(While I know that most Linux users can pretty well take care of themselves,
I thought you may want to pass this along to your PC friends - just in
case.)

As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out
of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone
for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's
$200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course).

Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are
set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy
treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad.

As reported on CNET
(http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has
been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the
February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions
without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will
not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital
converter.

That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for
less than a year without the new digital signal converters.

Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on
people's PCs.

ji

jim wrote:
> (While I know that most Linux users can pretty well take care of themselves,
> I thought you may want to pass this along to your PC friends - just in
> case.)
>
> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out
> of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone
> for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's
> $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course).
>
> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are
> set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy
> treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad.
>
> As reported on CNET
> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has
> been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the
> February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions
> without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will
> not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital
> converter.
>
> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for
> less than a year without the new digital signal converters.
>
> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on
> people's PCs.
>
> ji
>
>
They will work fine on cable or satellite. Its only if you use a roof
antenna that you need a converter which is free if you get the
government coupon for it. Maybe you should get educated before
broadcasting garbage.

--
Claude Hopper :)

? ? ¥

On 05/22/2008 10:11 PM, Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
> jim wrote:
>> (While I know that most Linux users can pretty well take care of
>> themselves, I thought you may want to pass this along to your PC
>> friends - just in case.)
>>
>> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates
>> right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best
>> Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the
>> influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of
>> course).
>>
>> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations
>> are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how
>> Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad.
>>
>> As reported on CNET
>> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best
>> Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not
>> ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital
>> signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that
>> warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009
>> without buying an additional digital converter.
>>
>> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will
>> work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters.
>>
>> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on
>> people's PCs.
>>
>> ji
>>
> They will work fine on cable or satellite. Its only if you use a roof
> antenna that you need a converter which is free if you get the
> government coupon for it. Maybe you should get educated before
> broadcasting garbage.

If it's garbage, why is the FCC trying to impose a $3M fine on Best Buy?

Also, most of the digital converter boxes I've seen are in the $50-$70
price range. Deduct the $40 coupon and the box still costs $10-30 +
shipping. Not exactly free.

Douglas O'Neal wrote:
> On 05/22/2008 10:11 PM, Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
>> jim wrote:
>>> (While I know that most Linux users can pretty well take care of
>>> themselves, I thought you may want to pass this along to your PC
>>> friends - just in case.)
>>>
>>> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates
>>> right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best
>>> Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the
>>> influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of
>>> course).
>>>
>>> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations
>>> are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how
>>> Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad.
>>>
>>> As reported on CNET
>>> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best
>>> Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not
>>> ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital
>>> signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that
>>> warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009
>>> without buying an additional digital converter.
>>>
>>> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will
>>> work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters.
>>>
>>> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing
>>> on people's PCs.
>>>
>>> ji
>>>
>> They will work fine on cable or satellite. Its only if you use a roof
>> antenna that you need a converter which is free if you get the
>> government coupon for it. Maybe you should get educated before
>> broadcasting garbage.
>
> If it's garbage, why is the FCC trying to impose a $3M fine on Best Buy?
>
> Also, most of the digital converter boxes I've seen are in the $50-$70
> price range. Deduct the $40 coupon and the box still costs $10-30 +
> shipping. Not exactly free.

And so long as jims keep buying un-stickered analog TVs and marked up
digital converters, Best Buy will sell enough of them to net a profit
after the fine.

Why not try putting one's money where their mouth is and not going to
stores that have such odious marketing strategy and when buying from
their competition make a point to say why you chose them over the other
guys?

--
(If you want to email me, lost the pretenses.)

Don't settle for corporate values misrepresented as Christian values.
Join the Project for a New American Populist Movement.
http://www.pnapm.org

Mr. John Sydney McCain III: a "maverick" whose "principled" stands
consistently favor corporate lobbyists with love or money to give him.

Who "supports our troops" by calling to further over-stretch them and
keep them so strained while opposing the new GI Bill proposed.

Character, character, character.

Bob Peters wrote:
> Douglas O'Neal wrote:
>> On 05/22/2008 10:11 PM, Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
>>> jim wrote:
>>>> (While I know that most Linux users can pretty well take care of
>>>> themselves, I thought you may want to pass this along to your PC
>>>> friends - just in case.)
>>>>
>>>> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates
>>>> right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best
>>>> Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the
>>>> influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of
>>>> course).
>>>>
>>>> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad
>>>> operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note
>>>> as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of
>>>> Geek Squad.
>>>>
>>>> As reported on CNET
>>>> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top), Best
>>>> Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are
>>>> not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to
>>>> digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the
>>>> FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17,
>>>> 2009 without buying an additional digital converter.
>>>>
>>>> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will
>>>> work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters.
>>>>
>>>> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing
>>>> on people's PCs.
>>>>
>>>> ji
>>>>
>>> They will work fine on cable or satellite. Its only if you use a roof
>>> antenna that you need a converter which is free if you get the
>>> government coupon for it. Maybe you should get educated before
>>> broadcasting garbage.
>>
>> If it's garbage, why is the FCC trying to impose a $3M fine on Best Buy?
>>
>> Also, most of the digital converter boxes I've seen are in the $50-$70
>> price range. Deduct the $40 coupon and the box still costs $10-30 +
>> shipping. Not exactly free.
>
> And so long as jims keep buying un-stickered analog TVs and marked up
> digital converters, Best Buy will sell enough of them to net a profit
> after the fine.
>
> Why not try putting one's money where their mouth is and not going to
> stores that have such odious marketing strategy and when buying from
> their competition make a point to say why you chose them over the other
> guys?
>
I'm sure EVERY retailer is overstocked with analog sets. Like I said,
how many people are on roof top antennas?

--
Claude Hopper :)

? ? ¥

Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
> Bob Peters wrote:
>> Douglas O'Neal wrote:
>>> On 05/22/2008 10:11 PM, Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
>>>> jim wrote:
>>>>> (While I know that most Linux users can pretty well take care of
>>>>> themselves, I thought you may want to pass this along to your PC
>>>>> friends - just in case.)
>>>>>
>>>>> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates
>>>>> right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that
>>>>> Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the
>>>>> influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them,
>>>>> of course).
>>>>>
>>>>> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad
>>>>> operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take
>>>>> note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the
>>>>> services of Geek Squad.
>>>>>
>>>>> As reported on CNET
>>>>> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top),
>>>>> Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs
>>>>> are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to
>>>>> digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the
>>>>> FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17,
>>>>> 2009 without buying an additional digital converter.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will
>>>>> work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing
>>>>> on people's PCs.
>>>>>
>>>>> ji
>>>>>
>>>> They will work fine on cable or satellite. Its only if you use a
>>>> roof antenna that you need a converter which is free if you get the
>>>> government coupon for it. Maybe you should get educated before
>>>> broadcasting garbage.
>>>
>>> If it's garbage, why is the FCC trying to impose a $3M fine on Best Buy?
>>>
>>> Also, most of the digital converter boxes I've seen are in the $50-$70
>>> price range. Deduct the $40 coupon and the box still costs $10-30 +
>>> shipping. Not exactly free.
>>
>> And so long as jims keep buying un-stickered analog TVs and marked up
>> digital converters, Best Buy will sell enough of them to net a profit
>> after the fine.
>>
>> Why not try putting one's money where their mouth is and not going to
>> stores that have such odious marketing strategy and when buying from
>> their competition make a point to say why you chose them over the
>> other guys?
>>
> I'm sure EVERY retailer is overstocked with analog sets. Like I said,
> how many people are on roof top antennas?
>

I haven't seen a rooftop antenna in decades, but once in a very long
while, I do see a set-top "rabbit ears" antenna in use, usually by
either someone who is really financially down and out or by some
non-conventional type who rarely watch TV because they think it's gone
to the birds and the amateurs on You Tube are more entertaining.

--
(If you want to email me, lost the pretenses.)

Don't settle for corporate values misrepresented as Christian values.
Join the Project for a New American Populist Movement.
http://www.pnapm.org

Mr. John Sydney McCain III: a "maverick" whose "principled" stands
consistently favor corporate lobbyists with love or money to give him.

Who "supports our troops" by calling to further over-stretch them and
keep them so strained while opposing the new GI Bill proposed.

Character, character, character.

Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:

> Like I said, how many people are on roof top antennas?

Get out into the countryside, and /everyone/ has rooftop antennas!

C.

On Mon, 26 May 2008 15:16:41 +0100, Christopher Hunter wrote:
> Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
>
>> Like I said, how many people are on roof top antennas?
>
> Get out into the countryside, and /everyone/ has rooftop antennas!

And, _everyone_ of them is blessed with dial-up internet access.

They *really* look forward to the idiots that "sened this to all your
friends" the [Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Joke] html emails with embedded video.

Bob Peters wrote:
> Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
>> Bob Peters wrote:
>>> Douglas O'Neal wrote:
>>>> On 05/22/2008 10:11 PM, Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
>>>>> jim wrote:
>>>>>> (While I know that most Linux users can pretty well take care of
>>>>>> themselves, I thought you may want to pass this along to your PC
>>>>>> friends - just in case.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates
>>>>>> right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that
>>>>>> Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the
>>>>>> influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them,
>>>>>> of course).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad
>>>>>> operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take
>>>>>> note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the
>>>>>> services of Geek Squad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As reported on CNET
>>>>>> (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...l?tag=nefd.top),
>>>>>> Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs
>>>>>> are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television
>>>>>> to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by
>>>>>> the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after
>>>>>> February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will
>>>>>> work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is
>>>>>> installing on people's PCs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ji
>>>>>>
>>>>> They will work fine on cable or satellite. Its only if you use a
>>>>> roof antenna that you need a converter which is free if you get the
>>>>> government coupon for it. Maybe you should get educated before
>>>>> broadcasting garbage.
>>>>
>>>> If it's garbage, why is the FCC trying to impose a $3M fine on Best
>>>> Buy?
>>>>
>>>> Also, most of the digital converter boxes I've seen are in the $50-$70
>>>> price range. Deduct the $40 coupon and the box still costs $10-30 +
>>>> shipping. Not exactly free.
>>>
>>> And so long as jims keep buying un-stickered analog TVs and marked up
>>> digital converters, Best Buy will sell enough of them to net a profit
>>> after the fine.
>>>
>>> Why not try putting one's money where their mouth is and not going to
>>> stores that have such odious marketing strategy and when buying from
>>> their competition make a point to say why you chose them over the
>>> other guys?
>>>
>> I'm sure EVERY retailer is overstocked with analog sets. Like I said,
>> how many people are on roof top antennas?
>>
>
> I haven't seen a rooftop antenna in decades, but once in a very long
> while, I do see a set-top "rabbit ears" antenna in use, usually by
> either someone who is really financially down and out or by some
> non-conventional type who rarely watch TV because they think it's gone
> to the birds and the amateurs on You Tube are more entertaining.
>

Not just people without cable or satellite either. Just yesterday my
cable signal on my local ABC affiliate's channel turned to a static mess
and I had to dig out the old "rabbit ears" to watch my big event off the
free airwaves instead of the cable I paid for.

Don't expect Comcast to pay my complaint about that too much attention.

--
(If you want to email me, lost the pretenses.)

Don't settle for corporate values misrepresented as Christian values.
Join the Project for a New American Populist Movement.
http://www.pnapm.org

Mr. John Sydney McCain III: a "maverick" whose "principled" stands
consistently favor corporate lobbyists with love or money to give him.

Who "supports our troops" by calling to further over-stretch them and
keep them so strained while opposing the new GI Bill proposed.

Character, character, character.

Christopher Hunter wrote:
> Get out into the countryside, and /everyone/ has rooftop antennas!

No, not _everyone_.

Allodoxaphobia writes:
> And, _everyone_ of them is blessed with dial-up internet access.

DSL.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

* Bob Peters peremptorily fired off this memo:

> Not just people without cable or satellite either. Just yesterday my
> cable signal on my local ABC affiliate's channel turned to a static mess
> and I had to dig out the old "rabbit ears" to watch my big event off the
> free airwaves instead of the cable I paid for.
>
> Don't expect Comcast to pay my complaint about that too much attention.

Oh, they'll get to it in a couple of weeks.

--
Your most unhappy customers are your greatest source of learning.
-- Bill Gates

On 26 May 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux, in article
<slrng3ljsc.1uq2.bit-bucket@shell.config.com>, Allodoxaphobia wrote:

>They *really* look forward to the idiots that "sened this to all your
>friends" the [Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Joke] html emails with embedded video.

s/all your friends/anyone whose address has been included in any mail
you have ever received/

Most of the time, the actual crap is an ancient joke first posted to
news://rec.humor (not rec.humor.funny) more that five years ago, or is
some hoary piece of obviously bogus folklore that even the people in
news://alt.folklore.urban ignore.

I've still got a spam filter script that connects to the mail server
every ten minutes, grabs the headers of incoming mail, and runs them
past a rather extensive set of checks. One of the checks is for subject
lines beginning with 'Fw' - that goes into the auto-delete from the
server with the other offers I can't live without.

Old guy

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.]

Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>:
> [schnipped]

Just to Moe (sorry everyone), does that address work? I'd like to off-line
you, please. My email above does work; feel free.

I'll be polite and not Cc: it (in case that blackholes me :-).


--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(*) http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292
- - http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Please, don't Cc: me.

On Tue, 27 May 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.os.linux, in article
<slrng3mou8.4vi.keeling@phreaque.nucleus.com>, s. keeling wrote:

>Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>:

>> [schnipped]
>
>Just to Moe (sorry everyone), does that address work?

[compton ~]$ grep tld top.level.domains
[compton ~]$

I don't think so ;-) The other address (ibuprofin@compton.phx.az.us)
is also invalid now.

>I'd like to off-line you, please. My email above does work; feel free.

Look for mail after 5 PM (your) local from NNNddddkeyword.cybertrails.com
where NNN is letters, dddd is digits. The 'From:' will be valid.

Old guy

>> Don't expect Comcast to pay my complaint about that too much attention.
>
> Oh, they'll get to it in a couple of weeks.

It's Comcast, what are they going to do? Block ABC Family?