Canuck57 wrote:
> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
> news:g0m270$h4o$1@news.datemas.de...
>>
>
> Hey Scotty, come up and replace this NT DLL or hard drive so we can launch
> these **** things...whew...scary thought with a SU 30 or SU 47 coming at
> you.
>
You really are an idiot. You have no business discussing anything technical.

You'll be wise to limit your technical expertise to how to turn on the
fryer to fry tacos at Taco Bell.

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> writes:

> "Hadron" <hadronquark@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0n11j$rpf$4@registered.motzarella.org...
>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> writes:
>>
>>> "The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message
>>> news:1211032348.5441.0@proxy01.news.clara.net...
>>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ivan Marsh" <ivanmarsh******.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:pan.2008.05.16.18.37.28.500559******.com...
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:56:01 -0700, -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "dennis@home" <den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ... no mention of vista gives you several choices including: linux,
>>>>>>>>> Mac, XP, 98, 95, CE, pSOS, DOS, and loads of others. Choose the
>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>> one for the application and everything will be fine.
>>>>>>>> IIRC, the USN had been using NT on some of their ships a couple of
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's some links:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.gcn.com/print/17_17/33727-1.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/1998/07/13987>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://windowsitpro.com/article/arti...nt-sinks-navy-
>>>>>>>> ship.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are all pretty dated; not sure if there's more current info
>>>>>>>> online
>>>>>>>> or not.
>>>>>>> Sorry... but the Yorktown meltdown had to do with a divide by zero
>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>> in the engine power interface when the operator entered zero into a
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> input field which was the fault of the person who programmed the
>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>> software and had nothing to do with the operating system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *This should in no way be misconstrued as an endorsement of windows.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would not knowingly trust my life to a Microsoft OS.*
>>>>>> It still highlights the general poor quality of MS-Windows programming
>>>>>> methodologies spilling into serious software development cycles and
>>>>>> today's design techniques. While software has become more complex, it
>>>>>> is also true the teams developing it are much larger, better funded
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> generally less disciplined. We somehow think a business NET ad-hoc
>>>>>> programmer makes a embedded systems programmer, and that is a fallacy
>>>>>> for greed.
>>>>>
>>>>> What a load of uninformed bull****.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds pretty accurate to me, having worked on just such teams in the
>>>> past.
>>>
>>> Maybe Hadron never worked on a well run, smooth, reliable, well
>>> performing
>>> large scale software development project that was also on budget and on
>>> time. Many have not had this experience.
>>
>>
>> And here we see the thread twist.
>>
>> Please go back and reread what is being discussed.
>
> No twist. You are likely one of those cowboy developers. My guess anyway.
> Don't like processes that are repeatable and well defined.

At no stage did I say that. I use such processes. Please quote me saying
otherwise.

> Lets hope you never write code for something that results in life or death.
> Or losing a billion dollar ship for a couple of bucks of structured software
> development.

hate to tell you old bean but I have worked on just such. And under
tight, tight process control.

Why are you slinging allegations around?

The issue at debate here is this silly claim about "Loose MS standards"
and Hilliards ridiculous boasting about how he selects the best OS
*AFTER* he has manged these mega projects to completion.

Hadron wrote:
> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> writes:
>
>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw******.com> wrote in message
>
>> Anyone in engineering and science had better know MKS. Not 100% sure of
>> this, but is not the US the last market on earth using metric? Even the
>> British sell gas by the litre.
>
> Is there some subtle joke in this ludicrous statement?

Not really. its true.

Well we sell PETROL by the litre, Gas is sold by the cu ft I believe.

dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
> news:XxDXj.275248$pM4.113716@pd7urf1no...
>
>
>> Anyone in engineering and science had better know MKS. Not 100% sure
>> of this, but is not the US the last market on earth using metric?
>> Even the British sell gas by the litre.
>>
>
> Well we did invent the imperial *and* metric systems.

French invented the metric system AFAICR.

Imperial was developed in Europe..hard to say that England was where it
really started.

The 'Mile' is a thousand paces..standardised Roman paces..

The 'yard' is how for you can pull a bowstring, or a bolt of cloth with
one hand to the body and the other extended..
etc..

The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> writes:
>>
>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <brick.n.straw******.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> Anyone in engineering and science had better know MKS. Not 100%
>>> sure of this, but is not the US the last market on earth using
>>> metric? Even the British sell gas by the litre.
>>
>> Is there some subtle joke in this ludicrous statement?
>
> Not really. its true.

Actually, no, really, it is not.

> Well we sell PETROL by the litre, Gas is sold by the cu ft I believe.

So?

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