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Old 01-14-2008, 07:50 PM
harry palmer
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Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't find correct screen settings

Hi there

I have managed to get the drive back in the Sony vaio after loading a fresh
copy of DSL BUT all is not well.

1 I get messages from the ACPI bios that crop up ever 30 secs or so and are
a real pain. they are acpi errors 1133 , 0295 and 0352. I have found threads
that tell me that I should enter codes to turn ACPI off BUT I have no clue
where to do this.

2 I cannot find the correct screen setup for this machine. Its a sony vaio
pcg 505ts. I've reloaded the os about six times now and I really am
considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though in 64 mb it will
suck.

if anyone can lend a hand and tell me which file to edit and anything else
that might help me out I'd appreciate it. I am a linux noob and am making
the leap from Windoze. Even using a command line editor is beyond me..




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Old 01-14-2008, 08:01 PM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't find correct screen settings

harry palmer writes:
> I really am considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though
> in 64 mb it will suck.


Only if you insist on using the default Gnome desktop.
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:01 PM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't find correct screen settings


"John Hasler" <john@dhh.gt.org> wrote in message
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> harry palmer writes:
>> I really am considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though
>> in 64 mb it will suck.

>
> Only if you insist on using the default Gnome desktop.
> --
> John Hasler
> john@dhh.gt.org
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI USA


what is the alternative please? and how do I go about setting it up?




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Old 01-15-2008, 08:31 AM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't find correct screen settings


"harry palmer" <nope@nope.for> wrote in message
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> Hi there
>
> I have managed to get the drive back in the Sony vaio after loading a
> fresh copy of DSL BUT all is not well.
>
> 1 I get messages from the ACPI bios that crop up ever 30 secs or so and
> are a real pain. they are acpi errors 1133 , 0295 and 0352. I have found
> threads that tell me that I should enter codes to turn ACPI off BUT I have
> no clue where to do this.
>
> 2 I cannot find the correct screen setup for this machine. Its a sony vaio
> pcg 505ts. I've reloaded the os about six times now and I really am
> considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though in 64 mb it
> will suck.
>
> if anyone can lend a hand and tell me which file to edit and anything else
> that might help me out I'd appreciate it. I am a linux noob and am making
> the leap from Windoze. Even using a command line editor is beyond me..
>
>
>
>

On the same topic I'm logged in to the relevant website ****smalllinux.org
but can't post. I set up a user and thought this was all I needed to do? I
have Ubuntu loaded now BUT it's slower than crap. I think DSL is the better
choice for this machine.


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Old 01-15-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't findcorrect screen settings

harry palmer wrote:
> "John Hasler" <john@dhh.gt.org> wrote in message
> news:87prw36956.fsf@toncho.dhh.gt.org...
>> harry palmer writes:
>>> I really am considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though
>>> in 64 mb it will suck.

>> Only if you insist on using the default Gnome desktop.


<fixing broken news client leaving signature>

> what is the alternative please? and how do I go about setting it up?


There are a lot of alternatives and I would say all are better than Gnome2.
My favorite when it comes to lightweight is ctwm, but I guess many on this
newsgroup will say xfce.

Here is a site with a bit extra info for you: http://xwinman.org


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Old 01-15-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't findcorrect screen settings

harry palmer wrote:
> 1 I get messages from the ACPI bios that crop up ever 30 secs or so and are
> a real pain. they are acpi errors 1133 , 0295 and 0352. I have found threads
> that tell me that I should enter codes to turn ACPI off BUT I have no clue
> where to do this.


You can disable the ACPI in the boot loader.

Even if this one is for RHEL, it's the same for other distributions too.
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/e...-bootopts.html

To turn off acpi, add the following to the boot options

noacpi

if you use lilo, you will need to reinstall it to the MBR avter you made
changes in lilo.conf. (using grub, you don't have to do anything than edit the
grub.conf)


> 2 I cannot find the correct screen setup for this machine. Its a sony vaio
> pcg 505ts. I've reloaded the os about six times now and I really am
> considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though in 64 mb it will
> suck.


Not sure, but maybe your laptop is somewhat similar to the z505sx, then you
see how your xorg.conf should look like at this location:
http://www.themoes.org/linux/vaio


> if anyone can lend a hand and tell me which file to edit and anything else
> that might help me out I'd appreciate it. I am a linux noob and am making
> the leap from Windoze. Even using a command line editor is beyond me..


Should tell you that laptops are the most difficult machines to install Linux
on, this much for the specification of the hardware is quite unknown and the
hardware manufacturers in China who makes all them, don't release the information.

There is install howtos at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html
You can look for machines with similar hardware and check up what may be
difficult and get tips, even if the howto write did use another distribution.



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Old 01-15-2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't find correct screen settings


"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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> harry palmer wrote:
>> 1 I get messages from the ACPI bios that crop up ever 30 secs or so and
>> are
>> a real pain. they are acpi errors 1133 , 0295 and 0352. I have found
>> threads
>> that tell me that I should enter codes to turn ACPI off BUT I have no
>> clue
>> where to do this.

>
> You can disable the ACPI in the boot loader.
>
> Even if this one is for RHEL, it's the same for other distributions too.
> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/e...-bootopts.html
>
> To turn off acpi, add the following to the boot options
>
> noacpi
>
> if you use lilo, you will need to reinstall it to the MBR avter you made
> changes in lilo.conf. (using grub, you don't have to do anything than edit
> the
> grub.conf)
>
>
>> 2 I cannot find the correct screen setup for this machine. Its a sony
>> vaio
>> pcg 505ts. I've reloaded the os about six times now and I really am
>> considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though in 64 mb it
>> will
>> suck.

>
> Not sure, but maybe your laptop is somewhat similar to the z505sx, then
> you
> see how your xorg.conf should look like at this location:
> http://www.themoes.org/linux/vaio
>
>
>> if anyone can lend a hand and tell me which file to edit and anything
>> else
>> that might help me out I'd appreciate it. I am a linux noob and am making
>> the leap from Windoze. Even using a command line editor is beyond me..

>
> Should tell you that laptops are the most difficult machines to install
> Linux
> on, this much for the specification of the hardware is quite unknown and
> the
> hardware manufacturers in China who makes all them, don't release the
> information.
>
> There is install howtos at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html
> You can look for machines with similar hardware and check up what may be
> difficult and get tips, even if the howto write did use another
> distribution.
>
>
>
> --
>
> //Aho


once again you are there to help poor saps like me out. I found the link for
the z505 BUT am stuck as to how to apply the changes given that I can't see
the screen. I'll put the drive back AGAIN in the compaq and give it a shot.
I'm a little pissed though as Ubuntu loaded seamlessly but struggles to work
in 64mb ram, I'll keep plugging away as I'm learning lots as I do it. Thanks
again for helping me out.


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Old 01-15-2008, 03:10 PM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't find correct screen settings

harry palmer wrote:

> Hi there
>
> I have managed to get the drive back in the Sony vaio after loading a
> fresh
> copy of DSL BUT all is not well.
>


I like DSL and use it with one of my bootable USB sticks as an emergency
rescue device... Windows users are amazed...

> 1 I get messages from the ACPI bios that crop up ever 30 secs or so and
> are a real pain. they are acpi errors 1133 , 0295 and 0352. I have found
> threads that tell me that I should enter codes to turn ACPI off BUT I have
> no clue where to do this.
>


What are the codes and where are these "threads"? I'm willing to help.

> 2 I cannot find the correct screen setup for this machine. Its a sony vaio
> pcg 505ts. I've reloaded the os about six times now and I really am
> considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though in 64 mb it
> will suck.
>


Reloading? As in re-installing? And you expect it to mysteriously work after
the 6th time?

> if anyone can lend a hand and tell me which file to edit and anything else
> that might help me out I'd appreciate it. I am a linux noob and am making
> the leap from Windoze. Even using a command line editor is beyond me..


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Old 01-15-2008, 04:11 PM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't find correct screen settings

harry palmer wrote:

>
> "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
> news:5v4989F1kh3nhU1@mid.individual.net...
>> harry palmer wrote:
>>> 1 I get messages from the ACPI bios that crop up ever 30 secs or so and
>>> are
>>> a real pain. they are acpi errors 1133 , 0295 and 0352. I have found
>>> threads
>>> that tell me that I should enter codes to turn ACPI off BUT I have no
>>> clue
>>> where to do this.

>>
>> You can disable the ACPI in the boot loader.
>>
>> Even if this one is for RHEL, it's the same for other distributions too.
>>

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/e...-bootopts.html
>>
>> To turn off acpi, add the following to the boot options
>>
>> noacpi
>>
>> if you use lilo, you will need to reinstall it to the MBR avter you made
>> changes in lilo.conf. (using grub, you don't have to do anything than
>> edit the
>> grub.conf)
>>
>>
>>> 2 I cannot find the correct screen setup for this machine. Its a sony
>>> vaio
>>> pcg 505ts. I've reloaded the os about six times now and I really am
>>> considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though in 64 mb it
>>> will
>>> suck.

>>
>> Not sure, but maybe your laptop is somewhat similar to the z505sx, then
>> you
>> see how your xorg.conf should look like at this location:
>> http://www.themoes.org/linux/vaio
>>
>>
>>> if anyone can lend a hand and tell me which file to edit and anything
>>> else
>>> that might help me out I'd appreciate it. I am a linux noob and am
>>> making the leap from Windoze. Even using a command line editor is beyond
>>> me..

>>
>> Should tell you that laptops are the most difficult machines to install
>> Linux
>> on, this much for the specification of the hardware is quite unknown and
>> the
>> hardware manufacturers in China who makes all them, don't release the
>> information.
>>
>> There is install howtos at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html
>> You can look for machines with similar hardware and check up what may be
>> difficult and get tips, even if the howto write did use another
>> distribution.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> //Aho

>
> once again you are there to help poor saps like me out. I found the link
> for the z505 BUT am stuck as to how to apply the changes given that I
> can't see the screen. I'll put the drive back AGAIN in the compaq and give
> it a shot. I'm a little pissed though as Ubuntu loaded seamlessly but
> struggles to work in 64mb ram, I'll keep plugging away as I'm learning
> lots as I do it. Thanks again for helping me out.


You have to realize that the kernel in DSL is version 2.4 and the kernel in
Ubuntu is a version 2.6... There's going to be a lot that the 2.6 kernel
will do for your vaio, that a 2.4 isn't.

DSL was designed for SMALL installations... low power, low storage...
Completely opposite of what Ubuntu is all about.





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Old 01-15-2008, 04:30 PM
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"Jerry McBride" <jmcbride@mail-on.us> wrote in message
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> harry palmer wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>>
>> I have managed to get the drive back in the Sony vaio after loading a
>> fresh
>> copy of DSL BUT all is not well.
>>

>
> I like DSL and use it with one of my bootable USB sticks as an emergency
> rescue device... Windows users are amazed...
>
>> 1 I get messages from the ACPI bios that crop up ever 30 secs or so and
>> are a real pain. they are acpi errors 1133 , 0295 and 0352. I have found
>> threads that tell me that I should enter codes to turn ACPI off BUT I
>> have
>> no clue where to do this.
>>

>
> What are the codes and where are these "threads"? I'm willing to help.



Hey Jerry

This guy had exactly the same problem BUT I can't post or ask questions on
the site, I have a username and can log in but it won't let me do anything
so I can't progress it myself. Any help you can give would be great.

http://****smalllinux.org/cgi-bin/fo...nt;f=5;t=19327

I am figuring that this functionality is the same as the olden days
autoexecute.bat and config.sys stuff. The problem here is that I don't know
what files to change and how to do the changes...



>
>> 2 I cannot find the correct screen setup for this machine. Its a sony
>> vaio
>> pcg 505ts. I've reloaded the os about six times now and I really am
>> considering giving up on DSL and loading Ubuntu even though in 64 mb it
>> will suck.
>>

>
> Reloading? As in re-installing? And you expect it to mysteriously work
> after
> the 6th time?


Yep, the issue is that I have to remove the Vaio drive, shove it in a Compaq
( 2.5 to 3.5 converter) load DSL from scratch, put it back in the Vaio, try
another screen resolution have it fail and do it all over again. You see
once the resolution is wrong I can't see anything thus I can't edit
anything. ALSO the acpi messages keep booting in and screwing up the little
display I have

>
>> if anyone can lend a hand and tell me which file to edit and anything
>> else
>> that might help me out I'd appreciate it. I am a linux noob and am making
>> the leap from Windoze. Even using a command line editor is beyond me..


As I say. I am fresh out of the windows experience and wanting to make the
leap, the vaio is the only machine that I can use right now for this and has
only 64mb ram and a 4gb hard drive. I know it can be loaded with DSL as it's
EXACTLY the same machine that they use as an example in the OFFICIAL DSL
book http://www.amazon.com/Official-****-.../dp/0132338696 I
am really out on a limb here so any help you can give would be great.


>
> --
>
> Jerry McBride (jmcbride@mail-on.us)



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Old 01-16-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Sony vaio **** small linux install Acpi errors and can't findcorrect screen settings

harry palmer wrote:

> I found the link for
> the z505 BUT am stuck as to how to apply the changes given that I can't see
> the screen.


If you got the sshd running on the DSL, then you can connect to the machine
with putty and if you ave to move files to the (and scp/sftp is enabled on the
DSL), then you can use winscp to move files from the microsoft machine to the
laptop.

Yet another option is to run a LiveCD and from there mount the file system and
do the changes needed.

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"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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> harry palmer wrote:
>
>> I found the link for
>> the z505 BUT am stuck as to how to apply the changes given that I can't
>> see
>> the screen.

>
> If you got the sshd running on the DSL, then you can connect to the
> machine
> with putty and if you ave to move files to the (and scp/sftp is enabled on
> the
> DSL), then you can use winscp to move files from the microsoft machine to
> the
> laptop.
>
> Yet another option is to run a LiveCD and from there mount the file system
> and
> do the changes needed.
>
> --
>
> //Aho


hey aho

I finally gave in, it was too much trouble to work on DSL. I finally
reloaded win98 :-) ho hum, I gave it a shot
thanks for trying though.



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