On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:47:05 +0000, ChinaTrader wrote:

>
> Just tried the new Knoppix 5.3.1 and find it really cool. But it is
> unable to read my SATA hard drives on either my Dell laptop or my
> desktop running XP Pro Sp2. The drive properties show the disks as
> mountable and the show up as hda and hdb but do NOT appear on the
> Knoppix desktop. The drives appear as the Windows drive volume names in
> the file explorer in Knoppix as Drive_C and Drive_D. But when I try to
> access them I get the following error:
>
> "A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this
> message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file {rejected
> message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount
> error name "(unset") destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") X
> Error:BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)}
> Major opcode: 19
> Minor opcode: 0
> Resource id: 0x2600006"
>
> Now sadly that does not mean a lot to me at all. However, BartPE can
> read the disk and their contents just fine so the is most likely some
> geeky code I need to feed to Knoppix to get it to read the drives. Any
> Linux/Knoppix boffins out there who can share their genius with me
> please? I would be most appreciative of any help. Thanks in advance!

Is the Fuse kernel module being loaded?

lsmod |grep fuse

"

Thanks for the reply Meat PLow,
I ran the command under Knoppix but it told me it did not recognise the lsmod command! I have no idea what that command is or what it is supposedf to do, but I did a search for Fuse and came up with zero. The CD is a bog standard ISO image downloaded off the official Knoppix site so everything should already be on it that it needs.

Knoppix can read a NTFS external drive via USB, although I also got the gibberish warning again but when I clicked OK it accessed the disk and could read my files.

The SATA hard drives only seem to show up by their volume names in device Manager and if I Browse for files and look in the media directory. But I still cannot access them. The SATA drives appear during the Knoppix boot sequence. I get the impression that the drives are not mounting correctly. I have only a very basic grasp of all things Linux and have done some work in a programming environment on Unix machines, but the idea of Knoppix was supposed to be that I don't need to memorise all the obscure command line routines. The SATA drives should be accessible through the GUI interface. There is obviously an error in the hard drive configuration somewhere. That's my guess anyway.

I have attached a few screenshot - I apologise for the quality.

Hope someone out there can shed some light on this.

Thanks.

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if you can show us your fstab table there might be more help

mine looks like this:

/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3320620AS_5QF3NX8A-part9 /
ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3320620AS_5QF3NX8A-part10 /local
ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3320620AS_5QF3NX8A-part1 /windows/C
ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_GB.U TF-8 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3320620AS_5QF3NX8A-part5 /windows/D
vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3320620AS_5QF3NX8A-part6 /windows/E
vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3320620AS_5QF3NX8A-part7 /windows/F
vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_ST3320620AS_5QF3NX8A-part8 swap
swap defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0
0
sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0
0
debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0
0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0
0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0
0

hope this helps

Dear darklight,

Thanks for the reply. I didn't even know I had an fstab table! How to I get this table data. Sorry I am not a Linux fundi so I don't know these strange commands.

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:02:46 +0000, ChinaTrader wrote:

> Meat Plow;1040477 Wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:47:05 +0000, ChinaTrader wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Just tried the new Knoppix 5.3.1 and find it really cool. But it is
>> > unable to read my SATA hard drives on either my Dell laptop or my
>> > desktop running XP Pro Sp2. The drive properties show the disks as
>> > mountable and the show up as hda and hdb but do NOT appear on the
>> > Knoppix desktop. The drives appear as the Windows drive volume names
>> in
>> > the file explorer in Knoppix as Drive_C and Drive_D. But when I try
>> to
>> > access them I get the following error:
>> >
>> > "A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this
>> > message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file
>> {rejected
>> > message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member
>> "Mount
>> > error name "(unset") destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") X
>> > Error:BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)}
>> > Major opcode: 19
>> > Minor opcode: 0
>> > Resource id: 0x2600006"
>> >
>> > Now sadly that does not mean a lot to me at all. However, BartPE can
>> > read the disk and their contents just fine so the is most likely some
>> > geeky code I need to feed to Knoppix to get it to read the drives.
>> Any
>> > Linux/Knoppix boffins out there who can share their genius with me
>> > please? I would be most appreciative of any help. Thanks in advance!
>>
>> "Is the Fuse kernel module being loaded?
>>
>> lsmod |grep fuse"
>
> Thanks for the reply Meat PLow,
> I ran the command under Knoppix but it told me it did not recognise the
> lsmod command! I have no idea what that command is or what it is
> supposedf to do, but I did a search for Fuse and came up with zero. The
> CD is a bog standard ISO image downloaded off the official Knoppix site
> so everything should already be on it that it needs.

lsmod lists kernel modules being loaded. The |grep filters the list for
those containing fuse only. I don't know much about Knoppix admittedly but
Fuse (Filesystem in USErspace) is the kernel driver for NTFS. Depends on
fuse-utils, lib2fuse, libntfs-3g23 and the ntfs-3g read/write driver in
Debian based Ubuntu and probably other flavors.

Maybe you have to be a super-user to use lsmod? Don't know why but give it
a try.

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:02:46 +0000, ChinaTrader wrote:

> Meat Plow;1040477 Wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:47:05 +0000, ChinaTrader wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Just tried the new Knoppix 5.3.1 and find it really cool. But it is
>> > unable to read my SATA hard drives on either my Dell laptop or my
>> > desktop running XP Pro Sp2. The drive properties show the disks as
>> > mountable and the show up as hda and hdb but do NOT appear on the
>> > Knoppix desktop. The drives appear as the Windows drive volume names
>> in
>> > the file explorer in Knoppix as Drive_C and Drive_D. But when I try
>> to
>> > access them I get the following error:
>> >
>> > "A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this
>> > message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file
>> {rejected
>> > message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member
>> "Mount
>> > error name "(unset") destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") X
>> > Error:BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)} Major opcode: 19
>> > Minor opcode: 0
>> > Resource id: 0x2600006"
>> >
>> > Now sadly that does not mean a lot to me at all. However, BartPE can
>> > read the disk and their contents just fine so the is most likely some
>> > geeky code I need to feed to Knoppix to get it to read the drives.
>> Any
>> > Linux/Knoppix boffins out there who can share their genius with me
>> > please? I would be most appreciative of any help. Thanks in advance!
>>
>> "Is the Fuse kernel module being loaded?
>>
>> lsmod |grep fuse"
>
> Thanks for the reply Meat PLow,
> I ran the command under Knoppix but it told me it did not recognise the
> lsmod command! I have no idea what that command is or what it is
> supposedf to do, but I did a search for Fuse and came up with zero. The
> CD is a bog standard ISO image downloaded off the official Knoppix site
> so everything should already be on it that it needs.

Try

/sbin/lsmod | grep fuse

lsmod is usually in the /sbin directory, which is not usually in the
normal users' PATH, so you have to tell your shell specifically where to
look for it.

Stef

Stefan Patric <not@thisaddress.com> writes:

>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:02:46 +0000, ChinaTrader wrote:

>> Meat Plow;1040477 Wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:47:05 +0000, ChinaTrader wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > Just tried the new Knoppix 5.3.1 and find it really cool. But it is
>>> > unable to read my SATA hard drives on either my Dell laptop or my
>>> > desktop running XP Pro Sp2. The drive properties show the disks as
>>> > mountable and the show up as hda and hdb but do NOT appear on the
>>> > Knoppix desktop. The drives appear as the Windows drive volume names
>>> in
>>> > the file explorer in Knoppix as Drive_C and Drive_D. But when I try
>>> to
>>> > access them I get the following error:
>>> >
>>> > "A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this
>>> > message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file
>>> {rejected
>>> > message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member
>>> "Mount
>>> > error name "(unset") destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") X
>>> > Error:BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)} Major opcode: 19
>>> > Minor opcode: 0
>>> > Resource id: 0x2600006"
>>> >
>>> > Now sadly that does not mean a lot to me at all. However, BartPE can
>>> > read the disk and their contents just fine so the is most likely some
>>> > geeky code I need to feed to Knoppix to get it to read the drives.
>>> Any
>>> > Linux/Knoppix boffins out there who can share their genius with me
>>> > please? I would be most appreciative of any help. Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> "Is the Fuse kernel module being loaded?
>>>
>>> lsmod |grep fuse"
>>
>> Thanks for the reply Meat PLow,
>> I ran the command under Knoppix but it told me it did not recognise the
>> lsmod command! I have no idea what that command is or what it is


Run it as root.


>> supposedf to do, but I did a search for Fuse and came up with zero. The

It lists all of the modules which are loaded. The grep then asks if fuse is
amongst that list.


>> CD is a bog standard ISO image downloaded off the official Knoppix site
>> so everything should already be on it that it needs.

>Try

> /sbin/lsmod | grep fuse

>lsmod is usually in the /sbin directory, which is not usually in the
>normal users' PATH, so you have to tell your shell specifically where to
>look for it.

>Stef

ChinaTrader wrote:

>
> Dear darklight,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I didn't even know I had an fstab table! How to I
> get this table data. Sorry I am not a Linux fundi so I don't know these
> strange commands.
>
>

the fstab table can be found in the directory etc so if you open a console
type su then press enter then type root password then press enter.

then cd to etc like this: cd /etc

then type kate fstab this will give you access to the fstab table.

have you tried from your user account thats if you are using kde

start menu -> my system -> storage media

Gentlemen, thank all you for your efforts - I have classified this problem in the "too hard" category. Knoppix is touted as a rescue solution for NFTS partitions, but I cannot see how it can achieve this if you need a rocket scientist to feed you a string of cryptic command line instructions just to mount the disk! We did that in the late 60's! I have tried all the above solutions and none of them work. I tried using the ntfsmount command but it tells me the "Device or resourse is busy". Well unfortunetely I am busy too so I will call it a day right there and just hope that BartPE holds up under fire. I only wanted to have Knoppix as a solution of last resort in case BartPE could not read the partition. Maybe the next release of Knoppix will do it. I won't hold my breath. Thanks again to all you well meaning folks out there. Much appreciated!