"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in
news:g0pa8h$q5i$1@news.datemas.de:

> Maybe I am the first person you have run into that knows what vista
> does and how to use it?

There's a reason that Micro$oft had to go back to putting XP on new
machines.

"elaich" <x@y.z> wrote in message news:69ba9oF2vae96U6@mid.individual.net...
> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in
> news:g0pa8h$q5i$1@news.datemas.de:
>
>> Maybe I am the first person you have run into that knows what vista
>> does and how to use it?
>
> There's a reason that Micro$oft had to go back to putting XP on new
> machines.

Yes there is.
The same reason linux struggles..
people don't like change and XP does what they want.

However there are some that like to try new things and put in a few hours to
get them to work.
Without people like that there wouldn't be an alternative to DOS.

dennis@home wrote:

>
>
> "Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:g0plr2$98s$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:g0pbm5$k2f$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> elaich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:g0nbn0$38v$1@news.datemas.de:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course your MB manufacturer may not do XP drivers as its such
>>>>>> an old OS then you are stuck with vista (which is better than
>>>>>> XP).
>>>>>
>>>>> Your the first person I've run into who thinks so.
>>>>
>>>> Add a "Me Too"
>>>
>>> However you are not the first person I have run into that thinks its
>>> easier to clean a linux system than a windows one.
>>
>> I didn't say that at all !
>>
>>> Try cleaning up after the ssh key debacle and you will find out just
>>> how hard it is to be sure a linux machine that has had a security
>>> hole in it really is.
>>
>> Which ssh debacle was that ?
>
> This one incase you haven't checked your systems yet.
>
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...intsrc=hm_list
> You need to check for exploits incase you or a machine you trusted has
> been compromised as well as applying the patch.
> Windows and Mac users also need to check as there are an unknown
> number of linux servers that could have been compromised that they may
> have been trusting.

Thanks for the heads up ! Fortunately I nor any of my clients run
any "Debian" systems. Which is why I hadn't picked up on this.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

"Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:g0ptsf$k5q$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:g0plr2$98s$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:g0pbm5$k2f$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> elaich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:g0nbn0$38v$1@news.datemas.de:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course your MB manufacturer may not do XP drivers as its such
>>>>>>> an old OS then you are stuck with vista (which is better than
>>>>>>> XP).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your the first person I've run into who thinks so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Add a "Me Too"
>>>>
>>>> However you are not the first person I have run into that thinks its
>>>> easier to clean a linux system than a windows one.
>>>
>>> I didn't say that at all !
>>>
>>>> Try cleaning up after the ssh key debacle and you will find out just
>>>> how hard it is to be sure a linux machine that has had a security
>>>> hole in it really is.
>>>
>>> Which ssh debacle was that ?
>>
>> This one incase you haven't checked your systems yet.
>>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/...intsrc=hm_list
>> You need to check for exploits incase you or a machine you trusted has
>> been compromised as well as applying the patch.
>> Windows and Mac users also need to check as there are an unknown
>> number of linux servers that could have been compromised that they may
>> have been trusting.
>
> Thanks for the heads up ! Fortunately I nor any of my clients run
> any "Debian" systems. Which is why I hadn't picked up on this.

Unfortunately you don't have to run one to be affected.
Any server you accessed could have had one of the duff keys meaning you were
not safe if you trusted that site.
If you downloaded anything or needed secure login then you could have a
problem if the server keys were broken.
People generate keys on one machine and use them on others.

On Sat, 17 May 2008 13:17:53 -0500, Dr. Deb wrote:

> Got a question. I would like to reinstall XP so it will take advantage
> of my SATA drives (after all speed was the whole reason I bought them in
> the first place). I would not even be considering this if Wine were a
> bit more stable. The only thing I use XP for is to play WoW. I had it
> working under Wine (PCLinuxOS 2008MiniMe) and did a general upgrade.
> Between the update to the system, including Wine and the updates
> Blizzard made to Wow, I cannot get WoW to run under Linux any more.
> Bummer - much better experience than under XP.
>
> When I installed XP, I did not know it would not read SATA, after all
> Windows is the latest and greatest OS ever written. Right? Yeah,
> right. Anyhow I did the install on the new box and all went well. Got
> Linux up and running afterward (which was easier than the XP install).
> Then noticed that I was running my drives under IDE. Changed to SATA
> and, you know what happened. Linux ran like a top and XP refused to
> load.
>
> So, if I reinstall XP, which will wipe the bootloader, into the existing
> partition and then install PCLinux OS into an empty partition, but mount
> the existing Linux partition under the new install. Then I can grab my
> now current bootloader file (menu.1st), copy it to the new partition,
> rerun the bootloader app and I should be able to boot to my current
> Linux partition. I could then, rerun the bootloader just to tidy things
> up.
>
> Will that work?

You don't need to go through all that. All you need is a Live Linux CD
to reinstall grub onto the Master Boot Record using the command grub-
install. As long as your partitioning and locations of your OSes and
their files hasn't changed after the new install of XP, which would
affect menu.lst or grub.conf, then everything should work.

man grub-install or info grub-install for the details.

Stef

"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in news:g0pste$gaj$1
@news.datemas.de:

> Without people like that there wouldn't be an alternative to DOS.

Give me a break. Vista is a steaming pile of dogcrap. People have always
flocked to the next Windows release because it was better. People (even
very dumb, stupid people) are rejecting Vista like it's smallpox.

You know how it works, huh? Billy will never pull the switch now to enable
the DRM, since it's selling so poorly and he doesn't want to alienate
anyone else, but if the plan had worked, you would have Uncle Billy telling
you by now what music you can listen to, what movies you can watch, and
what software you can run.

Stupid wintroll. You are now a memeber of my plonk community. There are
some really idiotic people in there - you'll fit right in.

"elaich" <x@y.z> wrote in message news:69bq4gF2v4h0vU4@mid.individual.net...
> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in news:g0pste$gaj$1
> @news.datemas.de:
>
>> Without people like that there wouldn't be an alternative to DOS.
>
> Give me a break. Vista is a steaming pile of dogcrap. People have always
> flocked to the next Windows release because it was better. People (even
> very dumb, stupid people) are rejecting Vista like it's smallpox.
>
> You know how it works, huh? Billy will never pull the switch now to enable
> the DRM, since it's selling so poorly and he doesn't want to alienate
> anyone else, but if the plan had worked, you would have Uncle Billy
> telling
> you by now what music you can listen to, what movies you can watch, and
> what software you can run.
>
> Stupid wintroll. You are now a memeber of my plonk community. There are
> some really idiotic people in there - you'll fit right in.

Idiot.

On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:08:41 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

> dennis@home wrote:
>
>> So reinstall xp and boot a live cd and reinstall grub
>
> Linux installation media usually has rescue mode, which gives a console
> environment with the most common gnu tools.


I know, I told him that earlier as most installation disks are liveCDs
anyway.

PS This is pan so I don't know if it works yet.