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Old 12-20-2007, 01:10 AM
Greg Steirer
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IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific site
that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the same
thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE 6.0 or
7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our sites; I
could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had the
problem.

After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration' feature
and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly from
within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back into
IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire immediately'
and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered with the setting and
set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the images to still
save properly.

So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation. What this means is that
IE is interpreting this setting through the HTTP header and it is causing the
'save image as' problem because of some malfunction in IE. Other web servers
can pass this info with the HTTP header, so IIS is not the only contributor
to the problem. If anyone out there has something to contribute to this
important discovery, please chime in. Someone from MS, please review this
post and see if it can be validated as being accurate.

--
Best Regards, Greg Steirer

-------------------------------
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President
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Son Integration, Inc.
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:11 AM
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

"Greg Steirer" <sbfforum@sonint.com> wrote in message
news:9281F9D8-4ACC-4D5B-B52F-C9FE7118B06D@microsoft.com...
>I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific site
> that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the same
> thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE 6.0 or
> 7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our sites; I
> could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had the
> problem.
>
> After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
> the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration' feature
> and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
> restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly from
> within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back into
> IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire immediately'
> and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered with the setting and
> set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the images to still
> save properly.
>
> So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
> knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation.



Of course. If the image is not cached, there is nowhere for IE to get a copy
of it except from the image it has already rendered, which it can produce in
BMP format. Otherwise it would have to hang on to the original downloaded
file in storage on the off chance that someone would want to save it or
print it.


---


> What this means is that
> IE is interpreting this setting through the HTTP header and it is causing the
> 'save image as' problem because of some malfunction in IE. Other web servers
> can pass this info with the HTTP header, so IIS is not the only contributor
> to the problem. If anyone out there has something to contribute to this
> important discovery, please chime in. Someone from MS, please review this
> post and see if it can be validated as being accurate.
>
> --
> Best Regards, Greg Steirer
>
> -------------------------------
> Greg Steirer
> President
> (951) 278-0800 x7000
>
> Son Integration, Inc.
> IT Solutions for Your Business
> www.sonint.com
>
> SmartRabbit
> Multiply Your Business
> www.smartrabbit.com
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:20 AM
Greg Steirer
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Re: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

That was my assumption. But how does Mozilla handle this? It does not have
the same problem...
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-------------------------------
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IT Solutions for Your Business


"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "Greg Steirer" <sbfforum@sonint.com> wrote in message
> news:9281F9D8-4ACC-4D5B-B52F-C9FE7118B06D@microsoft.com...
> >I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific site
> > that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the same
> > thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE 6.0 or
> > 7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our sites; I
> > could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had the
> > problem.
> >
> > After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
> > the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration' feature
> > and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
> > restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly from
> > within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back into
> > IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire immediately'
> > and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered with the setting and
> > set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the images to still
> > save properly.
> >
> > So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
> > knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation.

>
>
> Of course. If the image is not cached, there is nowhere for IE to get a copy
> of it except from the image it has already rendered, which it can produce in
> BMP format. Otherwise it would have to hang on to the original downloaded
> file in storage on the off chance that someone would want to save it or
> print it.
>
>
> ---
>
>
> > What this means is that
> > IE is interpreting this setting through the HTTP header and it is causing the
> > 'save image as' problem because of some malfunction in IE. Other web servers
> > can pass this info with the HTTP header, so IIS is not the only contributor
> > to the problem. If anyone out there has something to contribute to this
> > important discovery, please chime in. Someone from MS, please review this
> > post and see if it can be validated as being accurate.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards, Greg Steirer
> >
> > -------------------------------
> > Greg Steirer
> > President
> > (951) 278-0800 x7000
> >
> > Son Integration, Inc.
> > IT Solutions for Your Business
> > www.sonint.com
> >
> > SmartRabbit
> > Multiply Your Business
> > www.smartrabbit.com
> >
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general

>
>
>

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Old 12-20-2007, 03:41 PM
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

"Greg Steirer" <sbfforum@sonint.com> wrote in message
news:F30ED105-5AA7-4B2A-97BD-EB7BA0E3E385@microsoft.com...
> That was my assumption. But how does Mozilla handle this? It does not have
> the same problem...



I've never used Mozilla. One guess would be that it could ignore no-cache
directives and cache images anyway. Then it would have a simple way of
accessing a copy of the file. Otherwise its implementation might be the
alternative that I proposed.


Robert
---


> --
> Best Regards, Greg Steirer
>
> -------------------------------
> Greg Steirer
> President
> (951) 278-0800 x201
>
> Son Integration, Inc.
> IT Solutions for Your Business
>
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
>> "Greg Steirer" <sbfforum@sonint.com> wrote in message
>> news:9281F9D8-4ACC-4D5B-B52F-C9FE7118B06D@microsoft.com...
>> >I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific site
>> > that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the same
>> > thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE 6.0 or
>> > 7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our sites; I
>> > could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had the
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
>> > the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration' feature
>> > and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
>> > restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly from
>> > within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back into
>> > IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire immediately'
>> > and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered with the setting and
>> > set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the images to still
>> > save properly.
>> >
>> > So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
>> > knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation.

>>
>>
>> Of course. If the image is not cached, there is nowhere for IE to get a copy
>> of it except from the image it has already rendered, which it can produce in
>> BMP format. Otherwise it would have to hang on to the original downloaded
>> file in storage on the off chance that someone would want to save it or
>> print it.


....


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Old 03-28-2009, 02:23 PM
colin2546
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RE: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

I've had the same problem of unable to save as jpegs, any chance of writing a
idots guide on how to setup IE 7 so it's able to save in anything but bitmap.
thanks

"Greg Steirer" wrote:

> I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific site
> that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the same
> thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE 6.0 or
> 7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our sites; I
> could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had the
> problem.
>
> After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
> the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration' feature
> and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
> restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly from
> within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back into
> IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire immediately'
> and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered with the setting and
> set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the images to still
> save properly.
>
> So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
> knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation. What this means is that
> IE is interpreting this setting through the HTTP header and it is causing the
> 'save image as' problem because of some malfunction in IE. Other web servers
> can pass this info with the HTTP header, so IIS is not the only contributor
> to the problem. If anyone out there has something to contribute to this
> important discovery, please chime in. Someone from MS, please review this
> post and see if it can be validated as being accurate.
>
> --
> Best Regards, Greg Steirer
>
> -------------------------------
> Greg Steirer
> President
> (951) 278-0800 x7000
>
> Son Integration, Inc.
> IT Solutions for Your Business
> www.sonint.com
>
> SmartRabbit
> Multiply Your Business
> www.smartrabbit.com
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:23 PM
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Re: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

Delete your Temporary Internet Files.

colin2546 wrote:
> I've had the same problem of unable to save as jpegs, any chance of
> writing
> a idots guide on how to setup IE 7 so it's able to save in anything but
> bitmap. thanks
>
> "Greg Steirer" wrote:
>
>> I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific
>> site
>> that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the
>> same thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE
>> 6.0 or
>> 7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our
>> sites;
>> I could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had
>> the
>> problem.
>>
>> After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
>> the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration'
>> feature
>> and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
>> restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly
>> from
>> within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back
>> into
>> IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire
>> immediately' and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered
>> with
>> the setting and set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the
>> images to still save properly.
>>
>> So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
>> knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation. What this means is
>> that IE is interpreting this setting through the HTTP header and it is
>> causing the 'save image as' problem because of some malfunction in IE.
>> Other web servers can pass this info with the HTTP header, so IIS is not
>> the only contributor to the problem. If anyone out there has something
>> to
>> contribute to this important discovery, please chime in. Someone from
>> MS,
>> please review this post and see if it can be validated as being accurate.
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards, Greg Steirer
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> Greg Steirer
>> President
>> (951) 278-0800 x7000
>>
>> Son Integration, Inc.
>> IT Solutions for Your Business
>> www.sonint.com
>>
>> SmartRabbit
>> Multiply Your Business
>> www.smartrabbit.com
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
>> and
>> then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:24 PM
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RE: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

I've tried emptying temp cache, removed corrupted downloads, the lot.
It still will only save in bitmap.
Is there anything in your registry which can be corrupted in anyway?

"Greg Steirer" wrote:

> I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific site
> that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the same
> thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE 6.0 or
> 7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our sites; I
> could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had the
> problem.
>
> After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
> the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration' feature
> and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
> restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly from
> within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back into
> IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire immediately'
> and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered with the setting and
> set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the images to still
> save properly.
>
> So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
> knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation. What this means is that
> IE is interpreting this setting through the HTTP header and it is causing the
> 'save image as' problem because of some malfunction in IE. Other web servers
> can pass this info with the HTTP header, so IIS is not the only contributor
> to the problem. If anyone out there has something to contribute to this
> important discovery, please chime in. Someone from MS, please review this
> post and see if it can be validated as being accurate.
>
> --
> Best Regards, Greg Steirer
>
> -------------------------------
> Greg Steirer
> President
> (951) 278-0800 x7000
>
> Son Integration, Inc.
> IT Solutions for Your Business
> www.sonint.com
>
> SmartRabbit
> Multiply Your Business
> www.smartrabbit.com
>
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:24 PM
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Re: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

Internet Explorer saves images as bitmaps (.bmp Files):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810978

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colin2546 wrote:
> I've tried emptying temp cache, removed corrupted downloads, the lot.
> It still will only save in bitmap.
> Is there anything in your registry which can be corrupted in anyway?
>
> "Greg Steirer" wrote:
>
>> I have been battling the 'Save Image As' Untitled.bmp with a specific
>> site
>> that I run. I have looked up info on this problem but came up with the
>> same thing - "clear your IE cache" which typically doesn't work with IE
>> 6.0 or
>> 7.0. The curious thing is that it was only happening on one of our
>> sites;
>> I could visit one site and save images properly, but this one site had
>> the
>> problem.
>>
>> After much review, I found that the difference was a setting in IIS under
>> the HTTP Headers tab. I was using the 'enable content expiration'
>> feature
>> and the setting was checked to 'expire immediately'. I unchecked it,
>> restarted the website and VOILA, I could save all the images properly
>> from
>> within IE 6 or IE 7. I tried to reproduce the problem, so I went back
>> into
>> IIS, I checked 'enable content expiration', and selected 'expire
>> immediately' and bingo, the Untitled.bmp problem appears. I tinkered
>> with
>> the setting and set it to 'expire after 1 minute' and this allows for the
>> images to still save properly.
>>
>> So there you have it. I have not seen this mentioned anywhere, and to my
>> knowledge, Microsoft has not made this correlation. What this means is
>> that IE is interpreting this setting through the HTTP header and it is
>> causing the 'save image as' problem because of some malfunction in IE.
>> Other web servers can pass this info with the HTTP header, so IIS is not
>> the only contributor to the problem. If anyone out there has something
>> to
>> contribute to this important discovery, please chime in. Someone from
>> MS,
>> please review this post and see if it can be validated as being accurate.
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards, Greg Steirer
>>
>> -------------------------------
>> Greg Steirer
>> President
>> (951) 278-0800 x7000
>>
>> Son Integration, Inc.
>> IT Solutions for Your Business
>> www.sonint.com
>>
>> SmartRabbit
>> Multiply Your Business
>> www.smartrabbit.com
>>
>>
>> ----------------
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>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:25 PM
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
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Re: IE 'Save Image As' Bitmap - Actual Problem Identified

"colin2546" <colin2546@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I've tried emptying temp cache, removed corrupted downloads, the lot.
> It still will only save in bitmap.
> Is there anything in your registry which can be corrupted in anyway?



That happens when the Temporary Internet Files are too full. In IE click
Tools | Internet Options. Click Delete Files in the Temporary Internet
files section of the General tab. On the next window place a check mark in
the box to Delete all offline content.

If that doesn't fix it, go to Tools | Internet Options | Advanced and scroll
down to the Security section. Uncheck "Do not save encrypted pages to
disk".

Click Start/Run and type this command to fix the 'Content Type' settings:

regsvr32 /i mshtml.dll
(and/or)
regsvr32 /i shimgvw.dll (for WinXP)

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