Well I'm going to see what happens.

I do volunteer work for a Non-Profit orginization...
and refurbish donated computers which in-turn are sold at a rock bottom
price
to the fixed income members.

The machine are generally p-II's and once in a while a p-III will turn up.

Since it's a Non-Profit org...they can re-license the machines with Win2k
for $5 each.
It keeps things legal...but considering that the machines are being sold for
just $10 each...
that leaves just $5 per machine to fund the program. (After all, I do have
to scrounge up and
occasionally pay for used parts.)

Today, someone gave me an old P-II-300 server...partially stripped down.
But... I found a real nice 2gig Ultra-wide SCSI drive up in my attic...
but there is not too much one can do with a 2gig drive....or is there?

So in just a matter of a few minutes...I install **** Small Linux
on the machine and it works great. Heck I could have used a lot smaller
drive had I wanted to.


Since for the most part...these machines are just used to check email and do
a little web surfing...
I think this machine may work out well.

Considering how the funding was cut this year...every little bit helps!

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:40:33 -0600, philo wrote:

> Well I'm going to see what happens.
>
> I do volunteer work for a Non-Profit orginization... and refurbish
> donated computers which in-turn are sold at a rock bottom price
> to the fixed income members.
>
> The machine are generally p-II's and once in a while a p-III will turn
> up.
>
> Since it's a Non-Profit org...they can re-license the machines with
> Win2k for $5 each.
> It keeps things legal...but considering that the machines are being sold
> for just $10 each...
> that leaves just $5 per machine to fund the program. (After all, I do
> have to scrounge up and
> occasionally pay for used parts.)
>
> Today, someone gave me an old P-II-300 server...partially stripped down.
> But... I found a real nice 2gig Ultra-wide SCSI drive up in my attic...
> but there is not too much one can do with a 2gig drive....or is there?
>
> So in just a matter of a few minutes...I install **** Small Linux on the
> machine and it works great. Heck I could have used a lot smaller drive
> had I wanted to.
>
>
> Since for the most part...these machines are just used to check email
> and do a little web surfing...
> I think this machine may work out well.
>
> Considering how the funding was cut this year...every little bit helps!

You forgot to tell us where it is! Here it is so the rest of you don't
need to search. It is nice, but having to use MyDSL extensions etc is
really quite annoying, I would much prefer a mini-linux installation LIKE
****small, but not meant for liveCD usage.

On another note, the absolute smallest bootable linux system I've messed
with is TTYLinux - 3.7 MB bootable CD image. Holy freaking crap! (of
course it's only meant to let you dial out into another system, but still)
(http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/)


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PGP Key: 0xBD652112

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:31:17 +0000, draeath wrote:

> You forgot to tell us where it is! Here it is so the rest of you don't
> need to search. It is nice, but having to use MyDSL extensions etc is
> really quite annoying, I would much prefer a mini-linux installation
> LIKE ****small, but not meant for liveCD usage.
>
> On another note, the absolute smallest bootable linux system I've messed
> with is TTYLinux - 3.7 MB bootable CD image. Holy freaking crap! (of
> course it's only meant to let you dial out into another system, but
> still) (http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/)

Wow, I'm a moron. http://****smalllinux.org/ for **** Small Linux

--
PGP Key: 0xBD652112

philo wrote:
> but there is not too much one can do with a 2gig drive....or is there?

Oh yes there is - I'm currently working on a MiniITX comp with 800 MHz
and 1Gig of Ram, and the OS (a stripped-down kubuntu, but with KDE) is
installed on a 2Gig Compactflash drive.

I've been doing stuff with this baby that windows can only dream of -
having a completely noiseless comp for one, besides using it with
PulseAudio to share my sound system and all sorts of routing and DNS
stuff with various VPNs, and last but not least the everyday web surfing
and emailing.

Wouldn't want to miss it, and everything's running off a 2Gig flashdrive :)


Michael

"draeath" <draeath.spamtrap******.com> wrote in message
news:sNdnj.3350$gw6.2592@fe10.news.easynews.com...
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:31:17 +0000, draeath wrote:
>
> > You forgot to tell us where it is! Here it is so the rest of you don't
> > need to search. It is nice, but having to use MyDSL extensions etc is
> > really quite annoying, I would much prefer a mini-linux installation
> > LIKE ****small, but not meant for liveCD usage.
> >
> > On another note, the absolute smallest bootable linux system I've messed
> > with is TTYLinux - 3.7 MB bootable CD image. Holy freaking crap! (of
> > course it's only meant to let you dial out into another system, but
> > still) (http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/)
>
> Wow, I'm a moron. http://****smalllinux.org/ for **** Small Linux
>



Hey do you know how many times I've had a problem...
worked on it til I've given up...
the posted a question on Usenet...

then...as soon as I've hit the "send" button...
figure it out!

Seems to happen a lot to me <G>

"Michael Ziegler" <haettstegern@hoster.invalid> wrote in message
news:fnkdb9$fj5$1@cb.generation-online.de...
> philo wrote:
> > but there is not too much one can do with a 2gig drive....or is there?
>
> Oh yes there is - I'm currently working on a MiniITX comp with 800 MHz
> and 1Gig of Ram, and the OS (a stripped-down kubuntu, but with KDE) is
> installed on a 2Gig Compactflash drive.
>
> I've been doing stuff with this baby that windows can only dream of -
> having a completely noiseless comp for one, besides using it with
> PulseAudio to share my sound system and all sorts of routing and DNS
> stuff with various VPNs, and last but not least the everyday web surfing
> and emailing.
>
> Wouldn't want to miss it, and everything's running off a 2Gig flashdrive
:)
>
>
> Michael

Well...since I also had a whole bunch of 4 gig drives that I really don't
want to waste...
I decided to upgrade the machine to one of those and leave it at that.

However...It was not too very long ago when I upgraded my P1 from an 850meg
drive to a 2 gig drive
and was actually nervous about handling a drive so large!!!!


A number of years back I did an experiment in "getting the most from the
least"
and ended up using a 386 with win95 on a 50 meg non-compressed drive.
I had to xcopy an existing installation to the smaller drive.

Anyway...I am about to 'button up' the (DSL) machine and bring it in to the
"club"
and see who ends up with it.

draeath wrote:

> On another note, the absolute smallest bootable linux system I've messed
> with is TTYLinux - 3.7 MB bootable CD image. Holy freaking crap! (of
> course it's only meant to let you dial out into another system, but still)
> (http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/)

The smallest Unix-alike I've ever used is QNX. The whole thing would fit on
a standard floppy, and included a graphical web browser! QNX was aimed at
the embedded market, and I developed two or three products with it before
bigger memory space became cheap, and I moved to embedded Linux. QNX also
had the problem that it is proprietary...

C.

* Christopher Hunter wrote in alt.os.linux:

> draeath wrote:
>
>> On another note, the absolute smallest bootable linux system I've
>> messed with is TTYLinux - 3.7 MB bootable CD image. Holy freaking
>> crap! (of course it's only meant to let you dial out into another
>> system, but still) (http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/)
>
> The smallest Unix-alike I've ever used is QNX. The whole thing would
> fit on a standard floppy, and included a graphical web browser! QNX
> was aimed at the embedded market, and I developed two or three
> products with it before bigger memory space became cheap, and I moved
> to embedded Linux. QNX also had the problem that it is proprietary...
>
> C.
>

There is always Tom's

http://www.toms.net/rb/

--
David

"Christopher Hunter" <chrisehunter@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2cqnj.17979$Kt4.6573@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> draeath wrote:
>
> > On another note, the absolute smallest bootable linux system I've messed
> > with is TTYLinux - 3.7 MB bootable CD image. Holy freaking crap! (of
> > course it's only meant to let you dial out into another system, but
still)
> > (http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/)
>
> The smallest Unix-alike I've ever used is QNX. The whole thing would fit
on
> a standard floppy, and included a graphical web browser! QNX was aimed at
> the embedded market, and I developed two or three products with it before
> bigger memory space became cheap, and I moved to embedded Linux. QNX also
> had the problem that it is proprietary...
>
> C.


Yes!!!
That was a good one. The QNX demo. I still have my floppy...
and used it quite often back in the days of dial-up.

Heck I used to use it as a modem diagnostic tool.

On 2008-01-28, Christopher Hunter <chrisehunter@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> draeath wrote:
>
>> On another note, the absolute smallest bootable linux system I've messed
>> with is TTYLinux - 3.7 MB bootable CD image. Holy freaking crap! (of
>> course it's only meant to let you dial out into another system, but still)
>> (http://www.minimalinux.org/ttylinux/)
>
> The smallest Unix-alike I've ever used is QNX. The whole thing would fit on
> a standard floppy, and included a graphical web browser! QNX was aimed at
> the embedded market, and I developed two or three products with it before
> bigger memory space became cheap, and I moved to embedded Linux. QNX also
> had the problem that it is proprietary...

Not embedded, real time and/or distributed market. BTW, you'll love
this:

http://www.qnx.com/
http://www.qnx.com/download/group.html?programid=7789
http://www.openqnx.com/
--
Large Systems Suck. This rule is 100% transitive. If you build one, you suck.
-- Steve Yegge

philo wrote:
> Well I'm going to see what happens.
>
> I do volunteer work for a Non-Profit orginization...
> and refurbish donated computers which in-turn are sold at a rock bottom
> price
> to the fixed income members.
>
> The machine are generally p-II's and once in a while a p-III will turn up.
>
> Since it's a Non-Profit org...they can re-license the machines with Win2k
> for $5 each.
> It keeps things legal...but considering that the machines are being sold for
> just $10 each...
> that leaves just $5 per machine to fund the program. (After all, I do have
> to scrounge up and
> occasionally pay for used parts.)
>
> Today, someone gave me an old P-II-300 server...partially stripped down.
> But... I found a real nice 2gig Ultra-wide SCSI drive up in my attic...
> but there is not too much one can do with a 2gig drive....or is there?
>
> So in just a matter of a few minutes...I install **** Small Linux
> on the machine and it works great. Heck I could have used a lot smaller
> drive had I wanted to.
>
>
> Since for the most part...these machines are just used to check email and do
> a little web surfing...
> I think this machine may work out well.
>
> Considering how the funding was cut this year...every little bit helps!
>
>
>
>
There is also PCLinuxOS MiniME 2008 that gives you a minimal setup with
KDE. Puppy Linux, Slax, and Bonzai flavors. All free downloading.
http://www.linux.org/dist/

--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 :) 7/8

> >
> >
> > Since for the most part...these machines are just used to check email
and do
> > a little web surfing...
> > I think this machine may work out well.
> >
> > Considering how the funding was cut this year...every little bit helps!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> There is also PCLinuxOS MiniME 2008 that gives you a minimal setup with
> KDE. Puppy Linux, Slax, and Bonzai flavors. All free downloading.
> http://www.linux.org/dist/
>



Thank you...
Through the years I have tried out many distros...and currently have
PCLinux2007 installed on one of my machines...
but I was not aware of the 2008 mini.


But the 50 megs DSL download is all I need (for now at least)

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:40:33 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Well I'm going to see what happens.
>
>I do volunteer work for a Non-Profit orginization...
>and refurbish donated computers which in-turn are sold at a rock bottom
>price
>to the fixed income members.
>
>The machine are generally p-II's and once in a while a p-III will turn up.
>
>Since it's a Non-Profit org...they can re-license the machines with Win2k
>for $5 each.
>It keeps things legal...but considering that the machines are being sold for
>just $10 each...
>that leaves just $5 per machine to fund the program. (After all, I do have
>to scrounge up and
>occasionally pay for used parts.)
>
>Today, someone gave me an old P-II-300 server...partially stripped down.
>But... I found a real nice 2gig Ultra-wide SCSI drive up in my attic...
>but there is not too much one can do with a 2gig drive....or is there?
>
>So in just a matter of a few minutes...I install **** Small Linux
>on the machine and it works great. Heck I could have used a lot smaller
>drive had I wanted to.
>
>
>Since for the most part...these machines are just used to check email and do
>a little web surfing...
>I think this machine may work out well.
>
>Considering how the funding was cut this year...every little bit helps!
>
>
>
===========
Ah the days of DOS when a two floppy drive machine with 64=>K<=
of memory was top of the line and software came on a single sided
disk single density disk in a baggie....

Another factor is the applications programs to actually make the
machine do something useful. Plenty of rock-solid
open-source/gpl applications such as the open office suite,
mail/newsgroup readers and browsers are available.

> >
> >
> ===========
> Ah the days of DOS when a two floppy drive machine with 64=>K<=
> of memory was top of the line and software came on a single sided
> disk single density disk in a baggie....
>
> Another factor is the applications programs to actually make the
> machine do something useful. Plenty of rock-solid
> open-source/gpl applications such as the open office suite,
> mail/newsgroup readers and browsers are available.
>
>


Well...I just stopped in the the "Club" today and they have 3 machines
left...
to be used up...
but when they go...which will be soon...I will bring one Linux box in.

Though I did write a few Fortran IV preograms back in the punch card days...
and even had a TI-99 back in 1982...
I stayed totally away from computers until 1999...
so kind of missed those good old days !
Of course within 6 months of having my first PC (with win95)
I was trying to get Linux installed...After a lot of fooling around...
I was quite please when I finally got RH5.2 up and running.
For me...those were the good old days <G>