Where I work it is necessary to be *totally* compatible with some various Microsoft office-type applications. I appreciate 'Open Office' and all, but some things just don't measure up (no editorials please). As a Linux newbie, what steps are necessary to install and operate various Microsoft programs in the Ubuntu OS? Thanks in Advance.

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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:51:36 -0700, Purple Haze wrote:
>
> Where I work it is necessary to be *totally* compatible with some
> various Microsoft office-type applications. I appreciate 'Open Office'
> and all, but some things just don't measure up (no editorials please).
> As a Linux newbie, what steps are necessary to install and operate
> various Microsoft programs in the Ubuntu OS? Thanks in Advance.

Many work well under wine:

http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php

If the ones you want do not, you'll have to run a virtual Windows
(VMware, Xen, etc.)

Bob T.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:51:36 -0700, Purple Haze wrote:

>
> Where I work it is necessary to be *totally* compatible with some
> various Microsoft office-type applications. I appreciate 'Open Office'
> and all, but some things just don't measure up (no editorials please).
> As a Linux newbie, what steps are necessary to install and operate
> various Microsoft programs in the Ubuntu OS? Thanks in Advance.

Install WINE and then install the software. If it works, it works - some
does; some does not.

In <Purple.Haze.2s0qq3@no-mx.tabletquestions.com>, on Mon, 11 Jun 2007
07:51:36 -0700, Purple Haze wrote:
>
> Where I work it is necessary to be *totally* compatible with some
> various Microsoft office-type applications. I appreciate 'Open Office'
> and all, but some things just don't measure up (no editorials please).
> As a Linux newbie, what steps are necessary to install and operate
> various Microsoft programs in the Ubuntu OS? Thanks in Advance.

http://www.codeweavers.com/ might be your answer.
It comes with a 30 or 60 day trial period on Xandros,
but you can buy and install it on Ubuntu as well.

> http://www.codeweavers.com/ might be your answer.
> It comes with a 30 or 60 day trial period on Xandros,
> but you can buy and install it on Ubuntu as well.

Don't you think the "Supporting Wine" logo at the bottom right, is
because they use some Wine's source code ?

So why so you need to pay for something you can have for free and under
LGPL license ?

abelenda wrote:

>
>> http://www.codeweavers.com/ might be your answer.
>> It comes with a 30 or 60 day trial period on Xandros,
>> but you can buy and install it on Ubuntu as well.
>
> Don't you think the "Supporting Wine" logo at the bottom right, is
> because they use some Wine's source code ?
>
> So why so you need to pay for something you can have for free and under
> LGPL license ?

Because it's not 100% the same.

WINE strives to be correct in it's Win32 implementation. That means that
unlike codeweaver they won't implement certain tricks/hacks to get a
specific application to work.

Plus there is the fact that if Codeweaver says a certain application will
run, it will run. If it doesn't, you got someone you can call and bitch at
for support.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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君のこと忘れたときがないから

In <1181633801_2403@sicinfo3.epfl.ch>, on Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:36:41
+0200, abelenda wrote:
>
>> http://www.codeweavers.com/ might be your answer.
>> It comes with a 30 or 60 day trial period on Xandros,
>> but you can buy and install it on Ubuntu as well.
>
> Don't you think the "Supporting Wine" logo at the bottom right, is
> because they use some Wine's source code ?
>
> So why so you need to pay for something you can have for free and under
> LGPL license ?

Because codeweavers will run programs that wine won't.

Personally, I have no use for either wine or
codeweavers. I've never owned Windows, thus, have no
M$ware to run under them (though I did download Free
Agent once to see what all the fuss was about, which
does run under wine).

However, if I were in the OP's spot where he says he
"needs certain MS office apps to work," then I might
try wine first, and if that was a no-go, then I might
try codeweavers. Just giving another option.

abelenda writes:
> Don't you think the "Supporting Wine" logo at the bottom right, is
> because they use some Wine's source code ?

It's the other way around.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

On Jun 11, 9:51 am, Purple Haze <deanha...@mail.unomaha.edu> wrote:
> Where I work it is necessary to be *totally* compatible with some
> various Microsoft office-type applications. I appreciate 'Open Office'
> and all, but some things just don't measure up (no editorials please).
> As a Linux newbie, what steps are necessary to install and operate
> various Microsoft programs in the Ubuntu OS? Thanks in Advance.
>
> --
> Purple Haze

Win4Lin is another way to go--- you need a copy of Windows to install,
but then you can run MS-Windows in a window in linux, the entire
Windows OS is actually installed in your Linux filesystem and runs
from within Linux. It is quite bizarre to see a resizable window
containing MS-Windows, and that you can restart in about two seconds.

On 2007-06-12, abelenda <diego.abelenda@epfl.ch> rambled on thusly:

>> http://www.codeweavers.com/ might be your answer.
>> It comes with a 30 or 60 day trial period on Xandros,
>> but you can buy and install it on Ubuntu as well.

> Don't you think the "Supporting Wine" logo at the bottom right, is
> because they use some Wine's source code ?

> So why so you need to pay for something you can have for free and under
> LGPL license ?

Product support. Application testing. Packaging. Ease of installation.
Codeweavers adds a lot to their Crossover packages that one does not get in
wine. You can choose to use either one, of course. Use wine, and try and
figure out how to get everything running, and figure out what's breaking
when something doesn't work. Or pay for Crossover, and know that you can
"easily" set up and run the supported apps.

There is nothing inherently wrong with a company making money from
open-source software, after all.

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On 2007-06-11, Purple Haze <deanhayes@mail.unomaha.edu> wrote:
>
> Where I work it is necessary to be *totally* compatible with some
> various Microsoft office-type applications. I appreciate 'Open Office'
> and all, but some things just don't measure up (no editorials please).
> As a Linux newbie, what steps are necessary to install and operate
> various Microsoft programs in the Ubuntu OS? Thanks in Advance.

I think you are setting yourself up for too many problems. If you need
'total' compatability with microsoft products you would be better to
run a microsoft os as well. This way you are productive _immediately_.

Make some bigger changes in your workplace and _totally_ switch to
Linux and you will be _more_ productive immediately :-)

Andrew


--
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http://people.aapt.net.au/~adjlstrong/dapper.html

"andrew" illuminated the devil's arse by typing:

> > Where I work it is necessary to be *totally* compatible with some
> > various Microsoft office-type applications. I appreciate 'Open
> > Office' and all, but some things just don't measure up (no
> > editorials please). As a Linux newbie, what steps are necessary to
> > install and operate various Microsoft programs in the Ubuntu OS?
> > Thanks in Advance.

Virtualisation works for me.

www.virtualbox.org
www.vmware.com

A little more difficult to set up
www.fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu

Basically, you can run an installation of windows from within linux. A
must for me because of the backwards accountancy package my company
uses.

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."

On Jun 12, 4:08 pm, Moog <efcm...******.com> wrote:
> Virtualisation works for me.
> www.virtualbox.orgwww.vmware.com

Have you, or anybody here, been able to get audio to work with vmware?
I could not. No audio, nada, with Windows XP run using vmware. Other
geeks I know reported similiar issues with vmware.

"beowulf@ancients.net" illuminated the devil's arse by typing:

> Have you, or anybody here, been able to get audio to work with
> vmware? I could not. No audio, nada, with Windows XP run using
> vmware. Other geeks I know reported similiar issues with vmware.

I'm currently running VirtualBox with no audio problems.

I did have Audio operating from within VMWare with both Solaris and
WinXP as guests. IIRC, I had to re-install the audio driver within the
guest XP. Solaris worked with the ALSA driver.

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."

On 2007-06-14, beowulf@ancients.net <r.oelerich******.com> rambled on thusly:

> Have you, or anybody here, been able to get audio to work with vmware?
> I could not. No audio, nada, with Windows XP run using vmware. Other
> geeks I know reported similiar issues with vmware.

Yeah, I have audio running with no problems on a Windows 2000 vm which I
access through the free VMPlayer. I wish I could give you details on what I
did, but there aren't any. I installed vmplayer, fired up the VM, and sound
Just Worked.

I am using Ubuntu (currently Feisty Fawn, but it worked in Edgy and Dapper,
too).

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