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06/24/2008: The Linux Foundation has issued a statement, directed at Nvidia, calling for open drivers.


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Re: Linux Foundation points finger at Nvidia (CNET)

On Jun 24, 1:06*am, ad...@ng2000.com wrote:
> http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=linux
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> 06/24/2008: The Linux Foundation has issued a statement, directed at Nvidia, calling for open drivers.


Dude, get xorg-xserver-utils. And compile your own...
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admin@ng2000.com wrote:
> http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=linux
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> 06/24/2008: The Linux Foundation has issued a statement, directed at Nvidia, calling for open drivers.
>
>


On this issue, I don't really care. My Nvidia GeForce 8500 card works
fine with the closed-source drivers, Nvidia are a proprietary-based
company, and I really don't see a drastic need to suddenly make all
their drivers open source, which may reveal trade secrets and such. No,
let Nvidia release their drivers how they like, we're pretty lucky
they're making good Linux drivers for their hardware as it is, anyway.
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Re: Linux Foundation points finger at Nvidia (CNET)

Ben wrote:

> On this issue, I don't really care. My Nvidia GeForce 8500 card works
> fine with the closed-source drivers, Nvidia are a proprietary-based
> company, and I really don't see a drastic need to suddenly make all
> their drivers open source, which may reveal trade secrets and such. No,
> let Nvidia release their drivers how they like, we're pretty lucky
> they're making good Linux drivers for their hardware as it is, anyway.


hopefully can your closed driver work with further relaeses of compiz,
fusion, distro, kernel, ..........
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:22 AM
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Re: Linux Foundation points finger at Nvidia (CNET)

EOS wrote:
> Ben wrote:
>
>> On this issue, I don't really care. My Nvidia GeForce 8500 card works
>> fine with the closed-source drivers, Nvidia are a proprietary-based
>> company, and I really don't see a drastic need to suddenly make all
>> their drivers open source, which may reveal trade secrets and such. No,
>> let Nvidia release their drivers how they like, we're pretty lucky
>> they're making good Linux drivers for their hardware as it is, anyway.

>
> hopefully can your closed driver work with further relaeses of compiz,
> fusion, distro, kernel, ..........


Every time I've seen a new release for the kernel pop up on Yum, so has
the new release for the Nvidia driver on Livna.

The only problem this could have argued to have caused so far was the
brief period where Fedora 9 was incompatible with the Nvidia drivers
because of the new version of X11 they were using, which was resolved
within about 2 weeks.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:22 AM
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Re: Linux Foundation points finger at Nvidia (CNET)

Ben wrote:
> admin@ng2000.com wrote:
>> http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=linux
>>
>> 06/24/2008: The Linux Foundation has issued a statement, directed at
>> Nvidia, calling for open drivers.
>>
>>

>
> On this issue, I don't really care. My Nvidia GeForce 8500 card works
> fine with the closed-source drivers, Nvidia are a proprietary-based
> company,


And I'm a primarily off-line non-proprietary-based buyer/user so
they'll have to decide if they will continue getting my money. My
GT6600 is here to stay for another 4 years but finding the correct
drivers under SuSE is already less than seamless.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:22 AM
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Ben wrote:
> EOS wrote:
>> Ben wrote:
>>
>>> On this issue, I don't really care. My Nvidia GeForce 8500 card works
>>> fine with the closed-source drivers, Nvidia are a proprietary-based
>>> company, and I really don't see a drastic need to suddenly make all
>>> their drivers open source, which may reveal trade secrets and such. No,
>>> let Nvidia release their drivers how they like, we're pretty lucky
>>> they're making good Linux drivers for their hardware as it is, anyway.

>>
>> hopefully can your closed driver work with further relaeses of compiz,
>> fusion, distro, kernel, ..........

>
> Every time I've seen a new release for the kernel pop up on Yum, so has
> the new release for the Nvidia driver on Livna.
>
> The only problem this could have argued to have caused so far was the
> brief period where Fedora 9 was incompatible with the Nvidia drivers
> because of the new version of X11 they were using, which was resolved
> within about 2 weeks.


If you want accelerated GLX to work in the future you're probably going
to find it won't. I had an older GeForce 2 card that worked fine, but
with recent kernel changes or something related to that, I couldn't get
it working after upgrading. Eventually the current Nvidia packages will
become legacy packages, and they don't maintain those as well (as I
found).

With Nvidia providing a tainted kernel driver they've made it so that
many users depend on them not being sold, staying in business, and so
on.

You could blame the kernel developers for not having any sort of stable
kernel API, or you could blame Nvidia. Nvidia doesn't seem to
understand they wouldn't need to maintain things as much and provide as
much support if they released the sources to their driver.


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