When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual), once the
TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge, and all else
"freezes."

I had problems with cleaning my computer for a 2 day residence of Cyber
Defender and the NG led me to use thespykiller.co/uk and have all logs saved
from HJT, ComboFix, etc. Nothing is now on them at all; however, this is a
new development that began the day everything was "clean!"

Derek advised me to install Java then run secunia - which has not yet been
done (secunia run).

Three times I have had to shut down to release my system - nothing else
helped.

Please advise and thank you, again.

All updates current and automatic.
XP Pro; Ad-Aware, Avira; Malwearbytes;

Hi,
I'm just guessing because I don't recall seeing this problem posted before.

Go into Avira settings/options and disable e-mail scanning - both incoming
and outgoing. Restart. See if that helps. E-mail scanning is unnecessary-
attachments will be scanned when you open or save them.

Hope this helps,
Don
[MS MVP- IE]


"~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual), once
the
> TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge, and all else
> "freezes."
>
> I had problems with cleaning my computer for a 2 day residence of Cyber
> Defender and the NG led me to use thespykiller.co/uk and have all logs
saved
> from HJT, ComboFix, etc. Nothing is now on them at all; however, this is a
> new development that began the day everything was "clean!"
>
> Derek advised me to install Java then run secunia - which has not yet been
> done (secunia run).
>
> Three times I have had to shut down to release my system - nothing else
> helped.
>
> Please advise and thank you, again.
>
> All updates current and automatic.
> XP Pro; Ad-Aware, Avira; Malwearbytes;

Don, I cannot find where to do that with Avira - that is why back when I
gave up and Uninstalled Avira, I had the problem with the "new AV."

There are 4 scan options (P2P, Standard, Network, and Web) - I think it's
the P2P, but not sure. None indicate email scanning. I agree, I don't want
it scanned!


Don Varnau wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm just guessing because I don't recall seeing this problem posted
> before.
>
> Go into Avira settings/options and disable e-mail scanning - both
> incoming and outgoing. Restart. See if that helps. E-mail scanning is
> unnecessary- attachments will be scanned when you open or save them.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
>
> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
> news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual),
>> once the TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge,
>> and all else "freezes."
>>
>> I had problems with cleaning my computer for a 2 day residence of
>> Cyber Defender and the NG led me to use thespykiller.co/uk and have
>> all logs saved from HJT, ComboFix, etc. Nothing is now on them at
>> all; however, this is a new development that began the day
>> everything was "clean!"
>>
>> Derek advised me to install Java then run secunia - which has not
>> yet been done (secunia run).
>>
>> Three times I have had to shut down to release my system - nothing
>> else helped.
>>
>> Please advise and thank you, again.
>>
>> All updates current and automatic.
>> XP Pro; Ad-Aware, Avira; Malwearbytes;

--
Carol
Tel: 832-5683 (res); Cell: 806/281-7853

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/c-thompson/1/43b/539

"~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual), once the
> TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge,


Send by Page or Send by Link? Also, is OE the only E-mail client
you have installed?


> and all else "freezes."


So you can't even start Task Manager with Ctrl+Alt+Delete then?

Does the mouse pointer "freeze" too? (I can't remember if you
have enough vision to be aware of that. <w>)

BTW it might be a good idea to have either Task Manager or
Process Explorer already running so you can detect if anything
at all is happening under this "freeze".


HTH

Robert
---


>
> I had problems with cleaning my computer for a 2 day residence of Cyber
> Defender and the NG led me to use thespykiller.co/uk and have all logs saved
> from HJT, ComboFix, etc. Nothing is now on them at all; however, this is a
> new development that began the day everything was "clean!"
>
> Derek advised me to install Java then run secunia - which has not yet been
> done (secunia run).
>
> Three times I have had to shut down to release my system - nothing else
> helped.
>
> Please advise and thank you, again.
>
> All updates current and automatic.
> XP Pro; Ad-Aware, Avira; Malwearbytes;
>
>
>

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
> news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual),
>> once the TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge,
>
>
> Send by Page or Send by Link?

Both, and everything is then "stuck."

Interestingly, I have Magic Jack, and today they had to re-install it b/c it
did not show up on Task Manager, and no icon. On the two drives it installs
icons on, neither would "run." All is well with that, now.

Also, is OE the only E-mail client
> you have installed?
Yes.
>

>
>> and all else "freezes."
>
>
> So you can't even start Task Manager with Ctrl+Alt+Delete then?

Right.

>
> Does the mouse pointer "freeze" too? (I can't remember if you
> have enough vision to be aware of that. <w>)

NO - I know that b/c I can try to decrease a window, or X things out, but I
only hear a loud 'THUMP' or "SLAM' sound when I try to do anything. I have
to add that initially, it seems the URL indicates it is not running - or
whatever that term is for such a thing.
>
> BTW it might be a good idea to have either Task Manager or
> Process Explorer already running so you can detect if anything
> at all is happening under this "freeze".
>
How do I do that? Thank you, Robert.
>
> HTH
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>
>>
>> I had problems with cleaning my computer for a 2 day residence of
>> Cyber Defender and the NG led me to use thespykiller.co/uk and have
>> all logs saved from HJT, ComboFix, etc. Nothing is now on them at
>> all; however, this is a new development that began the day
>> everything was "clean!" Derek advised me to install Java then run
>> secunia - which has not
>> yet been done (secunia run).
>>
>> Three times I have had to shut down to release my system - nothing
>> else helped.
>>
>> Please advise and thank you, again.
>>
>> All updates current and automatic.
>> XP Pro; Ad-Aware, Avira; Malwearbytes;

--
Carol
Tel: 832-5683 (res); Cell: 806/281-7853

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/c-thompson/1/43b/539

"~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message news:%23cKa1DGSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
>> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
>> news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual),
>>> once the TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge,
>>
>>
>> Send by Page or Send by Link?
>
> Both, and everything is then "stuck."
>

> Interestingly, I have Magic Jack, and today they had to re-install it b/c it
> did not show up on Task Manager, and no icon. On the two drives it installs
> icons on, neither would "run." All is well with that, now.


http://voip2u.org/usb-hub-fixes-magic-jack

(BING search for
"magic jack" problems (freeze OR freezing)
)

<quote>
So, if you're having problems with your Magic Jack not working correctly,
try buying an A/C powered USB hub and see if that solves your problem.
</quote>

That looks like a clue. Have you tried eliminating that product
from your problem scenario? ; )


>> Also, is OE the only E-mail client you have installed?
> Yes.
>>
>
>>
>>> and all else "freezes."
>>
>>
>> So you can't even start Task Manager with Ctrl+Alt+Delete then?
>
> Right.
>
>>
>> Does the mouse pointer "freeze" too? (I can't remember if you
>> have enough vision to be aware of that. <w>)
>
> NO - I know that b/c I can try to decrease a window, or X things out, but I
> only hear a loud 'THUMP' or "SLAM' sound when I try to do anything. I have
> to add that initially, it seems the URL indicates it is not running - or
> whatever that term is for such a thing.
>>

>> BTW it might be a good idea to have either Task Manager or
>> Process Explorer already running so you can detect if anything
>> at all is happening under this "freeze".
>>

> How do I do that? Thank you, Robert.


Task Manager: press Ctrl+Shift+Esc (when Windows Explorer
aka explorer.exe is running) or Ctrl+Alt+Delete any time
(among other methods).

Process Explorer (aka ProcExp): download and install from TechNet

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896653.aspx

Apparently you can even "run it live" (whatever that means.)
I guess that would be useful if you suspected your machine
was infected and you always wanted to be running a fresh copy?

Note: both tools allow you to run them with the option: Always on top
so you could arrange your windows to make sure that some of their
statistics were always showing. In particular Task Manager has what
is known as its "tiny footprint" mode: doubleclick in its tab frame
and you can then resize its window without any title bar, menu bar
or tabs. So, on the Processes tab you can narrow the window down
to see the statistics of just one task, etc.

The fact that your mouse pointer isn't freezing too means that the OS
doesn't completely disable interrupts. So, there may be other signs
of life in those diagnostics. Process Explorer allows you to see many
more details, including driver details, so it could be interesting looking
at that Magic Jack's components, if you still wanted to run it. ; )


HTH

Robert
---

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cKa1DGSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
>>> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in
>>> message news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual),
>>>> once the TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge,
>>>
>>>
>>> Send by Page or Send by Link?
>>
>> Both, and everything is then "stuck."
>>
>
>> Interestingly, I have Magic Jack, and today they had to re-install
>> it b/c it did not show up on Task Manager, and no icon. On the two
>> drives it installs icons on, neither would "run." All is well with
>> that, now.
>
>
> http://voip2u.org/usb-hub-fixes-magic-jack
>
> (BING search for
> "magic jack" problems (freeze OR freezing)
> )

Interestingly, I set up a chat with MJ and downloaded something advised b/c
it would not show the 'icon' nor would it work. Things seem better since
that session.

>
> <quote>
> So, if you're having problems with your Magic Jack not working
> correctly, try buying an A/C powered USB hub and see if that solves your
> problem.
> </quote>
>
> That looks like a clue. Have you tried eliminating that product
> from your problem scenario? ; )
>
LOL In fact, I bought a new one rather than 're-new' b/c it was 50% the
price 'in town' not through MJ
>
>>> Also, is OE the only E-mail client you have installed?
>> Yes.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>> and all else "freezes."
>>>
>>>
>>> So you can't even start Task Manager with Ctrl+Alt+Delete then?
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>>
>>> Does the mouse pointer "freeze" too? (I can't remember if you
>>> have enough vision to be aware of that. <w>)
>>
>> NO - I know that b/c I can try to decrease a window, or X things
>> out, but I only hear a loud 'THUMP' or "SLAM' sound when I try to do
>> anything. I have to add that initially, it seems the URL indicates
>> it is not running - or whatever that term is for such a thing.
>>>
>
>>> BTW it might be a good idea to have either Task Manager or
>>> Process Explorer already running so you can detect if anything
>>> at all is happening under this "freeze".
>>>
>
>> How do I do that? Thank you, Robert.
>
>
> Task Manager: press Ctrl+Shift+Esc (when Windows Explorer
> aka explorer.exe is running) or Ctrl+Alt+Delete any time
> (among other methods).
>
> Process Explorer (aka ProcExp): download and install from TechNet
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896653.aspx
>
> Apparently you can even "run it live" (whatever that means.)
> I guess that would be useful if you suspected your machine
> was infected and you always wanted to be running a fresh copy?
>
> Note: both tools allow you to run them with the option: Always on top
> so you could arrange your windows to make sure that some of their
> statistics were always showing. In particular Task Manager has what
> is known as its "tiny footprint" mode: doubleclick in its tab frame
> and you can then resize its window without any title bar, menu bar
> or tabs. So, on the Processes tab you can narrow the window down
> to see the statistics of just one task, etc.
>
> The fact that your mouse pointer isn't freezing too means that the OS
> doesn't completely disable interrupts. So, there may be other signs
> of life in those diagnostics. Process Explorer allows you to see many
> more details, including driver details, so it could be interesting
> looking at that Magic Jack's components, if you still wanted to run it.
> ; )
>

I'll try the download for procexp - one thing that bothered me was pulling
up Task Manager there is little on mine, but also could not get rid of it! I
have apparently only chosen a brief window! DUH.

>
> HTH
>
> Robert
> ---

--
Carol
Tel: 832-5683 (res); Cell: 806/281-7853

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/c-thompson/1/43b/539

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cKa1DGSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
>>> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in
>>> message news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual),
>>>> once the TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge,
>>>
>>>
>>> Send by Page or Send by Link?
>>
>> Both, and everything is then "stuck."
>>
>
>> Interestingly, I have Magic Jack, and today they had to re-install
>> it b/c it did not show up on Task Manager, and no icon. On the two
>> drives it installs icons on, neither would "run." All is well with
>> that, now.
>
>
> http://voip2u.org/usb-hub-fixes-magic-jack
>
> (BING search for
> "magic jack" problems (freeze OR freezing)
> )
>
> <quote>
> So, if you're having problems with your Magic Jack not working
> correctly, try buying an A/C powered USB hub and see if that solves your
> problem.
> </quote>
>
> That looks like a clue. Have you tried eliminating that product
> from your problem scenario? ; )
>
>
>>> Also, is OE the only E-mail client you have installed?
>> Yes.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>> and all else "freezes."
>>>
>>>
>>> So you can't even start Task Manager with Ctrl+Alt+Delete then?
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>>
>>> Does the mouse pointer "freeze" too? (I can't remember if you
>>> have enough vision to be aware of that. <w>)
>>
>> NO - I know that b/c I can try to decrease a window, or X things
>> out, but I only hear a loud 'THUMP' or "SLAM' sound when I try to do
>> anything. I have to add that initially, it seems the URL indicates
>> it is not running - or whatever that term is for such a thing.
>>>
>
>>> BTW it might be a good idea to have either Task Manager or
>>> Process Explorer already running so you can detect if anything
>>> at all is happening under this "freeze".
>>>
>
>> How do I do that? Thank you, Robert.
>
>
> Task Manager: press Ctrl+Shift+Esc (when Windows Explorer
> aka explorer.exe is running) or Ctrl+Alt+Delete any time
> (among other methods).
>
> Process Explorer (aka ProcExp): download and install from TechNet
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896653.aspx
>
> Apparently you can even "run it live" (whatever that means.)
> I guess that would be useful if you suspected your machine
> was infected and you always wanted to be running a fresh copy?
>
> Note: both tools allow you to run them with the option: Always on top
> so you could arrange your windows to make sure that some of their
> statistics were always showing. In particular Task Manager has what
> is known as its "tiny footprint" mode: doubleclick in its tab frame
> and you can then resize its window without any title bar, menu bar
> or tabs. So, on the Processes tab you can narrow the window down
> to see the statistics of just one task, etc.

Great, but I cannot find the thing, now! Only 1 'freeze' today!

>
> The fact that your mouse pointer isn't freezing too means that the OS
> doesn't completely disable interrupts. So, there may be other signs
> of life in those diagnostics. Process Explorer allows you to see many
> more details, including driver details, so it could be interesting
> looking at that Magic Jack's components, if you still wanted to run it.
> ; )
>

(I 'hear' you!)
>
> HTH
>
> Robert
> ---

--
Carol
Tel: 832-5683 (res); Cell: 806/281-7853

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/c-thompson/1/43b/539

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cKa1DGSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
>>> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in
>>> message news:ObHHIa7RKHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> When I attempt to "Send" a URL from IE7 (and OE pops up as usual),
>>>> once the TO designee is inserted the frame/window will not budge,
>>>
>>>
>>> Send by Page or Send by Link?
>>
>> Both, and everything is then "stuck."
>>
>
>> Interestingly, I have Magic Jack, and today they had to re-install
>> it b/c it did not show up on Task Manager, and no icon. On the two
>> drives it installs icons on, neither would "run." All is well with
>> that, now.
>
>
> http://voip2u.org/usb-hub-fixes-magic-jack
>
> (BING search for
> "magic jack" problems (freeze OR freezing)
> )
>
> <quote>
> So, if you're having problems with your Magic Jack not working
> correctly, try buying an A/C powered USB hub and see if that solves your
> problem.
> </quote>
>
> That looks like a clue. Have you tried eliminating that product
> from your problem scenario? ; )
>
>
>>> Also, is OE the only E-mail client you have installed?
>> Yes.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>> and all else "freezes."
>>>
>>>
>>> So you can't even start Task Manager with Ctrl+Alt+Delete then?
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>>
>>> Does the mouse pointer "freeze" too? (I can't remember if you
>>> have enough vision to be aware of that. <w>)
>>
>> NO - I know that b/c I can try to decrease a window, or X things
>> out, but I only hear a loud 'THUMP' or "SLAM' sound when I try to do
>> anything. I have to add that initially, it seems the URL indicates
>> it is not running - or whatever that term is for such a thing.
>>>
>
>>> BTW it might be a good idea to have either Task Manager or
>>> Process Explorer already running so you can detect if anything
>>> at all is happening under this "freeze".
>>>
>
>> How do I do that? Thank you, Robert.
>
>
> Task Manager: press Ctrl+Shift+Esc (when Windows Explorer
> aka explorer.exe is running) or Ctrl+Alt+Delete any time
> (among other methods).
>
> Process Explorer (aka ProcExp): download and install from TechNet
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896653.aspx
>
> Apparently you can even "run it live" (whatever that means.)
> I guess that would be useful if you suspected your machine
> was infected and you always wanted to be running a fresh copy?
>
> Note: both tools allow you to run them with the option: Always on top
> so you could arrange your windows to make sure that some of their
> statistics were always showing. In particular Task Manager has what
> is known as its "tiny footprint" mode: doubleclick in its tab frame
> and you can then resize its window without any title bar, menu bar
> or tabs. So, on the Processes tab you can narrow the window down
> to see the statistics of just one task, etc.
>
> The fact that your mouse pointer isn't freezing too means that the OS
> doesn't completely disable interrupts. So, there may be other signs
> of life in those diagnostics. Process Explorer allows you to see many
> more details, including driver details, so it could be interesting
> looking at that Magic Jack's components, if you still wanted to run it.
> ; )
>
FOUND IT, Robert - nothing on it but Microsoft programs, and Quote/Fix . . .
sheesh! Lucky?
>
> HTH
>
> Robert
> ---

--
Carol
Tel: 832-5683 (res); Cell: 806/281-7853

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/c-thompson/1/43b/539

> "~*Laughingstar 2009*~" <tiredofthis@nospam.att.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Nz1EnCSKHA.764@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>> All updates current and automatic.
>>> XP Pro; Ad-Aware, Avira; Malwearbytes;
>
> --
> Carol
> Tel: XXX-XXXX (res); Cell: XXX/XXX-XXX
>
> Xhttp://www.linkedin.com/pub/c-thompson/1/43b/539

Hi Laughing Star, (Carol? :)

Just wondering if you were aware that the signature line being added to
your messages lately included your residence and cell phone numbers?

Hope This Helps.
--Richard