I see that Microsoft has again tried to hide issues brought up by customers.

Yesterday I posted this problem and I see that in less than 24 hours, MS has
removed it from the newsgroup, attempting to hide this issue from users.

Remove it all you want, MS, I'm going to repost every time you take it down
until you address this issue!

My post:
===begin post===
Ok, this will be a long post (since I list all of the attempted fixes) but
I'm hoping maybe someone (...Microsoft...are you listening??) can help me.

I have Windows XP Home SP2 and IE 7. About a month or so ago, my wife kept
telling me she couldn't get into Hotmail on her account on our laptop. I can
get in on my accout (both administrator accouts).

It tried it on hers and it didn't work on her profile but worked fine on
mine. I cleared the cache, history, cookies and all temporary internet
files. No joy. Tried resetting IE's settings, still no luck. I installed
SpyBot, found some stuff, but after immunizing the problems persisted.

I installed FireFox and she could get in no problem. Started searching
forums to see what I could find. Now keep in mind, MSN and other pages
loaded fine, just Hotmail and a few other sites (some https some not).

A few days of running FireFox and IE together (IE for her regular surfing
and FireFox for Hotmail) and she lets me know IE loads to a 'white page' with
some kind of 'runonce' page (sorry, writing this from home so I don't have
the exact page address).

I watch and sure enough, IE opens, tries to open this runonce page and stops
with a full white IE session (toolbar, etc. fine, but nothing on the page -
no error page, just blank). In the bottom left I see a Script Error
triangle. Click to view the script errors and I see a 'blank' script error
window. This window has the script topics, but each one is blank. Oh, did I
mention there are 30+ script error windows, each asking if I want to continue
running scripts? Only problem is each window has no actual error
information, all blank.

At this point since my profile (the first profile installed on the laptop)
works fine, let's just blow out her profile and see if that helps.

Now the problem gets interesting...her new profile doesn't display My
Computer, My Documents, Network Places or IE. I right-click the desktop and
choose the Desktop tab and I see check boxes for My Computer, My Documents
and Network Places, but no check box for IE. Keep in mind now that IE is
still the primary browser on my account - but there's no option to turn on
this icon.

I run about a million virus checks thinking I've got something - all come
back clean.

I do a system restore to get her profile back - and I see the IE icon (no
shortcut arrow, the real deal) but when I right-click the desktop on her
profile I don't see the IE checkbox. I can only assume had I checked that
before deleting her account I'd have seen the same.

Now I'm really confused, so I start searching groups other than Microsoft
(because, yes, Microsoft, there's at least THREE DOZEN posts of this problem
and not one has been answered!!). I find a ton of solutions from pop up
blockers to Adobe Flash. Some have me adding registry entries of
RunOnceComplete = 1 and some other one that's very similar (fixed the runonce
page error, but not the scripts).

Finally one promising one has me run a batch file that appears to basically
reset all registry rights entries - this one actually gets Hotmail to display
(albeit with some page bugs - list of options on the left is text instead of
graphics). I think 'yay, I solved the problem that literally thousands of
people have posted on!!' I log off of her account and go back to mine and
try to look up the address of a great brewhouse to celebrate my victory over
Microsoft (well, they never replied to anyone's post, so maybe it was by
default since they never showed up to play, but I win none the less!!) and
find out that Streets and Trips can't launch because of some installer
problem - apparently that registry fix ruined almost ALL of my programs -
from Streets and Trips to Office.

Another system restore and we're back to her using IE to surf and FireFox to
check her hotmail.

Now, I've seen posts on how to fix the runonce error, seen posts on how to
fix the 'no IE check box' problem, but if you take time to read the posts on
the internet, each one is actually related - you'll see someone say 'Hey,
thanks, the fix worked great!' If you keep reading, you'll see that user
post again a week or two later with the other half of the issue.
===end post===

So, let's see how long MS decides to let this post up on the boards for
people to 'vote' on it to get it fixed...I wonder if it will last the entire
day, or if someone from MS will take it down to hide their bug from us?

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general

Nothing's been pulled here, Robert.

cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...coring=d&hl=en

All eight (8) posts you've made in this newsgroup (as of this reply) are
still available here.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Robert_L_Ross wrote:
> I see that Microsoft has again tried to hide issues brought up by
> customers.
>
> Yesterday I posted this problem and I see that in less than 24 hours, MS
> has
> removed it from the newsgroup, attempting to hide this issue from users.
>
> Remove it all you want, MS, I'm going to repost every time you take it
> down
> until you address this issue!
>
> My post:
> ===begin post===
> Ok, this will be a long post (since I list all of the attempted fixes) but
> I'm hoping maybe someone (...Microsoft...are you listening??) can help me.
>
> I have Windows XP Home SP2 and IE 7. About a month or so ago, my wife
> kept
> telling me she couldn't get into Hotmail on her account on our laptop. I
> can get in on my accout (both administrator accouts).
>
> It tried it on hers and it didn't work on her profile but worked fine on
> mine. I cleared the cache, history, cookies and all temporary internet
> files. No joy. Tried resetting IE's settings, still no luck. I
> installed
> SpyBot, found some stuff, but after immunizing the problems persisted.
>
> I installed FireFox and she could get in no problem. Started searching
> forums to see what I could find. Now keep in mind, MSN and other pages
> loaded fine, just Hotmail and a few other sites (some https some not).
>
> A few days of running FireFox and IE together (IE for her regular surfing
> and FireFox for Hotmail) and she lets me know IE loads to a 'white page'
> with some kind of 'runonce' page (sorry, writing this from home so I don't
> have the exact page address).
>
> I watch and sure enough, IE opens, tries to open this runonce page and
> stops
> with a full white IE session (toolbar, etc. fine, but nothing on the
> page -
> no error page, just blank). In the bottom left I see a Script Error
> triangle. Click to view the script errors and I see a 'blank' script
> error
> window. This window has the script topics, but each one is blank. Oh,
> did
> I mention there are 30+ script error windows, each asking if I want to
> continue running scripts? Only problem is each window has no actual error
> information, all blank.
>
> At this point since my profile (the first profile installed on the laptop)
> works fine, let's just blow out her profile and see if that helps.
>
> Now the problem gets interesting...her new profile doesn't display My
> Computer, My Documents, Network Places or IE. I right-click the desktop
> and
> choose the Desktop tab and I see check boxes for My Computer, My Documents
> and Network Places, but no check box for IE. Keep in mind now that IE is
> still the primary browser on my account - but there's no option to turn on
> this icon.
>
> I run about a million virus checks thinking I've got something - all come
> back clean.
>
> I do a system restore to get her profile back - and I see the IE icon (no
> shortcut arrow, the real deal) but when I right-click the desktop on her
> profile I don't see the IE checkbox. I can only assume had I checked that
> before deleting her account I'd have seen the same.
>
> Now I'm really confused, so I start searching groups other than Microsoft
> (because, yes, Microsoft, there's at least THREE DOZEN posts of this
> problem
> and not one has been answered!!). I find a ton of solutions from pop up
> blockers to Adobe Flash. Some have me adding registry entries of
> RunOnceComplete = 1 and some other one that's very similar (fixed the
> runonce page error, but not the scripts).
>
> Finally one promising one has me run a batch file that appears to
> basically
> reset all registry rights entries - this one actually gets Hotmail to
> display (albeit with some page bugs - list of options on the left is text
> instead of graphics). I think 'yay, I solved the problem that literally
> thousands of people have posted on!!' I log off of her account and go
> back to mine and try to look up the address of a great brewhouse to
> celebrate my victory over Microsoft (well, they never replied to anyone's
> post, so maybe it was by default since they never showed up to play, but I
> win none the less!!) and find out that Streets and Trips can't launch
> because of some installer problem - apparently that registry fix ruined
> almost ALL of my programs - from Streets and Trips to Office.
>
> Another system restore and we're back to her using IE to surf and FireFox
> to
> check her hotmail.
>
> Now, I've seen posts on how to fix the runonce error, seen posts on how to
> fix the 'no IE check box' problem, but if you take time to read the posts
> on
> the internet, each one is actually related - you'll see someone say 'Hey,
> thanks, the fix worked great!' If you keep reading, you'll see that user
> post again a week or two later with the other half of the issue.
> ===end post===
>
> So, let's see how long MS decides to let this post up on the boards for
> people to 'vote' on it to get it fixed...I wonder if it will last the
> entire
> day, or if someone from MS will take it down to hide their bug from us?
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general

Then why isn't it on THIS group...where others can 'vote' to show MS that
it's a real problem??

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Nothing's been pulled here, Robert.
>
> cf.
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...coring=d&hl=en
>
> All eight (8) posts you've made in this newsgroup (as of this reply) are
> still available here.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Robert_L_Ross wrote:
> > I see that Microsoft has again tried to hide issues brought up by
> > customers.
> >
> > Yesterday I posted this problem and I see that in less than 24 hours, MS
> > has
> > removed it from the newsgroup, attempting to hide this issue from users.
> >
> > Remove it all you want, MS, I'm going to repost every time you take it
> > down
> > until you address this issue!
> >
> > My post:
> > ===begin post===
> > Ok, this will be a long post (since I list all of the attempted fixes) but
> > I'm hoping maybe someone (...Microsoft...are you listening??) can help me.
> >
> > I have Windows XP Home SP2 and IE 7. About a month or so ago, my wife
> > kept
> > telling me she couldn't get into Hotmail on her account on our laptop. I
> > can get in on my accout (both administrator accouts).
> >
> > It tried it on hers and it didn't work on her profile but worked fine on
> > mine. I cleared the cache, history, cookies and all temporary internet
> > files. No joy. Tried resetting IE's settings, still no luck. I
> > installed
> > SpyBot, found some stuff, but after immunizing the problems persisted.
> >
> > I installed FireFox and she could get in no problem. Started searching
> > forums to see what I could find. Now keep in mind, MSN and other pages
> > loaded fine, just Hotmail and a few other sites (some https some not).
> >
> > A few days of running FireFox and IE together (IE for her regular surfing
> > and FireFox for Hotmail) and she lets me know IE loads to a 'white page'
> > with some kind of 'runonce' page (sorry, writing this from home so I don't
> > have the exact page address).
> >
> > I watch and sure enough, IE opens, tries to open this runonce page and
> > stops
> > with a full white IE session (toolbar, etc. fine, but nothing on the
> > page -
> > no error page, just blank). In the bottom left I see a Script Error
> > triangle. Click to view the script errors and I see a 'blank' script
> > error
> > window. This window has the script topics, but each one is blank. Oh,
> > did
> > I mention there are 30+ script error windows, each asking if I want to
> > continue running scripts? Only problem is each window has no actual error
> > information, all blank.
> >
> > At this point since my profile (the first profile installed on the laptop)
> > works fine, let's just blow out her profile and see if that helps.
> >
> > Now the problem gets interesting...her new profile doesn't display My
> > Computer, My Documents, Network Places or IE. I right-click the desktop
> > and
> > choose the Desktop tab and I see check boxes for My Computer, My Documents
> > and Network Places, but no check box for IE. Keep in mind now that IE is
> > still the primary browser on my account - but there's no option to turn on
> > this icon.
> >
> > I run about a million virus checks thinking I've got something - all come
> > back clean.
> >
> > I do a system restore to get her profile back - and I see the IE icon (no
> > shortcut arrow, the real deal) but when I right-click the desktop on her
> > profile I don't see the IE checkbox. I can only assume had I checked that
> > before deleting her account I'd have seen the same.
> >
> > Now I'm really confused, so I start searching groups other than Microsoft
> > (because, yes, Microsoft, there's at least THREE DOZEN posts of this
> > problem
> > and not one has been answered!!). I find a ton of solutions from pop up
> > blockers to Adobe Flash. Some have me adding registry entries of
> > RunOnceComplete = 1 and some other one that's very similar (fixed the
> > runonce page error, but not the scripts).
> >
> > Finally one promising one has me run a batch file that appears to
> > basically
> > reset all registry rights entries - this one actually gets Hotmail to
> > display (albeit with some page bugs - list of options on the left is text
> > instead of graphics). I think 'yay, I solved the problem that literally
> > thousands of people have posted on!!' I log off of her account and go
> > back to mine and try to look up the address of a great brewhouse to
> > celebrate my victory over Microsoft (well, they never replied to anyone's
> > post, so maybe it was by default since they never showed up to play, but I
> > win none the less!!) and find out that Streets and Trips can't launch
> > because of some installer problem - apparently that registry fix ruined
> > almost ALL of my programs - from Streets and Trips to Office.
> >
> > Another system restore and we're back to her using IE to surf and FireFox
> > to
> > check her hotmail.
> >
> > Now, I've seen posts on how to fix the runonce error, seen posts on how to
> > fix the 'no IE check box' problem, but if you take time to read the posts
> > on
> > the internet, each one is actually related - you'll see someone say 'Hey,
> > thanks, the fix worked great!' If you keep reading, you'll see that user
> > post again a week or two later with the other half of the issue.
> > ===end post===
> >
> > So, let's see how long MS decides to let this post up on the boards for
> > people to 'vote' on it to get it fixed...I wonder if it will last the
> > entire
> > day, or if someone from MS will take it down to hide their bug from us?
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> > this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general
>
>

"Robert_L_Ross" <RobertLRoss@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:422989B8-FDD7-47A6-B3EA-5B7EDA344694@microsoft.com...
> Then why isn't it on THIS group...where others can 'vote' to show MS that

They are still there. I've just looked on the crummy web group, just for
you, and your posts from yesterday are still there.

They're coming to take you away, HA HA
They're coming to take you away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And you'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take you away, Ha-haaa!

Are they spying on you through the TV, radio, toaster, oven, or couch? LOL

Everyone is missing my point...if it's not on THIS group, then how can people
'vote for this suggestion'??

When they move the post to the other group, they prevent users from 'voting'
to see what problems they will simply ignore and what problems they will fix.

I see that the post just before mine and just after mine from yesterday are
still there, but for some reason, my post was moved - gee, I wonder if it's
because MS doesn't want to address this serious issue and hopes users like me
who have experienced this will just 'go away' and not create a stink about it.

Sorry, but I for one have had enough of MS ignoring their flaws.

"Gordon" wrote:

> "Robert_L_Ross" <RobertLRoss@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:422989B8-FDD7-47A6-B3EA-5B7EDA344694@microsoft.com...
> > Then why isn't it on THIS group...where others can 'vote' to show MS that
>
> They are still there. I've just looked on the crummy web group, just for
> you, and your posts from yesterday are still there.
>
>
>

"Robert_L_Ross" <RobertLRoss@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D4D640E-89ED-41B1-9782-88A03502F389@microsoft.com...
> Everyone is missing my point...if it's not on THIS group, then how can
> people
> 'vote for this suggestion'??
>
> When they move the post to the other group,

What "other" group ? they are where they always have been,
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

cf.
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...xp=&sloc=en-us

The threads above show 12 posts from you (as of this reply). All 12 show up
in my newsreader* as well.

Which post or thread is missing?

*Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express Newsreader
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...roupsetup.mspx

Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm
--
~PA Bear

Robert_L_Ross wrote:
> Then why isn't it on THIS group...where others can 'vote' to show MS that
> it's a real problem??
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Nothing's been pulled here, Robert.
>>
>> cf.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...coring=d&hl=en
>>
>> All eight (8) posts you've made in this newsgroup (as of this reply) are
>> still available here.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>>
>>
>> Robert_L_Ross wrote:
>>> I see that Microsoft has again tried to hide issues brought up by
>>> customers.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I posted this problem and I see that in less than 24 hours, MS
>>> has
>>> removed it from the newsgroup, attempting to hide this issue from users.
>>>
>>> Remove it all you want, MS, I'm going to repost every time you take it
>>> down
>>> until you address this issue!
>>>
>>> My post:
>>> ===begin post===
>>> Ok, this will be a long post (since I list all of the attempted fixes)
>>> but
>>> I'm hoping maybe someone (...Microsoft...are you listening??) can help
>>> me.
>>>
>>> I have Windows XP Home SP2 and IE 7. About a month or so ago, my wife
>>> kept
>>> telling me she couldn't get into Hotmail on her account on our laptop.
>>> I
>>> can get in on my accout (both administrator accouts).
>>>
>>> It tried it on hers and it didn't work on her profile but worked fine on
>>> mine. I cleared the cache, history, cookies and all temporary internet
>>> files. No joy. Tried resetting IE's settings, still no luck. I
>>> installed
>>> SpyBot, found some stuff, but after immunizing the problems persisted.
>>>
>>> I installed FireFox and she could get in no problem. Started searching
>>> forums to see what I could find. Now keep in mind, MSN and other pages
>>> loaded fine, just Hotmail and a few other sites (some https some not).
>>>
>>> A few days of running FireFox and IE together (IE for her regular
>>> surfing
>>> and FireFox for Hotmail) and she lets me know IE loads to a 'white page'
>>> with some kind of 'runonce' page (sorry, writing this from home so I
>>> don't
>>> have the exact page address).
>>>
>>> I watch and sure enough, IE opens, tries to open this runonce page and
>>> stops
>>> with a full white IE session (toolbar, etc. fine, but nothing on the
>>> page -
>>> no error page, just blank). In the bottom left I see a Script Error
>>> triangle. Click to view the script errors and I see a 'blank' script
>>> error
>>> window. This window has the script topics, but each one is blank. Oh,
>>> did
>>> I mention there are 30+ script error windows, each asking if I want to
>>> continue running scripts? Only problem is each window has no actual
>>> error
>>> information, all blank.
>>>
>>> At this point since my profile (the first profile installed on the
>>> laptop)
>>> works fine, let's just blow out her profile and see if that helps.
>>>
>>> Now the problem gets interesting...her new profile doesn't display My
>>> Computer, My Documents, Network Places or IE. I right-click the desktop
>>> and
>>> choose the Desktop tab and I see check boxes for My Computer, My
>>> Documents
>>> and Network Places, but no check box for IE. Keep in mind now that IE
>>> is
>>> still the primary browser on my account - but there's no option to turn
>>> on
>>> this icon.
>>>
>>> I run about a million virus checks thinking I've got something - all
>>> come
>>> back clean.
>>>
>>> I do a system restore to get her profile back - and I see the IE icon
>>> (no
>>> shortcut arrow, the real deal) but when I right-click the desktop on her
>>> profile I don't see the IE checkbox. I can only assume had I checked
>>> that
>>> before deleting her account I'd have seen the same.
>>>
>>> Now I'm really confused, so I start searching groups other than
>>> Microsoft
>>> (because, yes, Microsoft, there's at least THREE DOZEN posts of this
>>> problem
>>> and not one has been answered!!). I find a ton of solutions from pop up
>>> blockers to Adobe Flash. Some have me adding registry entries of
>>> RunOnceComplete = 1 and some other one that's very similar (fixed the
>>> runonce page error, but not the scripts).
>>>
>>> Finally one promising one has me run a batch file that appears to
>>> basically
>>> reset all registry rights entries - this one actually gets Hotmail to
>>> display (albeit with some page bugs - list of options on the left is
>>> text
>>> instead of graphics). I think 'yay, I solved the problem that literally
>>> thousands of people have posted on!!' I log off of her account and go
>>> back to mine and try to look up the address of a great brewhouse to
>>> celebrate my victory over Microsoft (well, they never replied to
>>> anyone's
>>> post, so maybe it was by default since they never showed up to play, but
>>> I
>>> win none the less!!) and find out that Streets and Trips can't launch
>>> because of some installer problem - apparently that registry fix ruined
>>> almost ALL of my programs - from Streets and Trips to Office.
>>>
>>> Another system restore and we're back to her using IE to surf and
>>> FireFox
>>> to
>>> check her hotmail.
>>>
>>> Now, I've seen posts on how to fix the runonce error, seen posts on how
>>> to
>>> fix the 'no IE check box' problem, but if you take time to read the
>>> posts
>>> on
>>> the internet, each one is actually related - you'll see someone say
>>> 'Hey,
>>> thanks, the fix worked great!' If you keep reading, you'll see that
>>> user
>>> post again a week or two later with the other half of the issue.
>>> ===end post===
>>>
>>> So, let's see how long MS decides to let this post up on the boards for
>>> people to 'vote' on it to get it fixed...I wonder if it will last the
>>> entire
>>> day, or if someone from MS will take it down to hide their bug from us?
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>>> "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>> this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:06:01 -0800, Robert_L_Ross wrote:

> I see that Microsoft has again tried to hide issues brought up by customers.
>
> Yesterday I posted this problem and I see that in less than 24 hours, MS has
> removed it from the newsgroup, attempting to hide this issue from users.
>
> Remove it all you want, MS, I'm going to repost every time you take it down
> until you address this issue!

Assuming that you are referring to this post:

| Subject: Script Errors and more...
| Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:23:01 -0800
| Message-ID: <79F9EC37-A0F6-464F-B185-38B2F6A2036C@microsoft.com>

Which I just located after a fresh header download at 11:18 today, Jan. 29,
2007. Microsoft did not take your post down.

By this header line:

| X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

....I see that you are using your web browser to access these groups. I find
web access to these groups to be very clunky. Navigating news groups with a
web browser, instead of an NNTP client, can be very difficult. I would
suggest that you either get more practice using your browser, or you switch
to using an NNTP client (which is my preference for newsgroup access).

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:58:04 -0800, Robert_L_Ross wrote:

> Everyone is missing my point...if it's not on THIS group, then how can people
> 'vote for this suggestion'??

It *is* on the server. Everybody is telling you that it is on the server
***IN THIS GROUP***.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

From: "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net>


|
| It *is* on the server. Everybody is telling you that it is on the server
| ***IN THIS GROUP***.
|

Ditto!

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Robert_L_Ross wrote:
> I see that Microsoft has again tried to hide issues brought up by customers.
>
> Yesterday I posted this problem and I see that in less than 24 hours, MS has
> removed it from the newsgroup, attempting to hide this issue from users.

snipped extraneous material which appears in an earlier post...

Robert, you really need to learn how to perform certain basic tasks
before complaining -- it avoids much potential embarrassment. Reading
newsgroups would be an excellent place to start learning. First rule:
_never_ try to use the wrong tool for the job -- if you want to use the
newsgroups then use a newsreader. Even OE will do the job in a pinch.

I am not an apologist for MS -- their products and practices often seem
problematic to me -- but censoring criticism in the newsgroups does not
seem to be something they bother with.

John McGaw
http://johnmcgaw.com

Yesterday, when I went to
"http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx" and
did a search for "Busted" this post did NOT show up. It was two posts BELOW
a post named "IE needs a 21st century plug-in model"

Now today I see it's showing up, 11 POSTS ABOVE the "IE needs a 21st century
plug-in model".

When you do a search and it doesn't show up, you have no choice but to
believe the post is no longer there...why does it show up in searches some
days but not on others? ...did it actually get moved off and for some
magical reason get put back up - in a different spot?

"Gordon" wrote:

> "Robert_L_Ross" <RobertLRoss@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1D4D640E-89ED-41B1-9782-88A03502F389@microsoft.com...
> > Everyone is missing my point...if it's not on THIS group, then how can
> > people
> > 'vote for this suggestion'??
> >
> > When they move the post to the other group,
>
> What "other" group ? they are where they always have been,
> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
>
>
>

Contrary to what most people get to experience - not all companies allow
users to just install any software they please on their pc any time they feel
like it.

On the PC I used to search and access this thread, we only have IE and the
company doesn't permit any software other than what's on their list of
programs to be installed.

I find it funny that everyone says 'oh, you are using the wrong tool for the
job', yet when you go to MS's site it gives you the newsgroup in IE, that
every MS Defender out there will say has no problems. MS can't even keep
their own newsgroups appearing correctly in their own program.

"John McGaw" wrote:

> Robert_L_Ross wrote:
> > I see that Microsoft has again tried to hide issues brought up by customers.
> >
> > Yesterday I posted this problem and I see that in less than 24 hours, MS has
> > removed it from the newsgroup, attempting to hide this issue from users.
>
> snipped extraneous material which appears in an earlier post...
>
> Robert, you really need to learn how to perform certain basic tasks
> before complaining -- it avoids much potential embarrassment. Reading
> newsgroups would be an excellent place to start learning. First rule:
> _never_ try to use the wrong tool for the job -- if you want to use the
> newsgroups then use a newsreader. Even OE will do the job in a pinch.
>
> I am not an apologist for MS -- their products and practices often seem
> problematic to me -- but censoring criticism in the newsgroups does not
> seem to be something they bother with.
>
> John McGaw
> http://johnmcgaw.com
>

WOW...that's an intelligent post. Lemme guess, you work for MS software
development?

"AO3" wrote:

>
> They're coming to take you away, HA HA
> They're coming to take you away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
> To the funny farm
> Where life is beautiful all the time
> And you'll be happy to see
> Those nice, young men
> In their clean, white coats
> And they're coming to take you away, -Ha-haaa!-
>
> -Are they spying on you through the TV?-
>
>
> --
> AO3
>