I have Ubuntu 7.10 on sda3, formerly on sda1. I would like to try out
suse 11, but don't want to screw up my existing setup. How do I put suse
on sda1 and have it leave sda3 alone? I haven't been able to figure it
out in suse's install routine. It seems to want to use the entire drive,
or more probably, I'm not following some instructions correctly.

Thanks

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:23:04 GMT, al wrote:
> I have Ubuntu 7.10 on sda3, formerly on sda1. I would like to try out
> suse 11, but don't want to screw up my existing setup. How do I put suse
> on sda1 and have it leave sda3 alone? I haven't been able to figure it
> out in suse's install routine. It seems to want to use the entire drive,
> or more probably, I'm not following some instructions correctly.

Anytime I want to play with another distribution, I create/format the
partition for the new / install. Then during new distribution install,
I click custom/manual during partition phase, click the newly
formatted partition, set mount point / and proceed with the install.

Having installed Suse 11.0 this morning, I can say that you click the
partition link on the install page and you will be sent to the
partition screen where you do your custom partition work/selection.

I recommend never sharing /home.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:40:42 +0000, Bit Twister wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:23:04 GMT, al wrote:
>> I have Ubuntu 7.10 on sda3, formerly on sda1. I would like to try out
>> suse 11, but don't want to screw up my existing setup. How do I put
>> suse on sda1 and have it leave sda3 alone? I haven't been able to
>> figure it out in suse's install routine. It seems to want to use the
>> entire drive, or more probably, I'm not following some instructions
>> correctly.
>
> Anytime I want to play with another distribution, I create/format the
> partition for the new / install. Then during new distribution install, I
> click custom/manual during partition phase, click the newly formatted
> partition, set mount point / and proceed with the install.
>
> Having installed Suse 11.0 this morning, I can say that you click the
> partition link on the install page and you will be sent to the partition
> screen where you do your custom partition work/selection.
>
> I recommend never sharing /home.

TO: OP

Also, when the SUSE install gets to the "where to install grub" part,
install it on the boot sector--not the MBR--of the partition where you
installed SUSE. (Otherwise, you'll hose Ubuntu's grub set up on the
MBR.) Then edit Ubuntu's grub.conf and add this stanza:

Title SUSE 11
root (hd0,0) # This is grub-speak for sda1
chainloader +1

This will load SUSE's grub and boot SUSE. Also, comment out--put # at
the beginning of the line--the "hiddenmenu" command, so you'll be
presented with the grub menu.

I used the above set up when I installed Fedora 9 Final to evaluate, so
it wouldn't conflict in any way with my primary, fully updated,
configured and rock-solid Fedora Core 6 install.

Stef

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard al typed:
<snip>
> I haven't been able to figure it out in suse's install routine. It
> seems to want to use the entire drive, or more probably, I'm not
> following some instructions correctly.

I don't use SUSE and others here who do have given good instructions.
That said, by your above remarks, I am wondering if you've provided
enough space for the install on the target drive. Have you?

--
sk8r-365
For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it
for my burial. -- Matthew 26:12

> Anytime I want to play with another distribution, I create/format the
> partition for the new / install. Then during new distribution install, I
> click custom/manual during partition phase, click the newly formatted
> partition, set mount point / and proceed with the install.
>
> Having installed Suse 11.0 this morning, I can say that you click the
> partition link on the install page and you will be sent to the partition
> screen where you do your custom partition work/selection.
>
> I recommend never sharing /home.

Ok, thanks for the info.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:19:33 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:

> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard al typed: <snip>
>> I haven't been able to figure it out in suse's install routine. It
>> seems to want to use the entire drive, or more probably, I'm not
>> following some instructions correctly.
>
> I don't use SUSE and others here who do have given good instructions.
> That said, by your above remarks, I am wondering if you've provided
> enough space for the install on the target drive. Have you?

It has 118gig on it. I managed to halve the drive when I installed
Ubuntu. When the updates screwed it up, I re-installed on the remaining
space. Then deleted everything that had been screwed up.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:23:04 +0000, al wrote:

> I have Ubuntu 7.10 on sda3, formerly on sda1. I would like to try out
> suse 11, but don't want to screw up my existing setup. How do I put suse
> on sda1 and have it leave sda3 alone? I haven't been able to figure it
> out in suse's install routine. It seems to want to use the entire drive,
> or more probably, I'm not following some instructions correctly.
>
> Thanks

Have you considered using VirtualBox and simply installing it there? Quite
easy to set up.

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:48:34 +0000, ray wrote:
>>
> Have you considered using VirtualBox and simply installing it there?
> Quite easy to set up.

Thanks for the heads up on it. I'll check it out.

Al

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard al typed:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:19:33 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:
>
>> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard al typed: <snip>
>>> I haven't been able to figure it out in suse's install routine. It
>>> seems to want to use the entire drive, or more probably, I'm not
>>> following some instructions correctly.
>>
>> I don't use SUSE and others here who do have given good instructions.
>> That said, by your above remarks, I am wondering if you've provided
>> enough space for the install on the target drive. Have you?
>
> It has 118gig on it. I managed to halve the drive when I installed
> Ubuntu. When the updates screwed it up, I re-installed on the remaining
> space. Then deleted everything that had been screwed up.

118GB is plenty for a standard install! Even half is.

Linux Minimum System Requirements

* Personal computer with an Intel Pentium III 500 MHz or higher
processor
* 256 MB physical RAM
* 800 MB available disk space
* 800x600 display resolution

Linux Recommended System Requirements

* 512 MB physical RAM
* 2.5 GB available disk space
* 1024x768 display resolution

Recommended Processors

* x86
* Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or higher
* AMD64
* Intel 64


That eliminates one concern, at least. I made that inquiry because
during my very early trials with Linux, RH5, I failed to provide enough
space for /. The install failed until I pulled my head from my
posterior :0

--
sk8r-365
And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.
-- Matthew 26:43

sk8r-365 wrote:
>
> 118GB is plenty for a standard install! Even half is.
>
> Linux Minimum System Requirements
>
> * Personal computer with an Intel Pentium III 500 MHz or higher
> processor
> * 256 MB physical RAM
> * 800 MB available disk space
> * 800x600 display resolution
>
> Linux Recommended System Requirements
>
> * 512 MB physical RAM
> * 2.5 GB available disk space
> * 1024x768 display resolution
>
> Recommended Processors
>
> * x86
> * Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or higher
> * AMD64
> * Intel 64
>
>
> That eliminates one concern, at least. I made that inquiry because
> during my very early trials with Linux, RH5, I failed to provide enough
> space for /. The install failed until I pulled my head from my
> posterior :0
>

Yeah, it's plenty. When I get to the expert partitioner page and unmark
sda3 to be formatted, I see no way to tell it to install on sda1 and
leave sda3 alone. Clicking the 'next' button gives a message about
installing on an unformatted partition. I haven't been able to install
yet, since I don't want to take the chance of wiping out Ubuntu. Since I
just want to play with some other distros and see how they work.

Al

sk8r-365 wrote:
> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard al typed:
>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:19:33 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:
>>
>>> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard al typed: <snip>
>>>> I haven't been able to figure it out in suse's install routine. It
>>>> seems to want to use the entire drive, or more probably, I'm not
>>>> following some instructions correctly.
>>> I don't use SUSE and others here who do have given good instructions.
>>> That said, by your above remarks, I am wondering if you've provided
>>> enough space for the install on the target drive. Have you?
>> It has 118gig on it. I managed to halve the drive when I installed
>> Ubuntu. When the updates screwed it up, I re-installed on the remaining
>> space. Then deleted everything that had been screwed up.
>
> 118GB is plenty for a standard install! Even half is.
>
> Linux Minimum System Requirements
>
> * Personal computer with an Intel Pentium III 500 MHz or higher
> processor
> * 256 MB physical RAM
> * 800 MB available disk space
> * 800x600 display resolution
>
> Linux Recommended System Requirements
>
> * 512 MB physical RAM
> * 2.5 GB available disk space
> * 1024x768 display resolution
>
> Recommended Processors
>
> * x86
> * Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or higher
> * AMD64
> * Intel 64
* PowerPC
* PowerPC 64
* Sparc
* Mips
* Alpha
* MC68K
* HP-PA
* ARM
and many more...



--

//Aho

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:34:48 -0400, al wrote:

> Yeah, it's plenty. When I get to the expert partitioner page and unmark
> sda3 to be formatted, I see no way to tell it to install on sda1 and
> leave sda3 alone.

The human mind reduces the problem to the most complex form.

You pick sda1, and set the mount point as /

Every install needs it's own /

You just pick the partition and set mount point / and proceed with the
install. Picking grub as your boot loader on every install makes it easy.

If you want access to the other installs, you dream up a mount point names.

For instance I might set /20081_64 for my Mandriva 2008.1 64 bit install,
/2008_0 for the mandriva 2008.0 install, /kubuntu, /ubuntu, /suse103, /suse110
for other installs.

Bit Twister wrote:
>
> The human mind reduces the problem to the most complex form.
>
> You pick sda1, and set the mount point as /
>
> Every install needs it's own /
>
> You just pick the partition and set mount point / and proceed with the
> install. Picking grub as your boot loader on every install makes it easy.
>
> If you want access to the other installs, you dream up a mount point names.
>
> For instance I might set /20081_64 for my Mandriva 2008.1 64 bit install,
> /2008_0 for the mandriva 2008.0 install, /kubuntu, /ubuntu, /suse103, /suse110
> for other installs.
>

That's what I needed to know, just didn't know what to ask at first.
Time to try it again. Thanks.

Ok, I've got SUSE installed now. Thanks again.

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard J.O. Aho typed:
> sk8r-365 wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> Recommended Processors
>>
>> * x86
>> * Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or higher
>> * AMD64
>> * Intel 64
> * PowerPC
> * PowerPC 64
> * Sparc
> * Mips
> * Alpha
> * MC68K
> * HP-PA
> * ARM
> and many more...

Should be good for others to know. Was the entire quote off their web
which I posted ... thanks.

--
sk8r-365
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before
my Father which is in heaven. -- Matthew 10:33