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| Will I be happy with IE8 I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy with jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says "Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this box. -- Mike H |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To start IE7 in No Add-ons mode: => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without Add-ons; or => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet Explorer (No add-ons). Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running in the background when you installed IE7 and/or SP3? 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com Mike H wrote: > I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy with > jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web > sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says > "Internet > Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". > I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. > > So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of > resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this > box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs it down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? See, I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if IE7 might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add features which will only slow me down more. To answer your questions: The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it at will by going to: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the site, but not so this one. 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd party firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software running at all, including AV 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To start > IE7 in No Add-ons mode: > > => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without > Add-ons; or > > => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet > Explorer (No add-ons). > > Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: > http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx > > 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! > > 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your > subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware > applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? > Were any of these applications running in the background when you installed > IE7 and/or SP3? > > 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this > machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought > it)? > > > Mike H wrote: >> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy with >> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web >> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >> "Internet >> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". >> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >> >> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this >> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 "Mike H" <mkREMOVEhuskeyALL@THIShotmail.invalid> wrote in message news:uprptpuruj4q$.10aeogse4czu3$.dlg@40tude.net.. . > PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older > machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs it > down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so > with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? See, > I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if IE7 > might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add > features > which will only slow me down more. > > To answer your questions: > > The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it > at > will by going to: > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ > and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" > (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) > On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the > site, > but not so this one. Why do I receive an "Operation aborted" error message when I visit a Web page in Internet Explorer? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 How do I fix this problem? <quote> The easiest way for you to fix the problem is to upgrade to Internet Explorer 8. This problem no longer occurs in Internet Explorer 8. </quote> Good luck, Donald Anadell > > 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. > > 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default > options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address > bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. > > 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd party > firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software > running at all, including AV > > 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >> start >> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >> >> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >> Add-ons; or >> >> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >> Explorer (No add-ons). >> >> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >> >> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >> >> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >> installed >> IE7 and/or SP3? >> >> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this >> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >> bought >> it)? >> >> >> Mike H wrote: >>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>> with >>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web >>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>> "Internet >>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". >>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>> >>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this >>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 [Nice catch!] Donald Anadell wrote: > "Mike H" <mkREMOVEhuskeyALL@THIShotmail.invalid> wrote in message > news:uprptpuruj4q$.10aeogse4czu3$.dlg@40tude.net.. . >> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs it >> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? See, >> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if >> IE7 >> might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >> features >> which will only slow me down more. >> >> To answer your questions: >> >> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it >> at >> will by going to: >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" >> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >> site, >> but not so this one. > > Why do I receive an "Operation aborted" error message when I visit a Web > page in Internet Explorer? > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 > > How do I fix this problem? > <quote> > The easiest way for you to fix the problem is to upgrade to Internet > Explorer 8. This problem no longer occurs in Internet Explorer 8. > </quote> > > Good luck, > > Donald Anadell > > >> >> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >> >> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default >> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >> >> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd party >> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >> running at all, including AV >> >> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>> start >>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>> >>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>> Add-ons; or >>> >>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>> >>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>> >>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>> >>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>> installed >>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>> >>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on >>> this >>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >>> bought >>> it)? >>> >>> >>> Mike H wrote: >>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>> with >>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web >>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>> "Internet >>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation >>>> Aborted". >>>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>> >>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on >>>> this >>>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. Mike H wrote: > PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older > machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs it > down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so > with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? See, > I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if IE7 > might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add > features > which will only slow me down more. > > To answer your questions: > > The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it > at > will by going to: > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ > and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" > (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) > On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the > site, > but not so this one. > > 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. > > 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default > options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address > bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. > > 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd party > firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software > running at all, including AV > > 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. > > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >> start >> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >> >> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >> Add-ons; or >> >> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >> Explorer (No add-ons). >> >> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >> >> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >> >> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >> installed >> IE7 and/or SP3? >> >> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this >> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >> bought >> it)? >> >> >> Mike H wrote: >>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>> with >>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web >>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>> "Internet >>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". >>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>> >>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this >>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 Well I appreciate what both of you have said. You're right on-IE7 has this child container problem which IE8 does not. I may or may not be interested in fixing that...it's really not much of a problem. What I was asking is if IE8 is a faster application than IE7 and if I'll be happy with it on this not-state-of-the-art machine. This question is hard to answer from reviews. Microsoft says it has a fast page load. Third parties say it's resource intensive but most of those reviews were against the betas. On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:00:21 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. > > Mike H wrote: >> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs it >> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? See, >> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if IE7 >> might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >> features >> which will only slow me down more. >> >> To answer your questions: >> >> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it >> at >> will by going to: >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" >> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >> site, >> but not so this one. >> >> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >> >> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default >> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >> >> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd party >> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >> running at all, including AV >> >> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>> start >>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>> >>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>> Add-ons; or >>> >>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>> >>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>> >>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>> >>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>> installed >>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>> >>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this >>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >>> bought >>> it)? >>> >>> >>> Mike H wrote: >>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>> with >>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web >>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>> "Internet >>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". >>>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>> >>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this >>>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 "Mike H" <mkREMOVEhuskeyALL@THIShotmail.invalid> wrote in message news:166q3vnz7lgcq$.1n7xt8m4ofl1q.dlg@40tude.net.. . > Well I appreciate what both of you have said. You're right on-IE7 has this > child container problem which IE8 does not. I may or may not be interested > in fixing that...it's really not much of a problem. > > What I was asking is if IE8 is a faster application than IE7 and if I'll > be > happy with it on this not-state-of-the-art machine. This question is hard > to answer from reviews. Microsoft says it has a fast page load. Third > parties say it's resource intensive but most of those reviews were against > the betas. I don't think anyone posting here(including myself) can guarantee your happiness with IE8, or any other product for that matter. Why not test drive it yourself and draw you own conclusions. 1. If you meet the minimum System Requirements for installing IE8 on your machine, see: IE8 System Requirements: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/int...uirements.aspx 2. Then install it and see for yourself whether or not you are satisfied with it, see: Download IE8 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Also See: IE8 Release Notes: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/dd441788.aspx IE8 FAQ: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/int...pport/faq.aspx 3. If you are not satisfied with it then remove it, see: IE8 "How do I uninstall or remove Internet Explorer 8" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700 Good luck, Donald Anadell > > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:00:21 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > >> See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. >> >> Mike H wrote: >>> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >>> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs >>> it >>> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >>> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? >>> See, >>> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if >>> IE7 >>> might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >>> features >>> which will only slow me down more. >>> >>> To answer your questions: >>> >>> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it >>> at >>> will by going to: >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >>> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" >>> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >>> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >>> site, >>> but not so this one. >>> >>> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >>> >>> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default >>> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >>> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >>> >>> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd >>> party >>> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >>> running at all, including AV >>> >>> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>>> start >>>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>>> >>>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>>> Add-ons; or >>>> >>>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>>> >>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>>> >>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>>> >>>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if >>>> any)? >>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>>> installed >>>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>>> >>>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on >>>> this >>>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >>>> bought >>>> it)? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike H wrote: >>>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>>> with >>>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some >>>>> web >>>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>>> "Internet >>>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation >>>>> Aborted". >>>>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>>> >>>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on >>>>> this >>>>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 What Donald said. Mike H wrote: > Well I appreciate what both of you have said. You're right on-IE7 has this > child container problem which IE8 does not. I may or may not be interested > in fixing that...it's really not much of a problem. > > What I was asking is if IE8 is a faster application than IE7 and if I'll > be > happy with it on this not-state-of-the-art machine. This question is hard > to answer from reviews. Microsoft says it has a fast page load. Third > parties say it's resource intensive but most of those reviews were against > the betas. > > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:00:21 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > >> See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. >> >> Mike H wrote: >>> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >>> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs >>> it >>> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >>> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? >>> See, >>> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if >>> IE7 >>> might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >>> features >>> which will only slow me down more. >>> >>> To answer your questions: >>> >>> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it >>> at >>> will by going to: >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >>> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" >>> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >>> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >>> site, >>> but not so this one. >>> >>> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >>> >>> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default >>> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >>> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >>> >>> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd >>> party >>> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >>> running at all, including AV >>> >>> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>>> start >>>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>>> >>>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>>> Add-ons; or >>>> >>>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>>> >>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>>> >>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>>> >>>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if >>>> any)? >>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>>> installed >>>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>>> >>>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on >>>> this >>>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >>>> bought >>>> it)? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike H wrote: >>>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>>> with >>>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some >>>>> web >>>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>>> "Internet >>>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation >>>>> Aborted". >>>>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>>> >>>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on >>>>> this >>>>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 What they said... Okay, I downloaded the IE8 installer from the IE site. Every now and then I glance over at that download wondering if this is the moment I'm going to do it! ;) I guess when I finally make up my mind to do it I'll let you know how it went. Incredibly nice set of links, btw, Donald. Best regards Donald and PA Bear... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:46:25 -0800, Mike H wrote: > Well I appreciate what both of you have said. You're right on-IE7 has this > child container problem which IE8 does not. I may or may not be interested > in fixing that...it's really not much of a problem. > > What I was asking is if IE8 is a faster application than IE7 and if I'll be > happy with it on this not-state-of-the-art machine. This question is hard > to answer from reviews. Microsoft says it has a fast page load. Third > parties say it's resource intensive but most of those reviews were against > the betas. > > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:00:21 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > >> See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. >> >> Mike H wrote: >>> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >>> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs it >>> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >>> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? See, >>> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if IE7 >>> might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >>> features >>> which will only slow me down more. >>> >>> To answer your questions: >>> >>> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it >>> at >>> will by going to: >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >>> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" >>> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >>> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >>> site, >>> but not so this one. >>> >>> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >>> >>> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default >>> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >>> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >>> >>> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd party >>> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >>> running at all, including AV >>> >>> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>>> start >>>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>>> >>>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>>> Add-ons; or >>>> >>>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>>> >>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>>> >>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>>> >>>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>>> installed >>>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>>> >>>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this >>>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >>>> bought >>>> it)? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike H wrote: >>>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>>> with >>>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web >>>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>>> "Internet >>>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". >>>>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>>> >>>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this >>>>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 Well... Early results are good. Scripts ARE faster. In fact, they're much faster. Furthermore, some sites that I had trouble with in IE7 now work, such as http://forums.adobe.com. That site wouldn't work if the browser window wasn't maximized, or set to a window size => 1024x768. I used the IE8 downloadable installer. I forgot to do a few suggested things prior to installing IE8, such as deleting temps, etc., and resetting advanced settings, but I didn't run into problems. Everything seems to work well. I noticed I needed to do a "reset all to default" for the security zones. All in all, I'm pretty happy. It was interesting, btw, to see it do Facebook as fast as Firefox. Good move. Another plus: IE7 would slowly increase the size of the commit charge for paging, esp. after Facebook visits. I could frequently see Peak Working Set memory for IE7 going above 500MB, some of which I could get back by exiting and restarting IE, but to get it all required a reboot. IE8? No problem here. Very nice job, Microsoft. ....and thanks guys. On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:46:25 -0800, Mike H wrote: > Well I appreciate what both of you have said. You're right on-IE7 has this > child container problem which IE8 does not. I may or may not be interested > in fixing that...it's really not much of a problem. > > What I was asking is if IE8 is a faster application than IE7 and if I'll be > happy with it on this not-state-of-the-art machine. This question is hard > to answer from reviews. Microsoft says it has a fast page load. Third > parties say it's resource intensive but most of those reviews were against > the betas. > > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:00:21 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: > >> See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. >> >> Mike H wrote: >>> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >>> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs it >>> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >>> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? See, >>> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if IE7 >>> might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >>> features >>> which will only slow me down more. >>> >>> To answer your questions: >>> >>> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce it >>> at >>> will by going to: >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >>> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest Runways" >>> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >>> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >>> site, >>> but not so this one. >>> >>> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >>> >>> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those default >>> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >>> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >>> >>> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd party >>> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >>> running at all, including AV >>> >>> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >>> >>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>>> start >>>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>>> >>>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>>> Add-ons; or >>>> >>>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>>> >>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>>> >>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>>> >>>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? >>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>>> installed >>>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>>> >>>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this >>>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >>>> bought >>>> it)? >>>> >>>> >>>> Mike H wrote: >>>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>>> with >>>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some web >>>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>>> "Internet >>>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation Aborted". >>>>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>>> >>>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on this >>>>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 "Mike H" <mkREMOVEhuskeyALL@THIShotmail.invalid> wrote in message news:1h4e6rlvbuy8l$.q867k0i4fp4v$.dlg@40tude.net.. . > Well... > > Early results are good. Scripts ARE faster. In fact, they're much faster. > Furthermore, some sites that I had trouble with in IE7 now work, such as > http://forums.adobe.com. That site wouldn't work if the browser window > wasn't maximized, or set to a window size => 1024x768. > > I used the IE8 downloadable installer. I forgot to do a few suggested > things prior to installing IE8, such as deleting temps, etc., and > resetting > advanced settings, but I didn't run into problems. Everything seems to > work > well. I noticed I needed to do a "reset all to default" for the security > zones. > > All in all, I'm pretty happy. It was interesting, btw, to see it do > Facebook as fast as Firefox. Good move. > > Another plus: IE7 would slowly increase the size of the commit charge for > paging, esp. after Facebook visits. I could frequently see Peak Working > Set > memory for IE7 going above 500MB, some of which I could get back by > exiting > and restarting IE, but to get it all required a reboot. IE8? No problem > here. > > Very nice job, Microsoft. > > ...and thanks guys. You're welcome Mike, glad it went smoothly for you:) If any issue(s) or question(s) should arise, please begin a new thread detailing the issue(s)||question(s). Good luck, Donald Anadell > > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:46:25 -0800, Mike H wrote: > >> Well I appreciate what both of you have said. You're right on-IE7 has >> this >> child container problem which IE8 does not. I may or may not be >> interested >> in fixing that...it's really not much of a problem. >> >> What I was asking is if IE8 is a faster application than IE7 and if I'll >> be >> happy with it on this not-state-of-the-art machine. This question is hard >> to answer from reviews. Microsoft says it has a fast page load. Third >> parties say it's resource intensive but most of those reviews were >> against >> the betas. >> >> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:00:21 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> >>> See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. >>> >>> Mike H wrote: >>>> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >>>> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs >>>> it >>>> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >>>> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? >>>> See, >>>> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if >>>> IE7 >>>> might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >>>> features >>>> which will only slow me down more. >>>> >>>> To answer your questions: >>>> >>>> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce >>>> it >>>> at >>>> will by going to: >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >>>> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest >>>> Runways" >>>> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >>>> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >>>> site, >>>> but not so this one. >>>> >>>> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >>>> >>>> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those >>>> default >>>> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >>>> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >>>> >>>> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd >>>> party >>>> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >>>> running at all, including AV >>>> >>>> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>>>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>>>> start >>>>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>>>> >>>>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>>>> Add-ons; or >>>>> >>>>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>>>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>>>> >>>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>>>> >>>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>>>> >>>>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if >>>>> any)? >>>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>>>> installed >>>>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>>>> >>>>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on >>>>> this >>>>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you >>>>> bought >>>>> it)? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mike H wrote: >>>>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>>>> with >>>>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some >>>>>> web >>>>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>>>> "Internet >>>>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation >>>>>> Aborted". >>>>>> I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>>>> >>>>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on >>>>>> this >>>>>> box. |
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| Re: Will I be happy with IE8 Thanks very much for your feedback, Mike! Mike H wrote: > Well... > > Early results are good. Scripts ARE faster. In fact, they're much faster. > Furthermore, some sites that I had trouble with in IE7 now work, such as > http://forums.adobe.com. That site wouldn't work if the browser window > wasn't maximized, or set to a window size => 1024x768. > > I used the IE8 downloadable installer. I forgot to do a few suggested > things prior to installing IE8, such as deleting temps, etc., and > resetting > advanced settings, but I didn't run into problems. Everything seems to > work > well. I noticed I needed to do a "reset all to default" for the security > zones. > > All in all, I'm pretty happy. It was interesting, btw, to see it do > Facebook as fast as Firefox. Good move. > > Another plus: IE7 would slowly increase the size of the commit charge for > paging, esp. after Facebook visits. I could frequently see Peak Working > Set > memory for IE7 going above 500MB, some of which I could get back by > exiting > and restarting IE, but to get it all required a reboot. IE8? No problem > here. > > Very nice job, Microsoft. > > ...and thanks guys. > > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:46:25 -0800, Mike H wrote: > >> Well I appreciate what both of you have said. You're right on-IE7 has >> this >> child container problem which IE8 does not. I may or may not be >> interested >> in fixing that...it's really not much of a problem. >> >> What I was asking is if IE8 is a faster application than IE7 and if I'll >> be >> happy with it on this not-state-of-the-art machine. This question is hard >> to answer from reviews. Microsoft says it has a fast page load. Third >> parties say it's resource intensive but most of those reviews were >> against >> the betas. >> >> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:00:21 -0500, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >> >>> See Donald's reply. Also see the numerous workarounds in >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927917 if you'd rather stick with IE7. >>> >>> Mike H wrote: >>>> PA-Bear, actually I was wondering if I'd be happy with IE8 on an older >>>> machine which runs IE7 only adequately. Facebook scripting really dogs >>>> it >>>> down, though. In fact, any site heavy in scripting dogs it down. Not so >>>> with Firefox, so maybe a newer version of IE overcomes some of that? >>>> See, >>>> I'm running a PIII 1.33 GHz Tualatin with 1GB of RAM. I've wondered if >>>> IE7 might be the last browser upgrade I do, fearing that IE8 might add >>>> features >>>> which will only slow me down more. >>>> >>>> To answer your questions: >>>> >>>> The error I referred to is a well documented one, and I can reproduce >>>> it >>>> at >>>> will by going to: >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33400857...-destinations/ >>>> and then scrolling down and clicking the link "World's Scariest >>>> Runways" >>>> (http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...est-runways/2/) >>>> On some sites, that error will disappear upon a 2nd navigation to the >>>> site, >>>> but not so this one. >>>> >>>> 1. Yes, this behavior persists in no add-ons mode. >>>> >>>> 2. Yes, it persists and in fact I haven't varied much from those >>>> default >>>> options, other than deselecting Passive FTP, searching from the address >>>> bar, smooth scrolling, and selecting always check for phishing sites. >>>> >>>> 3. I'm using NOD32 v4.0.467.0 and Windows Defender. There is no 3rd >>>> party >>>> firewall. SP2 and SP3 were installed from CD's with no other software >>>> running at all, including AV >>>> >>>> 4. McAfee or Symantec have never been installed on this machine. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:42 -0400, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: >>>>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode? To >>>>> start >>>>> IE7 in No Add-ons mode: >>>>> >>>>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without >>>>> Add-ons; or >>>>> >>>>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet >>>>> Explorer (No add-ons). >>>>> >>>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode: >>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx >>>>> >>>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)? >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using! >>>>> >>>>> 3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your >>>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware >>>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if >>>>> any)? >>>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you >>>>> installed >>>>> IE7 and/or SP3? >>>>> >>>>> 4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on >>>>> this machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when >>>>> you >>>>> bought >>>>> it)? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mike H wrote: >>>>>> I'm using IE7 on a PIII Tualatin (1.33GHz), with XP SP3. I'm unhappy >>>>>> with >>>>>> jscript execution speed, and there's a continuing problem with some >>>>>> web >>>>>> sites that begin to load a page, only to be aborted when IE7 says >>>>>> "Internet >>>>>> Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://...." "Operation >>>>>> Aborted". I'm told that problem doesn't exist in IE8. >>>>>> >>>>>> So...does IE8 execute scripts any faster? Is it more intensive of >>>>>> resources? I need to be careful about how far I upgrade software on >>>>>> this box. |
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