Hi Robert,

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> (cross-post added to IE Java)


> But now that I have reviewed your original post
> and see a mention of Microsoft VM I'm wondering
> if you are confused about what you *should* be seeing
> anyway. E.g. it looks to me that, at least in XP, the only
> thing left in the Internet Options about Java is a checkbox
> Use JRE 1.5.0_02 for <applet> (requires restart)
> and I suspect that is redundant anyway, since it duplicates
> an option that is otherwise available in the Java

As some java websites werent working and as the sun java
i installed wasnt "selectable" in IE7 options(as it didnt show)
i looked for the Msoft's old java virtual machine(not available anymore
from them) and installed it (see the link below to screen capture)

http://cjoint.com/?lDmlEm4Z8X

Sun java is missing in IE7 options after install
between "international" And "microsoft VM"/"multimedia"

> Control Panel applet. E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter:)
> control javacpl.cpl
> Then open the Advanced tab and expand the node
> Default Java for browsers
> Oh. Perhaps if there are no boxes checked in there
> the option would not appear in the Internet Options
> Advanced tab? I'll leave it to someone who is more
> interested in this scenario to do the necessary testing
> to confirm this idea... ; )
see both links below for the Java's advanced tab deployed:

http://cjoint.com/?lDmpcdW0Sz
nb: internet explorer is grayed out but checked

http://cjoint.com/?lDmpEt4zss



>
> One difference you may have in Vista, if I understand it
> correctly, is having to start that Control Panel applet
> using the Administrator, e.g. instead of being able to use
> the standard Run... dialog you might have to open the
> Control Panel itself, navigate to the Java applet, and then
> press Shift-RightClick to see a Run As... command to use
> with it. Etc.

No way to run it as administratror, in the control panel under vista

> Good luck
Many Thanks for your kind help
Happy thanksgiving
Regards

"jules" <i@freesurf.fr.invalid> wrote in message news:uvbrjThUJHA.5344@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Robert,
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> a crit dans le message de news:%234w0FjFUJHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> (cross-post added to IE Java)
>
>
>> But now that I have reviewed your original post
>> and see a mention of Microsoft VM I'm wondering
>> if you are confused about what you *should* be seeing
>> anyway. E.g. it looks to me that, at least in XP, the only
>> thing left in the Internet Options about Java is a checkbox
>> Use JRE 1.5.0_02 for <applet> (requires restart)
>> and I suspect that is redundant anyway, since it duplicates
>> an option that is otherwise available in the Java
>
> As some java websites werent working and as the sun java
> i installed wasnt "selectable" in IE7 options(as it didnt show)
> i looked for the Msoft's old java virtual machine(not available anymore
> from them) and installed it (see the link below to screen capture)
>
> http://cjoint.com/?lDmlEm4Z8X


But since nothing is checked there, what's the point? ; )

Also, you don't show the Internet Options, Security tab's
Custom Level settings. There are Java related options
in that dialog and also IIRC a special supplementary dialog
for customizing the use of the MS Java VM.


>
> Sun java is missing in IE7 options after install
> between "international" And "microsoft VM"/"multimedia"
>
>> Control Panel applet. E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter:)
>> control javacpl.cpl
>> Then open the Advanced tab and expand the node
>> Default Java for browsers
>> Oh. Perhaps if there are no boxes checked in there
>> the option would not appear in the Internet Options
>> Advanced tab? I'll leave it to someone who is more
>> interested in this scenario to do the necessary testing
>> to confirm this idea... ; )
> see both links below for the Java's advanced tab deployed:
>
> http://cjoint.com/?lDmpcdW0Sz
> nb: internet explorer is grayed out but checked
>
> http://cjoint.com/?lDmpEt4zss
>
>
>
>>
>> One difference you may have in Vista, if I understand it
>> correctly, is having to start that Control Panel applet
>> using the Administrator, e.g. instead of being able to use
>> the standard Run... dialog you might have to open the
>> Control Panel itself, navigate to the Java applet, and then
>> press Shift-RightClick to see a Run As... command to use
>> with it. Etc.
>
> No way to run it as administratror, in the control panel under vista

That's odd. There is in XP. Are you pressing Shift-
when you right-click on the icon for the Java CP applet?
The command I'm referring to only shows when I press
Shift- while right-clicking there.

BTW if you don't get it working with those hints,
what I would do is uninstall the old MSJava stuff
and try to see if the Sun stuff will reinstall properly
normally.


>
>> Good luck
> Many Thanks for your kind help
> Happy thanksgiving
> Regards


That was last month for me. ; )


Robert
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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> a écrit dans le message de
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>> http://cjoint.com/?lDmlEm4Z8X
> But since nothing is checked there, what's the point? ; )

The Microsoft VM has been checked/unchecked
to make different tries with java install(so what you saw is a temporary
state ;)


> Also, you don't show the Internet Options, Security tab's
> Custom Level settings. There are Java related options
> in that dialog and also IIRC a special supplementary dialog
> for customizing the use of the MS Java VM.
for active x


http://cjoint.com/?lEllc0nTxy
http://cjoint.com/?lElmi82lc3
http://cjoint.com/?lElmIOCUH5

For java
http://cjoint.com/?lElnhEcQkM

http://cjoint.com/?lElnUl2s3q

>
> That's odd. There is in XP. Are you pressing Shift-
> when you right-click on the icon for the Java CP applet?
> The command I'm referring to only shows when I press
> Shift- while right-clicking there.

shift-right gives me only 2 options
"open"/"create a short link"


> BTW if you don't get it working with those hints,
> what I would do is uninstall the old MSJava stuff
> and try to see if the Sun stuff will reinstall properly
> normally.
i'll will try that, i have to reboot ;-)
i'll keep you advised
Regards

Hi Robert,

"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:%23v9hAirUJHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> BTW if you don't get it working with those hints,
> what I would do is uninstall the old MSJava stuff
> and try to see if the Sun stuff will reinstall properly
> normally.
>
Finally with your bright help,
i managed to get it work !

i uninstall the microsoft VM
following a Sun procedure found here(sorry in french must exist also in
other languages
owe to your regional settings on java.com)

http://www.java.com/fr/download/help/uninstall_msvm.xml

i uninstalled , also, before the rebooting the jre update10
i deleted the windows java folder/the java files described above
deleted the registry keys

And then i went to java.com and i had been able
to do an online installation and then the online sun's java
version checking worked !
Probably , from my xp to vista upgrade,
the previous installations of both java/Microsoft VM
let some bad settings/files.
But i has been nearly two years ago(!) and never i had encountered
any worries java related but since one month.
I dont understand why my problem occured.
perhaps last java version(update10) or some vista KB updates
modified java "behavior".

Two notices:
One:
java options in IE7/8 /advanced are still not there(so must be vista "rule",
under xp were there)

Two:
in the java cpl/advanced tab the "java by default for internet browsers":
Microsoft Internet explorer is grayed out and ticked

i hope it will work now !

Anyway many thanks again Robert, your patient advices brought me to the
solution !
(crossing fingers)
Best regards

Actually - I was just about to weigh in with this problem myself! I have the
latest version of Java installed (11) and I have been unable to get past the
splash screen that comes up - it always says "Splash: recv failed" and then
the Java window hangs and fails to load. It is only when I try to enter a
chat program called vereconference - someone also told me to uncheck the
Java box in Tools in Internet Options - but like you - I found it wasn't
there.

I have not been able to get it to work with this program - although all
other java applets work. I've also tried to uninstall Sun/Java - but my
question is - is the Microsoft VM hidden somewhere? Is it not listed in the
Advanced Section of the Internet Options tab?

Pam

"jules" <i@freesurf.fr.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23duVeCuUJHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi Robert,
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> a écrit dans le message de
> news:%23v9hAirUJHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> BTW if you don't get it working with those hints,
>> what I would do is uninstall the old MSJava stuff
>> and try to see if the Sun stuff will reinstall properly
>> normally.
>>
> Finally with your bright help,
> i managed to get it work !
>
> i uninstall the microsoft VM
> following a Sun procedure found here(sorry in french must exist also in
> other languages
> owe to your regional settings on java.com)
>
> http://www.java.com/fr/download/help/uninstall_msvm.xml
>
> i uninstalled , also, before the rebooting the jre update10
> i deleted the windows java folder/the java files described above
> deleted the registry keys
>
> And then i went to java.com and i had been able
> to do an online installation and then the online sun's java
> version checking worked !
> Probably , from my xp to vista upgrade,
> the previous installations of both java/Microsoft VM
> let some bad settings/files.
> But i has been nearly two years ago(!) and never i had encountered
> any worries java related but since one month.
> I dont understand why my problem occured.
> perhaps last java version(update10) or some vista KB updates
> modified java "behavior".
>
> Two notices:
> One:
> java options in IE7/8 /advanced are still not there(so must be vista
> "rule",
> under xp were there)
>
> Two:
> in the java cpl/advanced tab the "java by default for internet
> browsers":
> Microsoft Internet explorer is grayed out and ticked
>
> i hope it will work now !
>
> Anyway many thanks again Robert, your patient advices brought me to the
> solution !
> (crossing fingers)
> Best regards
>