Hi, All -

I am currently in the process of setting up a Kubunto installation on my laptop. For various reasons, I need to set the locale on that machine to de_DE ISO_8859-1.

While I have managed to make the standard language German, it seems I cannot actually set the default encoding to ISO_8859-1.

This encoding is included in the list I obtain upon

locale -m

However, upon

locale -a

I only obtain a handful of UTF8-based locales. It appears there is no support for the desired encoding.

Any ideas on how I can change to that encoding?

Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for your comments.

Best regards -

Pat

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:27:56 +0000, pat_mc wrote:

> Hi, All -
>
> I am currently in the process of setting up a Kubunto installation on my
> laptop. For various reasons, I need to set the locale on that machine to
> de_DE ISO_8859-1.
>
> While I have managed to make the standard language German, it seems I
> cannot actually set the default encoding to ISO_8859-1.
>
> This encoding is included in the list I obtain upon locale -m
> However, upon
> locale -a
> I only obtain a handful of UTF8-based locales. It appears there is no
> support for the desired encoding.
>
> Any ideas on how I can change to that encoding?
>
> Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for your comments.
>
> Best regards -
>
> Pat

alt.os.linux.ubuntu

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard ray typed:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:27:56 +0000, pat_mc wrote:
>
>> Hi, All -
>>
>> I am currently in the process of setting up a Kubunto installation on my
>> laptop. For various reasons, I need to set the locale on that machine to
>> de_DE ISO_8859-1.
<snip>
>> I only obtain a handful of UTF8-based locales. It appears there is no
>> support for the desired encoding.
>>
>> Any ideas on how I can change to that encoding?
>>
<snip>
>
> alt.os.linux.ubuntu

Dude, that's cold. Funny but cold.

pat_mc, you may be needing to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'.
But first read about it and see if that is what you need:
man dpkg-reconfigure

To see your locales choices try:
apt-cache search <language of your choice> | less


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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:20:26 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:

> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard ray typed:
>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:27:56 +0000, pat_mc wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, All -
>>>
>>> I am currently in the process of setting up a Kubunto installation on
>>> my laptop. For various reasons, I need to set the locale on that
>>> machine to de_DE ISO_8859-1.
> <snip>
>>> I only obtain a handful of UTF8-based locales. It appears there is no
>>> support for the desired encoding.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on how I can change to that encoding?
>>>
> <snip>
>>
>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>
> Dude, that's cold. Funny but cold.
>
> pat_mc, you may be needing to do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'. But
> first read about it and see if that is what you need: man
> dpkg-reconfigure
>
> To see your locales choices try:
> apt-cache search <language of your choice> | less

Figured he'd stand a better chance of getting a definitive answer there
than here, that's all.

Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard ray typed:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:20:26 -0500, sk8r-365 wrote:
>
>> Feverishly pounding upon a keyboard ray typed:
>>>
>>> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
>>
>> Dude, that's cold. Funny but cold.
<snip>
>
> Figured he'd stand a better chance of getting a definitive answer there
> than here, that's all.

Oh, my bad. Misunderstood you ... text is good but it lacks vocal
intonation and facial gestures.

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Thanks for your reply, ray -

But sorry at the same time ... I don't get this. Any more verbose comments on this?

Thanks in advance -

Pat

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:27:56 +0000, pat_mc wrote:

> I am currently in the process of setting up a Kubunto installation on
> my laptop. For various reasons, I need to set the locale on that
> machine to de_DE ISO_8859-1.

I don't have Ubunto so this might be slightly different for you. The
advice here is based on full source-code packages and the stuff that comes
with them, not distribution packages.

This is handled by several things, the locales available on your system,
the LC_ALL/LANGUAGE envvars, support in-kernel, whether you are in console
or X11, and then using a fontset the supports it.


> While I have managed to make the standard language German, it seems I
> cannot actually set the default encoding to ISO_8859-1.

locale -a | grep de_DE
de_DE
de_DE@euro
de_DE.iso88591
de_DE.iso885915@euro
de_DE.utf8

Do you have these?

> This encoding is included in the list I obtain upon locale -m However,
> upon
> locale -a
> I only obtain a handful of UTF8-based locales. It appears there is no
> support for the desired encoding.

That's determined by glibc at install time, locales are made with localdef
(from the glibc-2.7 "INSTALL" file):

" The GNU C library comes with a locale database which gets configured
with `localedef'. For example, to set up a German locale with name
`de_DE', simply issue the command `localedef -i de_DE -f ISO-8859-1
de_DE'. To configure all locales that are supported by glibc, you can
issue from your build directory the command `make
localedata/install-locales'."

....and that's what I did, so likely I have all of them.


You do not want utf8? Maybe not, as X11 doesn't play nice all the time
with utf8 when it comes to some older apps. I had to ditch the idea after
alot of apps complained.

> Any ideas on how I can change to that encoding?

These commands assume you have full installs of the various packages
that make them up. If you end up with a screwy display, you probably
don't. Try, for console:

export LC_ALL=de_DE.iso88591
export LANGUAGE=de_DE
setfont drdos8x8.psfu -u def -m 8859-1

....and make sure keyboard is out of utf8 mode
kbd_mode -a
stty -iutf8


That gives me a nice small font in German ISO-8859-1 (you can check
charset with 'idn --debug', then hit CTRL-C. Here, in en_EN just because I
didn't actually set mine to German)

idn --debug
libidn 1.7
Copyright 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Simon Josefsson.
GNU Libidn comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
You may redistribute copies of GNU Libidn under the terms of
the GNU Lesser General Public License. For more information
about these matters, see the file named COPYING.LIB.
Charset `ISO-8859-1'. <--------------- Charset
Type each input string on a line by itself, terminated by a newline
character.


or utf8:


export LC_ALL=de_DE.utf8
export LANGUAGE=de_DE
setfont drdos8x8.psfu -u def -m 8859-1
kbd_mode -u
stty iutf8

You might need to restart GPM (I have a decent local version on my ftp
server at atr2.ath.cx) if you're using it. The commands need root privs,
mostly. Use setenv LC_ALL de_DE.utf8 for Csh/Tcsh shells instead. With
X11, you terminal needs to support the charset you want. Some have a
special switch. Other than that, it's done about the same way, through the
LC_ALL envvars and such. I've had mixed results in X; if someone knows
more/corrections, please post. Mrxvt might have a switch, I can't find it
right now. Involking uxterm (the real xterm with the menus at top)
complains loudly (why, I don't know, when I have about 10 billion fonts on
this machine)...

uxterm
Warning: Cannot convert string "left_arrow" to type Cursor
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
Warning: Cannot convert string "left_arrow" to type Cursor
Failed to open input method

....but eventually works. Option utf8 should be checked under menu "Unicode
Fonts".

idn --debug
libidn 1.7
Copyright 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Simon Josefsson.
GNU Libidn comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
You may redistribute copies of GNU Libidn under the terms of
the GNU Lesser General Public License. For more information
about these matters, see the file named COPYING.LIB.
Charset `UTF-8'.

ls /usr/doc/kbd-1.12/utf/
♪♬ ethiopic README utfdemo utflist

^^^ should look like two muscial notes as it does here. In fact, I had to
change the charset of this post before it would sent this, because of this
char.



If you have the docs from the kbd-1.12 package and are in proper UTF8
mode, the little file in the 'utf' directory should look like two music
note symbols and 'cat'ing the 'utfdemo' should show correct symbol-name
match-ups. Out of utf8, the little file will look screwy, and the utfdemo
won't look right either. You shouldn't have trouble with iso* under X11.
Makes me wonder what the Chinese use to enter all those little symbols.


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