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Old 06-08-2008, 11:40 PM
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Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders > Local
Network. And, I got....

"The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN
Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system
administrator."

Still can't browse XP shared folders.

WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will never
have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know that their
users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%# work out of the
box?

jim


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Old 06-09-2008, 03:50 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

jim wrote:

> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>
> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
> never
> have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know that
> their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%# work
> out of the box?


a) Google for your local Linux Users Group. Join its mailing list.

b) Google is your friend, in this instance,
http://www.google.co.uk/linux?hl=en&...G=Search&meta=
and for future problems with operating GNU/Linux
http://www.google.com/linux

c) Are you really sure that GNU/Linux is what you need? Perhaps you lack
the patience to learn the skill set needed to use it? Or it could be
that you are a troll.

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Old 06-09-2008, 04:50 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:

> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders > Local
> Network. And, I got....
>
> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN
> Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system
> administrator."
>
> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>
> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will never
> have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know that
> their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%# work out
> of the box?
>
> jim


try to put smb://
in the location bar and then ... press enter

and iirc when you start konqueror you get ... a splash screen
with home folder, network folders, applications,...
click network folders >> samba shares
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:50 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:02 +0000, goarilla wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>
>> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders > Local
>> Network. And, I got....
>>
>> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the
>> LAN Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the
>> system administrator."
>>
>> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>>
>> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
>> never have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know
>> that their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%#
>> work out of the box?
>>
>> jim

>
> try to put smb://
> in the location bar and then ... press enter
>

i mean smb:/
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Old 06-09-2008, 05:30 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?


"goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
news:484d16ef$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:02 +0000, goarilla wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>
>>> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders > Local
>>> Network. And, I got....
>>>
>>> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the
>>> LAN Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the
>>> system administrator."
>>>
>>> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>>>
>>> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
>>> never have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know
>>> that their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%#
>>> work out of the box?
>>>
>>> jim

>>
>> try to put smb://
>> in the location bar and then ... press enter
>>

> i mean smb:/


Yep. tried that too.... Still nothing.

I am really hoping that this 3 hour long OpenSuse install will talk to my XP
boxes "out of the box".

Supposedly that was one of their strong points for joingin forces with
Microsoft.

We'll see if the install ever completes.

jim


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Old 06-09-2008, 06:11 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

On 06/09/2008 02:19 PM, jim wrote:
> Yep. tried that too.... Still nothing.
>
> I am really hoping that this 3 hour long OpenSuse install will talk to my XP
> boxes "out of the box".
>
> Supposedly that was one of their strong points for joingin forces with
> Microsoft.
>
> We'll see if the install ever completes.
>
> jim


Try Linux Mint. One of the user-friendliest distros I've ever seen and I
went through all the popular ones. It's based on Ubuntu, it follows the
golden "one application per task" rule (although you can install
anything from the Ubuntu repos) and autoconfigured EVERYTHING on my PC
where many distros failed. NTFS partitions, shares, sound card - you
name it.

http://www.linuxmint.com/

Best regards,

Lim-Dul
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Old 06-09-2008, 06:20 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:

> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will never
> have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know that their
> users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%# work out of the
> box?



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Old 06-09-2008, 07:10 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

Em Segunda, 9 de Junho de 2008 07:20, jim escreveu:

> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders > Local
> Network. And, I got....
>
> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN
> Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system
> administrator."
>
> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>
> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will never
> have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know that their
> users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%# work out of the
> box?
>
> jim


WTF? Can your peace of **** XP browse to linux shares out of the box? Can
it?

God must like stupid people... why would he fill the world with it if he
doesn't?


if you can't use google, try smb4k


bye
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:20 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:19:01 -0400, jim wrote:

> "goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
> news:484d16ef$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:02 +0000, goarilla wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders >
>>>> Local Network. And, I got....
>>>>
>>>> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the
>>>> LAN Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the
>>>> system administrator."
>>>>
>>>> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>>>>
>>>> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
>>>> never have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know
>>>> that their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%#
>>>> work out of the box?
>>>>
>>>> jim
>>>
>>> try to put smb://
>>> in the location bar and then ... press enter
>>>

>> i mean smb:/

>
> Yep. tried that too.... Still nothing.
>
> I am really hoping that this 3 hour long OpenSuse install will talk to
> my XP boxes "out of the box".
>
> Supposedly that was one of their strong points for joingin forces with
> Microsoft.
>
> We'll see if the install ever completes.
>
> jim


is your network card working ?

also try the console programs:
smbtree, smbclient, nmblookup ...
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:30 AM
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?


"goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
news:484d5621$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:19:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>
>> "goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
>> news:484d16ef$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:02 +0000, goarilla wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders >
>>>>> Local Network. And, I got....
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the
>>>>> LAN Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the
>>>>> system administrator."
>>>>>
>>>>> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>>>>>
>>>>> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
>>>>> never have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know
>>>>> that their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%#
>>>>> work out of the box?
>>>>>
>>>>> jim
>>>>
>>>> try to put smb://
>>>> in the location bar and then ... press enter
>>>>
>>> i mean smb:/

>>
>> Yep. tried that too.... Still nothing.
>>
>> I am really hoping that this 3 hour long OpenSuse install will talk to
>> my XP boxes "out of the box".
>>
>> Supposedly that was one of their strong points for joingin forces with
>> Microsoft.
>>
>> We'll see if the install ever completes.
>>
>> jim

>
> is your network card working ?


yes. I can surf and email...I just can't see any of the XP Pcs on the
network.

>
> also try the console programs:
> smbtree, smbclient, nmblookup ...


I'll give those a shot - right after I get a little sleep......

Thanks!

jim


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Old 06-10-2008, 06:20 AM
Jim Dell
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Re: Who is Lisa and what is she doing to PCLinuxOS?

jim wrote:
> "goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
> news:484d5621$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:19:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>
>>> "goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
>>> news:484d16ef$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:02 +0000, goarilla wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders >
>>>>>> Local Network. And, I got....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the
>>>>>> LAN Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the
>>>>>> system administrator."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
>>>>>> never have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know
>>>>>> that their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%#
>>>>>> work out of the box?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jim
>>>>> try to put smb://
>>>>> in the location bar and then ... press enter
>>>>>
>>>> i mean smb:/
>>> Yep. tried that too.... Still nothing.
>>>
>>> I am really hoping that this 3 hour long OpenSuse install will talk to
>>> my XP boxes "out of the box".
>>>
>>> Supposedly that was one of their strong points for joingin forces with
>>> Microsoft.
>>>
>>> We'll see if the install ever completes.
>>>
>>> jim

>> is your network card working ?

>
> yes. I can surf and email...I just can't see any of the XP Pcs on the
> network.
>
>> also try the console programs:
>> smbtree, smbclient, nmblookup ...

>
> I'll give those a shot - right after I get a little sleep......
>
> Thanks!
>
> jim
>
>

Have you got the guest account enabled on the XP boxes? Also sharing
enabled?

Jim
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:10 PM
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"Jim Dell" <James.Dell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:oXu3k.11304$Ri.3189@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
> jim wrote:
>> "goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
>> news:484d5621$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:19:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>
>>>> "goarilla" <kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
>>>> news:484d16ef$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:02 +0000, goarilla wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders >
>>>>>>> Local Network. And, I got....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the
>>>>>>> LAN Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the
>>>>>>> system administrator."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
>>>>>>> never have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> that their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%#
>>>>>>> work out of the box?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jim
>>>>>> try to put smb://
>>>>>> in the location bar and then ... press enter
>>>>>>
>>>>> i mean smb:/
>>>> Yep. tried that too.... Still nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I am really hoping that this 3 hour long OpenSuse install will talk to
>>>> my XP boxes "out of the box".
>>>>
>>>> Supposedly that was one of their strong points for joingin forces with
>>>> Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> We'll see if the install ever completes.
>>>>
>>>> jim
>>> is your network card working ?

>>
>> yes. I can surf and email...I just can't see any of the XP Pcs on the
>> network.
>>
>>> also try the console programs:
>>> smbtree, smbclient, nmblookup ...

>>
>> I'll give those a shot - right after I get a little sleep......
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> jim

> Have you got the guest account enabled on the XP boxes? Also sharing
> enabled?
>
> Jim


yes

jim


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Old 06-10-2008, 11:30 PM
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jim wrote:
> "Jim Dell"<James.Dell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:oXu3k.11304$Ri.3189@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> jim wrote:
>>> "goarilla"<kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
>>> news:484d5621$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:19:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "goarilla"<kevin.paulus@skynet.remove-this.be> wrote in message
>>>>> news:484d16ef$0$2794$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:38:02 +0000, goarilla wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, jim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go> Network Folders>
>>>>>>>> Local Network. And, I got....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the
>>>>>>>> LAN Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the
>>>>>>>> system administrator."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will
>>>>>>>> never have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> that their users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%#
>>>>>>>> work out of the box?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jim
>>>>>>> try to put smb://
>>>>>>> in the location bar and then ... press enter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> i mean smb:/
>>>>> Yep. tried that too.... Still nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am really hoping that this 3 hour long OpenSuse install will talk to
>>>>> my XP boxes "out of the box".
>>>>>
>>>>> Supposedly that was one of their strong points for joingin forces with
>>>>> Microsoft.
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll see if the install ever completes.
>>>>>
>>>>> jim
>>>> is your network card working ?
>>> yes. I can surf and email...I just can't see any of the XP Pcs on the
>>> network.
>>>
>>>> also try the console programs:
>>>> smbtree, smbclient, nmblookup ...
>>> I'll give those a shot - right after I get a little sleep......
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> jim

>> Have you got the guest account enabled on the XP boxes? Also sharing
>> enabled?
>>
>> Jim

>
> yes
>
> jim
>
>


You can configure LISa from the KDE Control Center, keep your root
password ready.

Michel
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:20:01 -0400, "jim" <jim@home.net> wrote:

>I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders > Local
>Network. And, I got....
>
>"The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN
>Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system
>administrator."
>
>Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>
>WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will never
>have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know that their
>users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%# work out of the
>box?


Now I almost feel bad that I spent my own time to google an answer for your
problem and point out that it's not hard. You have spent who knows how many
dozens, propably hundreds times of time that it took from me installing
different distros and whining about it not working out of the box! Even in
windows you will have to do certain steps to get it work - and yes, I know,
have done it on 95, 98, ME and XP. Those steps have no big difference BUT if
you insist I'd say that in case of Ubuntu the more difficult is windows (and
ubuntu also installs by default with firewall that you can at least take
seriously).

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Old 06-18-2008, 07:50 PM
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In comp.os.linux jim <jim@home.net> wrote:
> I loaded PCLinuxOS 2007, opened Konquerer, Go > Network Folders > Local
> Network. And, I got....
>
> "The Lisa daemon does not appear to be running. In order to use the LAN
> Browser the Lisa daemon must be installed and activated by the system
> administrator."
>
> Still can't browse XP shared folders.
>
> WTF? Do Linux distro people REALLY believe that a Linux user will never
> have to browse folders on a Windows network? And, if they know that their
> users will probably have to do so, why doesn't this #@%# work out of the
> box?
>
> jim
>
>


Jim

Preach on... yes, you are correct; but I find the other way around
annoying too -- Windows XP can't use NIS and NFS "out of the box".
Worse, compatibility is not built in at all.

This, of course, forces me to use SAMBA, but I use it from a server
perspective, not a client. Still, the SMB (or CIFS, what the **** is it
now?) client browsing is annoying. But the lack of NFS v *anything*
(2,3,4) support in XP is UTTERLY INEXCUSABLE.

After all, it is a standard supported by every other major OS: HP, IBM,
SUN, Linux.

XP doesn't even seem to support automounter maps! Either from NIS or
LDAP! I am not a Windows guy; how am I to incorporate XP into the
network?

But, Linux (most varieties) browsing XP SMB shares isn't pretty (it
can be done, but it seems painful).

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