> PS: Why do I smell a rat ?
>>
>
> The site don't have serious news but jokes.

Surely there must be some smoke in there ?

> Mirosoft uses quite a lote BSD and Linux servers and is in the Seattle
> area one of the largest employer of Unix administrators.

That I didn't know !

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Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard J.O. Aho typed:

>
> The site don't have serious news but jokes.
> Mirosoft uses quite a lote BSD and Linux servers and is in the Seattle
> are one of the largest employer of Unix administrators.

That's interesting. I'd like to employ that tidbit in debate. Can you
cite a source for use?

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Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man.
And immediately the cock crew. -- Matthew 26:74

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:54:51 +0800, Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) wrote:
>> He even goes on to say he stopped using windows since the last 3 years !
>> PS: Why do I smell a rat ?
>
> ON the other hand, Mr. Gates is basically a DOS guy.
> And DOS got its ideas from Unix, I boldly claim...

And, Mr Gates got DOS from someone else -- which was the beginning of
the m$ business model.

[Mai-wai: please fix your news client to include attribution.]

Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
> ON the other hand, Mr. Gates is basically a DOS guy. And DOS got its
> ideas from Unix, I boldly claim...

MSDOS got all its ideas (and some of its code) from CP/M, which got many of
its ideas from TOPS-10 and other DEC OS's.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux, in article
<87tzfhfvu8.fsf@thumper.dhh.gt.org>, John Hasler wrote:

>Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
>> ON the other hand, Mr. Gates is basically a DOS guy. And DOS got its
>> ideas from Unix, I boldly claim...

No

>MSDOS got all its ideas (and some of its code) from CP/M, which got many of
>its ideas from TOPS-10 and other DEC OS's.

Do you believe Eric S. Raymond and the Jargon file?

:MS-DOS: /M·S·dos/, n

[MicroSoft Disk Operating System] A {clone} of {CP/M} for the 8088
crufted together in 6 weeks by hacker Tim Paterson at Seattle
Computer Products, who called the original QDOS (Quick and Dirty
Operating System) and is said to have regretted it ever since.
Microsoft licensed QDOS in order to have something to demo for IBM on
time, and the rest is history. Numerous features, including vaguely
Unix-like but rather broken support for subdirectories, I/O
redirection, and pipelines, were hacked into Microsoft's 2.0 and
subsequent versions; as a result, there are two or more incompatible
versions of many system calls, and MS-DOS programmers can never agree
on basic things like what character to use as an option switch or
whether to be case-sensitive. The resulting appalling mess is now the

[snippity]

That definition continues for 21 lines, and the items for 'CP/M' and
'DEC' would be enlightening to some.

Old guy

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:51:44 -0500, Moe Trin wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux, in article
> <87tzfhfvu8.fsf@thumper.dhh.gt.org>, John Hasler wrote:
>
>>Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
>>> ON the other hand, Mr. Gates is basically a DOS guy. And DOS got its
>>> ideas from Unix, I boldly claim...
>
> No
>
>>MSDOS got all its ideas (and some of its code) from CP/M, which got many
>>of its ideas from TOPS-10 and other DEC OS's.
>
> Do you believe Eric S. Raymond and the Jargon file?
>
> :MS-DOS: /M·S·dos/, n
>
> [MicroSoft Disk Operating System] A {clone} of {CP/M} for the 8088
> crufted together in 6 weeks by hacker Tim Paterson at Seattle
> Computer Products, who called the original QDOS (Quick and Dirty
> Operating System) and is said to have regretted it ever since.
> Microsoft licensed QDOS in order to have something to demo for IBM on
> time, and the rest is history. Numerous features, including vaguely
> Unix-like but rather broken support for subdirectories, I/O
> redirection, and pipelines, were hacked into Microsoft's 2.0 and
> subsequent versions; as a result, there are two or more incompatible
> versions of many system calls, and MS-DOS programmers can never agree
> on basic things like what character to use as an option switch or
> whether to be case-sensitive. The resulting appalling mess is now the
>
> [snippity]
>
> That definition continues for 21 lines, and the items for 'CP/M' and
> 'DEC' would be enlightening to some.

Suggested reading for anyone who would like to know the truth, in great
detail, about the people and companies involved in the microcomputer
revolution (Microsoft, Apple, Sierra On-Line, The MIT electric train club,
etc...)

Including the origin story of the term "Hacker".

Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution
ISBN-10: 0141000511
http://www.amazon.com/Hackers-Comput...4424656&sr=1-1

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sk8r-365 wrote:
> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard J.O. Aho typed:
>
>> The site don't have serious news but jokes.
>> Mirosoft uses quite a lote BSD and Linux servers and is in the Seattle
>> are one of the largest employer of Unix administrators.
>
> That's interesting. I'd like to employ that tidbit in debate. Can you
> cite a source for use?

You can visit monster.com and look for computer related jobs in Seattle
area, at least during the time I was interested of working in/around
Seattle, I saw almost daily new openings at microsoft asking for
Linux/Unix admins.

Don't forget that micorosft has once in the time even had the founder of
Gentoo Linux as one of their employees.


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//Aho

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard J.O. Aho typed:
<snip>
>
> Don't forget that micorosft has once in the time even had the founder of
> Gentoo Linux as one of their employees.

Yeah, as a past user of Gentoo, and was at that time, it sure stuck in my
crawl.

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And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and
to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
-- Matthew 20:19

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:15:23 -0500, Ivan Marsh wrote:

> Suggested reading for anyone who would like to know the truth, in great
> detail, about the people and companies involved in the microcomputer
> revolution (Microsoft, Apple, Sierra On-Line, The MIT electric train
> club, etc...)
>
> Including the origin story of the term "Hacker".
>
> Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution ISBN-10: 0141000511
> http://www.amazon.com/Hackers-Comput...n-Steven-Levy/


Good book, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I recommend it as well. Levy's book
"Crypto" is also very good.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:07:35 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:

> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard J.O. Aho typed: <snip>
>>
>> Don't forget that micorosft has once in the time even had the founder
>> of Gentoo Linux as one of their employees.
>
> Yeah, as a past user of Gentoo, and was at that time, it sure stuck in
> my crawl.

Why is that, sk8r?

Rich