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Old 10-27-2009, 01:40 PM
Tom Willett
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Re: Possible Fraud

With the millions and millions of similar emails going out everyday, ISPs
don't have the resources to do this.

"cranheim" <caranheim@sbcglobal.net.net> wrote in message
news:uN2wjbyVKHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: The only reason I wanted to report it to sbcglobal was that I thought they
: might want to send out a reminder message warning others not to respond to
: this email. I don't have the skills to track it well enough to report it
to
: the internet provider that accepted the fraudulent email in the first
place.
: Charles Ranheim
:
: "Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
: news:%23XMi8NwVKHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
: > That's the way abuse works. You report the problem to the ISP of the
: > abuser,
: > not your own. There's nothing they can do, they have no control over the
: > abuser.
: >
: > "cranheim" <caranheim@sbcglobal.net.net> wrote in message
: > news:e7mff9nVKHA.4484@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: > :I forwarded the email to Abuse at sbcglobal and received the following
: > : response:
: > : "Please note that we can only take action on reports that implicate
: > : the AT&T network as a source of abuse. As we are unable to take
: > : any action on reports not involving AT&T's network, we recommend
: > : that you send those reports directly to the abuse address of the
: > : originating domain or service provider."
: > :
: > : It doesn't look like Abuse at sbcglobal is interested in what I sent.
No
: > : problem. It's time to delete it and forget it ever happened. Thanks
: > again
: > to
: > : those who responded. I appreciated your help and comments. Charles
: > Ranheim
: > :
: > : "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
: > : news:wyxlomsr7biy$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
: > : > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:34:41 -0400, cranheim wrote:
: > : >
: > : >> I could not find a way to contact SBC Global, but I did report it
to
: > : >> reportphishing@antiphishing.org and spam@uce.gov. In looking at the
: > : >> message
: > : >> detail, it looks like it may have come from overseas. I wish
: > : >> sbcglobal.net
: > : >> had an address available that I could have forwarded it to, but I
had
: > no
: > : >> luck trying to find one.
: > : >> Thanks for your input. Charles Ranheim
: > : >
: > : > "Abuse at sbcglobal.net" should work, if you are still inclined.
: > However,
: > : > they have already sent out a warning to their user base about that
: > letter,
: > : > and it is actually what is known as a "phish". Ever since SBC put a
: > block
: > : > on
: > : > outbound port 25, spammers have found it hard to send spam through
: > : > compromised customer computers. The purpose of this "phish" is to
: > obtain
: > : > user login credentials so that spammers can authenticate to the AT&T
: > : > (formerly SBC) SMTP message submission servers, in order to get
their
: > spam
: > : > out. This is, apparently a very effective "phish", because the AT&T
: > : > servers
: > : > have been blocked by Comcast, Embarq, and Hotmail (among others) for
: > spam.
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Norman
: > : > ~Oh Lord, why have you come
: > : > ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:


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Old 10-27-2009, 01:40 PM
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:10 PM
Patrick Palczewski
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Re: Possible Fraud

Charles, you really don't need to report every single spam message you
receive. That would take a LOT of your time. My tips were for how to catch
them in the future. Just delete them if you see them.

Patrick

"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
news:eXpmLz0VKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> With the millions and millions of similar emails going out everyday, ISPs
> don't have the resources to do this.
>
> "cranheim" <caranheim@sbcglobal.net.net> wrote in message
> news:uN2wjbyVKHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : The only reason I wanted to report it to sbcglobal was that I thought
> they
> : might want to send out a reminder message warning others not to respond
> to
> : this email. I don't have the skills to track it well enough to report it
> to
> : the internet provider that accepted the fraudulent email in the first
> place.
> : Charles Ranheim
> :
> : "Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
> : news:%23XMi8NwVKHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > That's the way abuse works. You report the problem to the ISP of the
> : > abuser,
> : > not your own. There's nothing they can do, they have no control over
> the
> : > abuser.
> : >
> : > "cranheim" <caranheim@sbcglobal.net.net> wrote in message
> : > news:e7mff9nVKHA.4484@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : > :I forwarded the email to Abuse at sbcglobal and received the
> following
> : > : response:
> : > : "Please note that we can only take action on reports that implicate
> : > : the AT&T network as a source of abuse. As we are unable to take
> : > : any action on reports not involving AT&T's network, we recommend
> : > : that you send those reports directly to the abuse address of the
> : > : originating domain or service provider."
> : > :
> : > : It doesn't look like Abuse at sbcglobal is interested in what I
> sent.
> No
> : > : problem. It's time to delete it and forget it ever happened. Thanks
> : > again
> : > to
> : > : those who responded. I appreciated your help and comments. Charles
> : > Ranheim
> : > :
> : > : "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
> : > : news:wyxlomsr7biy$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> : > : > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:34:41 -0400, cranheim wrote:
> : > : >
> : > : >> I could not find a way to contact SBC Global, but I did report it
> to
> : > : >> reportphishing@antiphishing.org and spam@uce.gov. In looking at
> the
> : > : >> message
> : > : >> detail, it looks like it may have come from overseas. I wish
> : > : >> sbcglobal.net
> : > : >> had an address available that I could have forwarded it to, but I
> had
> : > no
> : > : >> luck trying to find one.
> : > : >> Thanks for your input. Charles Ranheim
> : > : >
> : > : > "Abuse at sbcglobal.net" should work, if you are still inclined.
> : > However,
> : > : > they have already sent out a warning to their user base about that
> : > letter,
> : > : > and it is actually what is known as a "phish". Ever since SBC put
> a
> : > block
> : > : > on
> : > : > outbound port 25, spammers have found it hard to send spam through
> : > : > compromised customer computers. The purpose of this "phish" is to
> : > obtain
> : > : > user login credentials so that spammers can authenticate to the
> AT&T
> : > : > (formerly SBC) SMTP message submission servers, in order to get
> their
> : > spam
> : > : > out. This is, apparently a very effective "phish", because the
> AT&T
> : > : > servers
> : > : > have been blocked by Comcast, Embarq, and Hotmail (among others)
> for
> : > spam.
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Norman
> : > : > ~Oh Lord, why have you come
> : > : > ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

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