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This just in!...

Microsoft Redesigns MSN Portal
<QP>
The redesign, which has been in the works for months, bears quite a
bit of resemblance to the one that Microsoft had been testing in
France.

Microsoft late Tuesday began rolling out the new MSN home page
[ http://preview.msn.com/ ], which it says will become widely
available in the U.S. early in 2010.

With its new look, the home page has about half as many links as the
previous incarnation, focusing instead on a few categories, such as
video, news, shopping, and search.

The old site had dozens of text links at the top and bottom of the
page for everything from horoscopes to white pages to a free trial of
MSN's dial-up Internet service.

The company has, in the past, tried to make changes that its users saw
as too radical, such as a 2007 overhaul of Hotmail that the company
was forced to significantly scale back. Visse said he isn't as worried
about that, given that users were already complaining that the site
was both dated and overstuffed with links.

"We were, frankly, at a point where customers are complaining about
the clutter," he said.

Microsoft is also trying to tap into the popularity of social
networks, adding a column on the right-hand side that lets users peek
at their Windows Live, Twitter, and Facebook feeds, and even update
their status or post a tweet. As before, users can also see a preview
of their Hotmail in-box.

But it will take its time in jumping on the Web apps bandwagon, with
plans to offer several Silverlight-based apps on the right-hand side
of the redesigned page at a later date. In the past, MSN users have
not customized their pages to a large degree, and so Microsoft is
going to take a wait-and-see approach before it decides whether it
will roll out more apps than the Windows Live, Twitter, and Facebook
apps available at launch...
</QP>
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10389587-265.html


On Oct 23, 8:19*pm, winston wrote:
> Could be regional or a localized server issue or intermittent.
>
> Tried with three Live ID's. One never used for Hotmail, one third party email address registered as a Live ID(no Hotmail account),
> and finally one with an extensively used Hotmail account at both My.msn.com and Home.live.com
>
> They all load the My.Msn.com and Home.live.com page, but last Live ID's Hotmail content module was not updated (My.msn.com) nor is
> the Custom Details option available, yet the four options(compose, inbox,contacts, and calendar all redirect properly)...same
> results with IE6 on XP, IE7 Vista, IE8 Win7... All IE's(begrudgingly <g>)were set to default security settings prior to access.
>
> If I navigate while still signed on with that same Hotmail account Live ID to Home.live.com, the Mail status shows 'Your inbox is
> empty right now' when in fact accessing the Inbox shows 6 messages.
>
> Lol...Returning to either page (my.msn.com or home.live.com) without signing off, yields acceptable results...everything updated
> and accessible. Go figure.
>
> Fyi...
> *My.Live.com (which refers to the modules as gadgets) and more user configurable for controlling content(tabs called pages are used
> for different subject categories) functioned without issue for Hotmail and other gadgets(News, Sports, Weather, iTunes)
>
> "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
>> FYI: I have a Windows Live ID, but have never used Hotmail and have the same issue. Apparently, it is not just a Hotmail user
>> problem.
<SNIP>

Also see http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...SNPreview.mspx
(Thanks, Bruce!)

On Nov 5, 10:53*am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
> [x-post to IE General]
>
> This just in!...
>
> Microsoft Redesigns MSN Portal
> <QP>
> The redesign, which has been in the works for months, bears quite a
> bit of resemblance to the one that Microsoft had been testing in
> France.
>
> Microsoft late Tuesday began rolling out the new MSN home page
> [http://preview.msn.com/], which it says will become widely
> available in the U.S. early in 2010.
>
> With its new look, the home page has about half as many links as the
> previous incarnation, focusing instead on a few categories, such as
> video, news, shopping, and search.
>
> The old site had dozens of text links at the top and bottom of the
> page for everything from horoscopes to white pages to a free trial of
> MSN's dial-up Internet service.
>
> The company has, in the past, tried to make changes that its users saw
> as too radical, such as a 2007 overhaul of Hotmail that the company
> was forced to significantly scale back. Visse said he isn't as worried
> about that, given that users were already complaining that the site
> was both dated and overstuffed with links.
>
> "We were, frankly, at a point where customers are complaining about
> the clutter," he said.
>
> Microsoft is also trying to tap into the popularity of social
> networks, adding a column on the right-hand side that lets users peek
> at their Windows Live, Twitter, and Facebook feeds, and even update
> their status or post a tweet. As before, users can also see a preview
> of their Hotmail in-box.
>
> But it will take its time in jumping on the Web apps bandwagon, with
> plans to offer several Silverlight-based apps on the right-hand side
> of the redesigned page at a later date. In the past, MSN users have
> not customized their pages to a large degree, and so Microsoft is
> going to take a wait-and-see approach before it decides whether it
> will roll out more apps than the Windows Live, Twitter, and Facebook
> apps available at launch...
> </QP>
> Source:http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10389587-265.html
<snip>

Meanwhile.............

The Top Personalized Start Pages
Which Custom Home Page Is Right For You?
http://webtrends.about.com/od/person...tart-Pages.htm
--
~Bruce


"PA Bear, MS MVP" <pabearmvp******.com> wrote in message
news:3ebc090a-43a1-4128-877e-a3ee4b3e422a@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Also see
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...SNPreview.mspx
(Thanks, Bruce!)

On Nov 5, 10:53 am, "PA Bear, MS MVP" wrote:
> [x-post to IE General]
>
> This just in!...
>
> Microsoft Redesigns MSN Portal
> <QP>
> The redesign, which has been in the works for months, bears quite a
> bit of resemblance to the one that Microsoft had been testing in
> France.
>
> Microsoft late Tuesday began rolling out the new MSN home page
> [http://preview.msn.com/], which it says will become widely
> available in the U.S. early in 2010.
>
> With its new look, the home page has about half as many links as the
> previous incarnation, focusing instead on a few categories, such as
> video, news, shopping, and search.
>
> The old site had dozens of text links at the top and bottom of the
> page for everything from horoscopes to white pages to a free trial of
> MSN's dial-up Internet service.
>
> The company has, in the past, tried to make changes that its users saw
> as too radical, such as a 2007 overhaul of Hotmail that the company
> was forced to significantly scale back. Visse said he isn't as worried
> about that, given that users were already complaining that the site
> was both dated and overstuffed with links.
>
> "We were, frankly, at a point where customers are complaining about
> the clutter," he said.
>
> Microsoft is also trying to tap into the popularity of social
> networks, adding a column on the right-hand side that lets users peek
> at their Windows Live, Twitter, and Facebook feeds, and even update
> their status or post a tweet. As before, users can also see a preview
> of their Hotmail in-box.
>
> But it will take its time in jumping on the Web apps bandwagon, with
> plans to offer several Silverlight-based apps on the right-hand side
> of the redesigned page at a later date. In the past, MSN users have
> not customized their pages to a large degree, and so Microsoft is
> going to take a wait-and-see approach before it decides whether it
> will roll out more apps than the Windows Live, Twitter, and Facebook
> apps available at launch...
> </QP>
> Source:http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10389587-265.html
<snip>

Any news about an upgrade to my.msn.com?

Nothing mentioned in the press pass or the preview.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...SNPreview.mspx

http://preview.msn.com/

After sign on with a Live ID at the latter, click on Settings, MyMsn is an option.
- at this end it loaded the same MyMsn page that I've seen for quite some time(still retaining my personalized
settings)...nothing new.


--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net> wrote in message news:uw96cHlXKHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Any news about an upgrade to my.msn.com?
>
>

Have you read any of the other replies posted today?

bobster wrote:
> Any news about an upgrade to my.msn.com?

Yes, PA, I have. Apparently you don't know the difference between msn.com
and my.msn.com. They are two completely different things and all of the
previous postings referred only to msn.com. I was (am) interested in
whether there will also be changes in my.msn.com as well as msn.com. Your
constant confrontational tone gets wearing.

<kindly> Your snipping the quoted conversation in your replies gets wearing,
too, my friend. Who knows to what or to whom you're referring when you do
that?

bobster wrote:
> Yes, PA, I have. Apparently you don't know the difference between
> msn.com
> and my.msn.com. They are two completely different things and all of the
> previous postings referred only to msn.com. I was (am) interested in
> whether there will also be changes in my.msn.com as well as msn.com. Your
> constant confrontational tone gets wearing.

Touche, Bear
I had unchecked "include message in reply" as that is my normal mode in
personal emails, but I forget to re-enable it for this board. Sorry about
that.

================================================== ======
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
news:eNTJAamXKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
<kindly> Your snipping the quoted conversation in your replies gets wearing,
too, my friend. Who knows to what or to whom you're referring when you do
that?

bobster wrote:
> Yes, PA, I have. Apparently you don't know the difference between
> msn.com
> and my.msn.com. They are two completely different things and all of the
> previous postings referred only to msn.com. I was (am) interested in
> whether there will also be changes in my.msn.com as well as msn.com. Your
> constant confrontational tone gets wearing.

Posted earlier in this thread.....regarding mymsn.com, nothing new at this end.
The only recent info was posted by Bruce H in this forum on an inability to access support request that yield a 'yes we're aware of
it, unsure when resolution will occur'. Nothing about upgrading my.msn nor have I seen anything released elsewhere.


--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net> wrote in message news:eFGCowmXKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Touche, Bear
> I had unchecked "include message in reply" as that is my normal mode in
> personal emails, but I forget to re-enable it for this board. Sorry about
> that.
>
> ================================================== ======
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
> news:eNTJAamXKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> <kindly> Your snipping the quoted conversation in your replies gets wearing,
> too, my friend. Who knows to what or to whom you're referring when you do
> that?
>
> bobster wrote:
>> Yes, PA, I have. Apparently you don't know the difference between
>> msn.com
>> and my.msn.com. They are two completely different things and all of the
>> previous postings referred only to msn.com. I was (am) interested in
>> whether there will also be changes in my.msn.com as well as msn.com. Your
>> constant confrontational tone gets wearing.
>
>

Thanks, Winston.

I've used my.msn.com for many years and have it nicely customized to my
needs. I hope they don't screw it up or decide to eliminate it in favor of
the new msn.com configuration.

================================================== ======
"...winston" <winstonmvp******.com> wrote in message
news:uLTXWBqXKHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Posted earlier in this thread.....regarding mymsn.com, nothing new at this
end.
The only recent info was posted by Bruce H in this forum on an inability to
access support request that yield a 'yes we're aware of
it, unsure when resolution will occur'. Nothing about upgrading my.msn nor
have I seen anything released elsewhere.


--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:eFGCowmXKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Touche, Bear
> I had unchecked "include message in reply" as that is my normal mode in
> personal emails, but I forget to re-enable it for this board. Sorry about
> that.
>
> ================================================== ======
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
> news:eNTJAamXKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> <kindly> Your snipping the quoted conversation in your replies gets
> wearing,
> too, my friend. Who knows to what or to whom you're referring when you do
> that?
>
> bobster wrote:
>> Yes, PA, I have. Apparently you don't know the difference between
>> msn.com
>> and my.msn.com. They are two completely different things and all of the
>> previous postings referred only to msn.com. I was (am) interested in
>> whether there will also be changes in my.msn.com as well as msn.com.
>> Your
>> constant confrontational tone gets wearing.
>
>

Posted earlier, I made the Pageflakes option here about 90% similar to my
customized My MSN. I will use it until, and if, the My MSN issue is
resolved.

The Top Personalized Start Pages
Which Custom Home Page Is Right For You?
http://webtrends.about.com/od/person...tart-Pages.htm
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net> wrote in message
news:uSLqsTqXKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Thanks, Winston.
>
> I've used my.msn.com for many years and have it nicely customized to my
> needs. I hope they don't screw it up or decide to eliminate it in favor
> of
> the new msn.com configuration.
>
> ================================================== ======
> "...winston" <winstonmvp******.com> wrote in message
> news:uLTXWBqXKHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Posted earlier in this thread.....regarding mymsn.com, nothing new at this
> end.
> The only recent info was posted by Bruce H in this forum on an inability
> to
> access support request that yield a 'yes we're aware of
> it, unsure when resolution will occur'. Nothing about upgrading my.msn
> nor
> have I seen anything released elsewhere.
>
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net> wrote in message
> news:eFGCowmXKHA.844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Touche, Bear
>> I had unchecked "include message in reply" as that is my normal mode in
>> personal emails, but I forget to re-enable it for this board. Sorry
>> about
>> that.
>>
>> ================================================== ======
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
>> news:eNTJAamXKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> <kindly> Your snipping the quoted conversation in your replies gets
>> wearing,
>> too, my friend. Who knows to what or to whom you're referring when you
>> do
>> that?
>>
>> bobster wrote:
>>> Yes, PA, I have. Apparently you don't know the difference between
>>> msn.com
>>> and my.msn.com. They are two completely different things and all of the
>>> previous postings referred only to msn.com. I was (am) interested in
>>> whether there will also be changes in my.msn.com as well as msn.com.
>>> Your
>>> constant confrontational tone gets wearing.
>>
>>
>
>

I can tell you exactly what the problem is. If you block ads in any
way shape or form that is when your page goes bye-bye. I've looked up
the problem in several different places and some of the suggestions of
turning off ad blockers seems to work. Make of that what you will.

Well, it was a good thought, but no go. I have been using this Hosts file:
(http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm) for a few months because the
advertisement on My MSN was eating up CPUs. All was well until October 23. I
removed the Hosts file program and rebooted. My MSN is still not available
and I have no other programs that come close to blocking ads.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"doctorindyj" <doctorindyj******.com> wrote in message
news:b03ae284-4566-462c-b40f-be0e336867ed@z3g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>I can tell you exactly what the problem is. If you block ads in any
> way shape or form that is when your page goes bye-bye. I've looked up
> the problem in several different places and some of the suggestions of
> turning off ad blockers seems to work. Make of that what you will.

Scrutinize Add/Remove Programs including updates for Windows PowerShell. It
was offered a few weeks ago in Windows/Microsoft Updates.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv.../download.mspx

I just removed it and rebooted. My MSN is back. Fix, or coincidence? I don't
know and I don't care.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA