STUX web site:
http://gpstudio.com/stux/

Until mirrors will be updates, only Bittorrent is available.

Stux Linux Club enlightened us with:
> STUX web site:
> http://gpstudio.com/stux/

What is it? Why should we be interested?

Sybren
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Jun 6: Responding to Sybren Stuvel...

>
>
> Stux Linux Club enlightened us with:
>> STUX web site:
>> http://gpstudio.com/stux/
>
> What is it? Why should we be interested?
>
> Sybren
>

First impressions, its Linux, its Slackware based, its a
run-from-cdrom OS, it looks as if someone has made the
effort to make something fast and snazzy, all of which which
has to be good things, right? :)

I'm going to grab'n'burn a copy and have a play.

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Jun 6: Responding to myself...

[...]
>> Stux Linux Club enlightened us with:
>>> STUX web site:
>>> http://gpstudio.com/stux/
>>
>> What is it? Why should we be interested?
>>
>> Sybren
>>
>
> First impressions, its Linux, its Slackware based, its a
> run-from-cdrom OS, it looks as if someone has made the
> effort to make something fast and snazzy, all of which which
> has to be good things, right? :)
>
> I'm going to grab'n'burn a copy and have a play.
>

Correction. No I'm not. Download page won't work in a
text-only browser, and the forum is reliant on Javascript.

Not a good start. I'm now suspecting STUX is another Puppy
Linux type of project, interesting and amusing, but
essentially another Mini-Windows thing. This is all I need
to be put off.

Unlike

http://www.slax.org

Which is more in keeping with the Slackware concept IMO.

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Mike wrote:

> Correction. No I'm not. Download page won't work in a
> text-only browser, and the forum is reliant on Javascript.
>
> Not a good start. I'm now suspecting STUX is another Puppy Linux type of
> project, interesting and amusing, but essentially another Mini-Windows
> thing. This is all I need to be put off.

In kernel enable "Kernel support for MISC binaries", and in /etc/sysctl.conf
fs.binfmt_misc.register = :WINEXE:M::MZ::/usr/bin/wine:
and in /etc/fstab
none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc defaults 0 0
Then use a microsoft theme on the dekstop environment and install a load of
closed source applications and you have a boring microsoft using Linux.

I reallyt hope it won't be like that on all "popular" distros in a couple of
years.


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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:53:28 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote:

> Stux Linux Club enlightened us with:
>> STUX web site:
>> http://gpstudio.com/stux/
>
> What is it? Why should we be interested?
>
> Sybren

It is another distro. You don't have to be interested. Maybe they should
post to comp.os.linux.announce and get a warmer welcome.

stonerfish

Jun 6: Responding to J.O. Aho...

>
>
> Mike wrote:
>
>> Correction. No I'm not. Download page won't work in a
>> text-only browser, and the forum is reliant on Javascript.
>>
>> Not a good start. I'm now suspecting STUX is another Puppy Linux type of
>> project, interesting and amusing, but essentially another Mini-Windows
>> thing. This is all I need to be put off.
>
> In kernel enable "Kernel support for MISC binaries", and in /etc/sysctl.conf
> fs.binfmt_misc.register = :WINEXE:M::MZ::/usr/bin/wine:
> and in /etc/fstab
> none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc defaults 0 0
> Then use a microsoft theme on the dekstop environment and install a load of
> closed source applications and you have a boring microsoft using Linux.
>
> I reallyt hope it won't be like that on all "popular" distros in a couple of
> years.
>

Given that the world is full of people already "trained" to
expect a certain type of interface, its inevitable that
those who produce Windows clone releases will gain the
interest of those so far not prepared top learn their way
out of "Click here" dependancy.

Or, IOW, I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. :(

IMO, FWIW, if there is an interest in attracting disgruntled
MicroSerfs over to something else, then some kind of at
least introductory Linux thing would make some sense,
including a touch of that hand-holding M$ users are used to.

What? Oh, right. KDE. ;)

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Mike wrote:

> IMO, FWIW, if there is an interest in attracting disgruntled
> MicroSerfs over to something else, then some kind of at
> least introductory Linux thing would make some sense,
> including a touch of that hand-holding M$ users are used to.

Ubuntu doesn't do a bad job of demystifying Linux for Windows (l)users.
When you consider that a Windows user probably won't have ever /installed/
an operating system (they still insist it came "free" with their computer),
the idea of a complete installation is probably quite scary. That's why
the Dell Ubuntu initiative is to be applauded.

> What? Oh, right. KDE. ;)

8-) - kde is still far enough away from Windows to worry some people!

Chris

Mike wrote:

> IMO, FWIW, if there is an interest in attracting disgruntled
> MicroSerfs over to something else, then some kind of at
> least introductory Linux thing would make some sense,
> including a touch of that hand-holding M$ users are used to.

I do really fear that that will become too much, to make a MS/Linux where you
have only the config applications native Linux and the rest native microsoft.
That could give a bad reputation for Linux if wine won't be able to run all
the ms applications.


> What? Oh, right. KDE. ;)
>
I guess you meant Gnome2, deves thinks that end-users are stupid, feels so
microsoftic. :)


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Jun 7: Responding to J.O. Aho...

>
>
> Mike wrote:
>
>> IMO, FWIW, if there is an interest in attracting disgruntled
>> MicroSerfs over to something else, then some kind of at
>> least introductory Linux thing would make some sense,
>> including a touch of that hand-holding M$ users are used to.
>
> I do really fear that that will become too much, to make a MS/Linux where you
> have only the config applications native Linux and the rest native microsoft.
> That could give a bad reputation for Linux if wine won't be able to run all
> the ms applications.
>
>
>> What? Oh, right. KDE. ;)
>>
> I guess you meant Gnome2, deves thinks that end-users are stupid, feels so
> microsoftic. :)

Hooooo boy! That reminds me of one of my occasional
adventures in the world of FreeBSD. I spent a few evenings
trying to figure out where they'd buried MC, only to find
that they didn't even consider it anything more than a
curiosity, to be dumped in some "extras" directory on a
second CDROM (or something, I forget now).

"My god!" I questioned the FreeBSD NG, "Do you guys
actually LIKE continually typing the same commandline
instructions over and over? Do you not get the point of
reducing keystroke related RSI by using a file manager like
MC?"

Apparently they do like typing.

I didn't bother asking them why they have minimal provision
of productive commandline tools, but then used Gnome as the
default WM. ;)

I've been Slacking ever since.


P.S. On the comment about Gnome2 devs, there are AFAIK at
least two developments of MC, one that got "Gnomed", and
then pulled back a bit, and an alternative "lets do this
again, huh?" AMC (Advanced Midnight Commander) that I think
is now called "MC Lite" or similar.

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Jun 7: Responding to Christopher Hunter...

>
>
> Mike wrote:
>
>> IMO, FWIW, if there is an interest in attracting disgruntled
>> MicroSerfs over to something else, then some kind of at
>> least introductory Linux thing would make some sense,
>> including a touch of that hand-holding M$ users are used to.
>
> Ubuntu doesn't do a bad job of demystifying Linux for Windows (l)users.
> When you consider that a Windows user probably won't have ever /installed/
> an operating system (they still insist it came "free" with their computer),
> the idea of a complete installation is probably quite scary. That's why
> the Dell Ubuntu initiative is to be applauded.
>
>> What? Oh, right. KDE. ;)
>
> 8-) - kde is still far enough away from Windows to worry some people!
>
> Chris
>

There will come a day when the only thing Windows users will
see is a huge spinning flashing hypnotic button that says
"Click me!" That will be the only control they have, and
they will be happy with it.

Or am I just being cynical here? ;)

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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:09:14 +0000, Mike wrote:

<snip>

> "My god!" I questioned the FreeBSD NG, "Do you guys
> actually LIKE continually typing the same commandline
> instructions over and over? Do you not get the point of
> reducing keystroke related RSI by using a file manager like
> MC?"

I guess you've never heard of "tab-completion", or "bash-history", eh?

MC is for sissies and n00bs.

--
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Mike said:
>
> There will come a day when the only thing Windows users will
> see is a huge spinning flashing hypnotic button that says
> "Click me!" That will be the only control they have, and
> they will be happy with it.

Reminds me of their new computing table:
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

Watch where you place your credit card - it'll be the newest means
to rob your personal data. Next thing MS will try to patent will be
the word "surface" (they have 'windows' now).

> Or am I just being cynical here? ;)

Not hardly enough - welcome to Bregna (Aeon Flux).
--
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http://goodbye-microsoft.com/

"J.O. Aho" illuminated the devil's arse by typing:

> I guess you meant Gnome2, deves thinks that end-users are stupid,
> feels so microsoftic. :)

Heh. A popular misconception. There's plenty of power and
configurability (sp? - configurableness?) in the Gnome Configuration
Editor.

Now then....
man gconf-editor

"This tool allows you to directly edit your configuration
database. This is not the recommended way of setting desktop
preferences. Use this tool at your own risk."

It does sound like something MS would write.

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Quest for trolls..."

Jun 7: Responding to sk8r-365...

>
>
> Mike said:
>>
>> There will come a day when the only thing Windows users will
>> see is a huge spinning flashing hypnotic button that says
>> "Click me!" That will be the only control they have, and
>> they will be happy with it.
>
> Reminds me of their new computing table:
> http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

The idea nobody ever placed in a cafe in the 80s?

> Watch where you place your credit card - it'll be the newest means
> to rob your personal data. Next thing MS will try to patent will be
> the word "surface" (they have 'windows' now).
>
>> Or am I just being cynical here? ;)
>
> Not hardly enough - welcome to Bregna (Aeon Flux).

Are we still able to use the word "cynical"? Should we slap
a GNU licence on the word while we still can?

I'm joking, but M$/IBM/? will not be. 8(

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