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Old 06-17-2008, 01:00 PM
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apt-get upgrade vs. apt-get dist-upgrade confusion.

I am confused with the differences between "apt-get upgrade" and
"apt-get dist-upgrade" after an "apt-get update":


# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
esound-clients libccid pcscd perl-doc
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 8441kB of archives.
After this operation, 14.7MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

Isn't "dist-upgrade" not to show anything? dist-upgrade seems to
download from http://ftp.debian.org testing/main. I am confused on why
this is happening. Maybe I missed something.

Here's my custom sources.list:
# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# These are the official of the official debian repos..
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing-proposed-updates main non-free
contrib
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing-proposed-updates main
non-free contrib

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ proposed-updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ proposed-updates main non-free
contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

# Xine CSS plugins
deb http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/debian-unofficial/ ./
# VideoLAN DVD stuff
deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sid main


#Mencoder and stuff -- http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main

Thank you in advance. :)
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:20 PM
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Re: apt-get upgrade vs. apt-get dist-upgrade confusion.

'apt-get upgrade' upgrades all packages for which newer versions are
available and which can be upgraded without removing anything. 'apt-get
dist-upgrade' upgrades your installation from one release to another,
making whatever changes are necessary to permit all packages to be
upgraded, including removals.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:40 PM
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Re: apt-get upgrade vs. apt-get dist-upgrade confusion.

John Hasler wrote:
> 'apt-get upgrade' upgrades all packages for which newer versions are
> available and which can be upgraded without removing anything. 'apt-get
> dist-upgrade' upgrades your installation from one release to another,
> making whatever changes are necessary to permit all packages to be
> upgraded, including removals.

and apt-get update downloads the new LISTS of packages with new
dependcies so that when you do anything else, your own depencies won't
go looking for packages that no longer exist.

So. when you are tinking of dong anything, irst do
apt-get update

to synch your lists with what exists on the distro servers.

Then apt-get upgrade will install the latest versions of everything in
te current distro

and apt-get dist-upgrade will IIRC get you the latest kernel version.

This works for most people (apart from Jerry Stuckle).
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: apt-get upgrade vs. apt-get dist-upgrade confusion.

On 06/18/2008 02:47 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
>> 'apt-get upgrade' upgrades all packages for which newer versions are
>> available and which can be upgraded without removing anything. 'apt-get
>> dist-upgrade' upgrades your installation from one release to another,
>> making whatever changes are necessary to permit all packages to be
>> upgraded, including removals.

> and apt-get update downloads the new LISTS of packages with new
> dependcies so that when you do anything else, your own depencies won't
> go looking for packages that no longer exist.
>
> So. when you are tinking of dong anything, irst do
> apt-get update
>
> to synch your lists with what exists on the distro servers.
>
> Then apt-get upgrade will install the latest versions of everything in
> te current distro
>
> and apt-get dist-upgrade will IIRC get you the latest kernel version.
>
> This works for most people (apart from Jerry Stuckle).


man apt-get
....
upgrade
upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages
currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
/etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new
versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no
circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or
packages not already installed retrieved and installed. New
versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded
without changing the install status of another package will be
left at their current version. An update must be performed first
so that apt-get knows that new versions of packages are
available.
....
dist-upgrade
dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new
versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution
system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important
packages at the expense of less important ones if necessary. The
/etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations from
which to retrieve desired package files. See also
apt_preferences(5) for a mechanism for overriding the general
settings for individual packages.

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Re: apt-get upgrade vs. apt-get dist-upgrade confusion.

"man apt-get"
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:50 AM
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Re: apt-get upgrade vs. apt-get dist-upgrade confusion.

On 6/17/2008 5:35 PM PT, Cork Soaker typed:

> "man apt-get"


I did that, but was still confused. :(
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