Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired of
the nag screen to compact my messages

[crossposted to OE General newsgroup. Not an IE question]

You no longer use OE but WLMail now? If you let OE compact, do you continue
to see the prompt? If so, read on.

The problem is with the registry counter that gives you the prompt after 100
closings of OE. It is being increased quicker than it should be and even if
you are not using OE.

There is a growing number of programs and actions that may be causing this
after installing SP3. Do you have any of the following?

IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL
Windows {Desktop} Search
Mailwasher
Nero plug-in(s)

Opening EML files while OE is closed will also contribute to the registry
count.

Various anti-virus, anti-spyware and third party firewalls, especially if
they were running when you installed SP3.

Archived thread discussing this issue in June 2008:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...d35fbfa457fd6f

In the case of Windows Desktop Search, (the #1 offender), you have to tell
it to stop indexing OE.

Windows {Desktop} Search. Set Desktop Search Options:
http://www.microsoft.com/australia/w...h/options.mspx

In Windows {Desktop} Search: Control Panel | Indexing Options. Click: Modify
and clear the check box for Outlook Express.

In the case of Nero Scout, see Item 2.3 on page 8 here.
ftp://ftp6.nero.com/user_guides/nero...oScout_Enu.pdf

In the option to exclude selected file types from indexing, be sure to add
these file types:

..eml, .dbx & .nws
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Merle" <planogram@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0FAA690B-9520-4875-92FD-E2FDA106660F@microsoft.com...
> Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired of
> the nag screen to compact my messages

[Crossposted to OE General]

No, you cannot uninstall Outlook Express (OE). You can remove access to OE
but doing so will not remove the Automatic Compacting nag.

Assuming WinXP SP3:

See this June 2008 discussion about this WinXP SP3-specific problem:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...d35fbfa457fd6f

For reference, here's a current list of items known to cause this behavior
(which is NOT being seen by the vast majority of OE users) in "most often
seen" order

• Nero plug-in(s) including Nero Scout*;
• Windows (Desktop) Search is installed <=usual culprit!!
[FIX: Uninstall Windows (Desktop) Search or CONTROL PANEL | INDEXING
OPTIONS | MODIFY | Clear the check box for Outlook Express];
• IBM Rapid Access keyboard (driver) RAKDLL.DLL;
• Various & sundry anti-virus applications (including Norton);
• Various & sundry anti-spyware applications;
• Various & sundry third-party firewalls;
• Any/all of the above running when WinXP SP3 was installed;
• Disk defragmentation, need for;
• Using Visual Basic DoCmd.SendObject command to create an email;
• Using any number third-party applications (e.g., accounting software;
FileMaker 6) to send emails by via Outlook Express;
• MailWasher; and/or
• Programatically opening EML files while OE is closed (e.g., creating a
New Message via Address Book).

===============
* IN RE Nero Scout, see Item 2.3 on page 8 here:
ftp://ftp6.nero.com/user_guides/nero...oScout_Enu.pdf

Also see http://www.nero.com/eng/support-faq.html?s=sub&t=Scout
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Merle wrote:
> Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired of
> the nag screen to compact my messages

Compacting benefits you in (at least) two ways:
1- Reduces the possibility of lost messages due to message store corruption.
2- Consolidates and frees up disk space.

I'm wondering why you don't want this to happen?
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Merle wrote:
> Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired
> of the nag screen to compact my messages

> I'm wondering why you don't want this to happen?<

The OP isn't using OE? <w>
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Leonard Grey" <l.grey@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:u%2369%23Vt8JHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Compacting benefits you in (at least) two ways:
> 1- Reduces the possibility of lost messages due to message store
> corruption.
> 2- Consolidates and frees up disk space.
>
> I'm wondering why you don't want this to happen?
> ---
> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
> Merle wrote:
>> Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired
>> of the nag screen to compact my messages

You can turn off message compacting or set it to happen less often.

WinMail - Tools - Options - Advanced Tab - Maintenance button

"Merle" <planogram@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0FAA690B-9520-4875-92FD-E2FDA106660F@microsoft.com...
> Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired of
> the nag screen to compact my messages

It's a known problem. Some third party programs are responsible and Windows
Search is the number one culprit. It indexes OE even if you are not using
OE, causing the "closings". See mine & Robear's first replies.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Leonard Grey" <l.grey@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:e48oRst8JHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> So...if the OP never uses Outlook Express...how are there messages to
> compact?
>
> And if, as I recall, the compacting message appears after every 100th time
> Outlook Express is closed (default value)...and the OP never opens Outlook
> Express...who closed the program 100 times?
> ---
> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>> I'm wondering why you don't want this to happen?<
>>
>> The OP isn't using OE? <w>

Screw MS! When we first saw this happening shortly after WinXP SP3 was
released, MS said they couldn't reproduce the behavior and so weren't about
to fix it. A few MVPs you know, working as a team, finally figured out the
Usual Suspects you've seen us refer to, Leonard.

Leonard Grey wrote:
> Thank heaven for Microsoft.
>
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> It's a known problem. Some third party programs are responsible and
>> Windows Search is the number one culprit. It indexes OE even if you are
>> not using OE, causing the "closings". See mine & Robear's first replies.

WTF does Windows Mail have to do with OP's question?

Spirit wrote:
> You can turn off message compacting or set it to happen less often.
>
> WinMail - Tools - Options - Advanced Tab - Maintenance button
>
> "Merle" <planogram@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:0FAA690B-9520-4875-92FD-E2FDA106660F@microsoft.com...
>> Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired
>> of
>> the nag screen to compact my messages

You need more porridge or an enema....... he said he was tired of the
Nag Screen.....

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP******.com> wrote in message
news:eTIgLFx8JHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> WTF does Windows Mail have to do with OP's question?
>
> Spirit wrote:
>> You can turn off message compacting or set it to happen less often.
>>
>> WinMail - Tools - Options - Advanced Tab - Maintenance button
>>
>> "Merle" <planogram@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:0FAA690B-9520-4875-92FD-E2FDA106660F@microsoft.com...
>>> Is it possible to uninstall outlook express and if so How? I get tired
>>> of
>>> the nag screen to compact my messages
>

Spirit wrote:
> You need more porridge or an enema....... he said he was tired of the
> Nag Screen.....
>

Err in Outlook EXPRESS......

Okay, the enema part I understand. I don't understand the porridge
part...maybe because I don't eat porridge?
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Gordon wrote:
> Spirit wrote:
>> You need more porridge or an enema....... he said he was tired of the
>> Nag Screen.....
>>
>
> Err in Outlook EXPRESS......

I said "OR", you can find the # in OE also.

"Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
news:OQ5D2Yy8JHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Spirit wrote:
>> You need more porridge or an enema....... he said he was tired of the
>> Nag Screen.....
>>
>
> Err in Outlook EXPRESS......

or read Fairy Tales? Girl with Golden Hair, 3 bears.............

"Leonard Grey" <l.grey@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:OM8d1Uz8JHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Okay, the enema part I understand. I don't understand the porridge
> part...maybe because I don't eat porridge?
> ---
> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
> Gordon wrote:
>> Spirit wrote:
>>> You need more porridge or an enema....... he said he was tired of the
>>> Nag Screen.....
>>>
>>
>> Err in Outlook EXPRESS......

The only way to slow it down in OE is in the registry and you have to keep
going back there. A PITA and not a solution to the OP's problem.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Spirit" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
news:erEvckz8JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I said "OR", you can find the # in OE also.
>
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com> wrote in message
> news:OQ5D2Yy8JHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Spirit wrote:
>>> You need more porridge or an enema....... he said he was tired of the
>>> Nag Screen.....
>>>
>>
>> Err in Outlook EXPRESS......
>