Can access a particular site from a particular computer

#1 (**permalink**) 01-07-2008, 02:20 PM

The IT guys at work can't figure this out, but I hope that one of you guys
out there knows something that they don't.

Here's the problem - I have a web site that's web forwarded so as to get
around Verizon's blocking of port 80. In this case,
www.haggard-and-associates.com gets forwarded by ZoneEdit to
ww2.haggard-and-associates.com:8081. This works for most web browsers
looking at the web site here at work. However, my computer just can't see
the site. I've tried the usual things, made sure my computer's firewall is
not blocking the port, delete cookies, add the site to the trusted list
(it's my own web site - if I can't trust myself then I'm in a heap of
trouble) but nothing I've tried gets me through. Suggestions?

--
Richard Lewis Haggard
General: www.Haggard-And-Associates.com
Please come visit here for thousands of good giggles!:
www.haggard-and-associates.com/Humor/humor.htm

#2 (**permalink**) 01-08-2008, 10:21 AM

"Richard Lewis Haggard" <HaggardAtWorldDotStdDotCom> wrote in message
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> The IT guys at work can't figure this out, but I hope that one of you guys
> out there knows something that they don't.
>
> Here's the problem - I have a web site that's web forwarded so as to get
> around Verizon's blocking of port 80.

Explain?

> In this case,
> www.haggard-and-associates.com gets forwarded by ZoneEdit to
> ww2.haggard-and-associates.com:8081.

No. The first site's default page is a frameset which opens a page
from that other server on its nonstandard port. The frameset is served
on the default HTTP port (80).

The only relation that I can see with that ZoneEDit site is via nslookup:

<nslookup>
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: wfb.zoneedit.com
Addresses: 216.98.141.250, 69.72.142.98
Aliases: www.haggard-and-associates.com
</nslookup>

> This works for most web browsers
> looking at the web site here at work. However, my computer just can't see
> the site.

Doing what? Opening the frameset or opening the port 8081 page directly?

> I've tried the usual things, made sure my computer's firewall is
> not blocking the port, delete cookies, add the site to the trusted list
> (it's my own web site - if I can't trust myself then I'm in a heap of
> trouble) but nothing I've tried gets me through. Suggestions?

Is a proxy involved? There has previously been a problem with authentication
through a proxy to a non-standard port.

Use Fiddler2 to see what is happening. It's a proxy too but you can set it up
so that it will chain proxies if necessary.

FWIW I think there's probably a coding error in the frameset being sent.
E.g. what does the second <frame> tag do? It looks like somebody duplicated
the <frameset> tag and then relabeled it? That probably works because there is
no DOCTYPE so the frameset is in quirks mode.

Hmm... F6 twice and then Menu, View Source shows <HTML></HTML>
so looks like IE7 figures that one out...

It upset the W3C Validator at least--22 errors in 9 lines of code... ; )

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...ssociates.com/

If you need help fixing that a better forum would be the MSDN
forum for web developers.

Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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#3 (**permalink**) 02-02-2008, 10:50 PM

"Richard Lewis Haggard" <HaggardAtWorldDotStdDotCom> wrote in message
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> [Xref: TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general:180114]

Richard,

Did you forget to post or is your computer's date badly out? <eg>

<telnet>
221 Xhdr information follows
180110 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:18:56 -0600
180111 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:34:38 -0500
180112 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:28:00 -0800
180113 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:44:00 -0800

180114 Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:10:07 -0500

180115 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 19:00:02 -0600
180116 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:06:01 -0800
180117 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:08:00 -0800
180118 Sat, 2 Feb 2008 20:09:21 -0500
</telnet>

> When my own work computer tries to display the contents of www.haggard-and-associates.com, it displays "Waiting for
> http://www.haggard-and-associates.com/..." in the bottom status bar but otherwise does nothing apparent. After a while, it gives
> up and an error is displayed.

Have you tried my suggestion of opening the frame instead of the frameset?

>
> Network Access Message: The page cannot be displayed
> Explanation: The request timed out before the page could be retrieved.
> Try the following:
> Refresh page: ...
> Check spelling: ...
> Contact website: ...
>
> If you are still not able to view the requested page, try contacting your administrator or Helpdesk.
>
> Technical Information (for support personnel)
> Error Code 10060: Connection timeout
> Background: the gateway could not receive a timely response from the website you are trying to access. This might indicate that
> the network is congested, or that the website is experiencing technical difficulties.
> Date: 1/9/2008 8:01:19 PM [GMT]
> Server: IT-PROX1.<snipped - company proxy>
> Source: Firewall

Your proxy/firewall is probably the source of your problems.
Have you tried looking to see if there are diagnostics on it
which show what happens to the request(s)?

Note that because you are trying to open your site using
the frameset you don't know which you can't open.
Or have you done more diagnosis that you aren't disclosing? ; )

>
> The thing about all of this is, a neighbor in the next cubical has no trouble browsing to my web site so that sort of indicates
> that the problem is not exclusively from my website.

Then I suspect you are both configured for the proxy differently. ; )

> I suspect that there is an interaction between the web forward to port 8081 and something in my own work computer with a
> possibility of the company firewall or proxy getting involved.

That's why I want you to try opening the link for the frame explicitly
without referencing the frameset at all.

> However, since my neighbor can browse my personal web site, it doesn't seem reasonable to me that the problem is exclusively in
> the domain of the company proxy.

Perhaps he is using the frame instead of the frameset already? <eg>

>
> As for the various errors and what not you mentioned - the site is produced completely by Front Page and I'm not a specialist in
> HTML. Give me C++ or C# and I'm a wiz but web stuff is black magic to me.

Hardly rocket science but I understand that it is quite easy to screw stuff up
using Front Page... ; }

Good luck

Robert
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