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Old 09-19-2007, 04:01 AM
René Ziller
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Re: Printing Problems in IE7 with Span and Table

Hi Rob,

sorry, the workaround wouldn't work. The span-tag has no Attribute height,
so it can only set by style. The problem doesn't occour at your links because
you only set Height to 100% as property (this will be ignored) and has no
effect.

if you set the height in style rather as attribute the problem will also
occour in 'ppfix.htm'.

The reason of this construct i use is a tamplate that build a consistent
border with navigate around an arbitrary content. the height (and also width)
at 100% ensures that the content fills the border complete. It works in IE6
(where i create and test it). The problem is new in IE7.

The parent table has no 100% height attribute, because it is not necessary
to show the problem (in praktice it has).

I would try to remove the span in print-layout, hope it has no other effects

regards

René


"René Ziller" wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> great thanks at first. I tried to report this issue in MS Connect-Feedback
> site, but the IE-part is closed and link to this ng.
>
> I tried the Websites you linked, but in my IE7, it works fine (without the
> preview-pagecounting bug).
>
> So i'm a little bit confused and i set by myself a border style and now the
> page can be print.
>
> Thank you: I have a very simple to implement workaround without to redesign
> my complete websites.
>
> I wish MS would fix the bug, so a workaraound isn't necassary.
>
> Great thanks also to put it on MS Buglist (or whatever it named).
>
> Regards
>
> René
>
> "Rob ^_^" wrote:
>
> > Hi Rene,
> > Yep I can confirm that your html code causes the Print Preview to enter an
> > endless loop.
> >
> > I have posted the code on my server
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPBug.htm
> > and
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPFix.htm
> >
> > (BTW. If you can, post your code samples to a server. Copy and paste from
> > these NG's does not work so well and requires alot of work to test)
> >
> > The PPFix.htm page has the first table with a height property of 100% also,
> > so to me this indicates a "hasLayout" issue.
> > see IE7 and CSS
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...css_compat.asp
> >
> > Also both pages work fine in the Print Preview of other browsers, however
> > the layout is completely different.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is little hope that this will attract the attention of
> > the IE7 dev team (now working on v8 and XP SP3) as this is a public NG which
> > they rarely visit and they use a limited number of testers for bug
> > reporting.
> >
> > I am a MSMVP (which does not mean much) and the best I can do is to repost
> > your report to a private NG that MSFT's visit. Someone may pick it up and
> > add it to their features list.
> >
> > I am sure this is not the only feature of IE7 and as you can see there are
> > workarounds.
> >
> > I just goes to show the importance of UAT.
> >
> > Regards.

> ...

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Old 09-19-2007, 04:01 AM
René Ziller
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Re: Printing Problems in IE7 with Span and Table

Hi Rob,

sorry, the workaround wouldn't work. The span-tag has no Attribute height,
so it can only set by style. The problem doesn't occour at your links because
you only set Height to 100% as property (this will be ignored) and has no
effect.

if you set the height in style rather as attribute the problem will also
occour in 'ppfix.htm'.

The reason of this construct i use is a tamplate that build a consistent
border with navigate around an arbitrary content. the height (and also width)
at 100% ensures that the content fills the border complete. It works in IE6
(where i create and test it). The problem is new in IE7.

The parent table has no 100% height attribute, because it is not necessary
to show the problem (in praktice it has).

I would try to remove the span in print-layout, hope it has no other effects

regards

René


"René Ziller" wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> great thanks at first. I tried to report this issue in MS Connect-Feedback
> site, but the IE-part is closed and link to this ng.
>
> I tried the Websites you linked, but in my IE7, it works fine (without the
> preview-pagecounting bug).
>
> So i'm a little bit confused and i set by myself a border style and now the
> page can be print.
>
> Thank you: I have a very simple to implement workaround without to redesign
> my complete websites.
>
> I wish MS would fix the bug, so a workaraound isn't necassary.
>
> Great thanks also to put it on MS Buglist (or whatever it named).
>
> Regards
>
> René
>
> "Rob ^_^" wrote:
>
> > Hi Rene,
> > Yep I can confirm that your html code causes the Print Preview to enter an
> > endless loop.
> >
> > I have posted the code on my server
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPBug.htm
> > and
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPFix.htm
> >
> > (BTW. If you can, post your code samples to a server. Copy and paste from
> > these NG's does not work so well and requires alot of work to test)
> >
> > The PPFix.htm page has the first table with a height property of 100% also,
> > so to me this indicates a "hasLayout" issue.
> > see IE7 and CSS
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...css_compat.asp
> >
> > Also both pages work fine in the Print Preview of other browsers, however
> > the layout is completely different.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is little hope that this will attract the attention of
> > the IE7 dev team (now working on v8 and XP SP3) as this is a public NG which
> > they rarely visit and they use a limited number of testers for bug
> > reporting.
> >
> > I am a MSMVP (which does not mean much) and the best I can do is to repost
> > your report to a private NG that MSFT's visit. Someone may pick it up and
> > add it to their features list.
> >
> > I am sure this is not the only feature of IE7 and as you can see there are
> > workarounds.
> >
> > I just goes to show the importance of UAT.
> >
> > Regards.

> ...

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Old 09-19-2007, 04:01 AM
René Ziller
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Re: Printing Problems in IE7 with Span and Table

Hi Rob,

sorry, the workaround wouldn't work. The span-tag has no Attribute height,
so it can only set by style. The problem doesn't occour at your links because
you only set Height to 100% as property (this will be ignored) and has no
effect.

if you set the height in style rather as attribute the problem will also
occour in 'ppfix.htm'.

The reason of this construct i use is a tamplate that build a consistent
border with navigate around an arbitrary content. the height (and also width)
at 100% ensures that the content fills the border complete. It works in IE6
(where i create and test it). The problem is new in IE7.

The parent table has no 100% height attribute, because it is not necessary
to show the problem (in praktice it has).

I would try to remove the span in print-layout, hope it has no other effects

regards

René


"René Ziller" wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> great thanks at first. I tried to report this issue in MS Connect-Feedback
> site, but the IE-part is closed and link to this ng.
>
> I tried the Websites you linked, but in my IE7, it works fine (without the
> preview-pagecounting bug).
>
> So i'm a little bit confused and i set by myself a border style and now the
> page can be print.
>
> Thank you: I have a very simple to implement workaround without to redesign
> my complete websites.
>
> I wish MS would fix the bug, so a workaraound isn't necassary.
>
> Great thanks also to put it on MS Buglist (or whatever it named).
>
> Regards
>
> René
>
> "Rob ^_^" wrote:
>
> > Hi Rene,
> > Yep I can confirm that your html code causes the Print Preview to enter an
> > endless loop.
> >
> > I have posted the code on my server
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPBug.htm
> > and
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPFix.htm
> >
> > (BTW. If you can, post your code samples to a server. Copy and paste from
> > these NG's does not work so well and requires alot of work to test)
> >
> > The PPFix.htm page has the first table with a height property of 100% also,
> > so to me this indicates a "hasLayout" issue.
> > see IE7 and CSS
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...css_compat.asp
> >
> > Also both pages work fine in the Print Preview of other browsers, however
> > the layout is completely different.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is little hope that this will attract the attention of
> > the IE7 dev team (now working on v8 and XP SP3) as this is a public NG which
> > they rarely visit and they use a limited number of testers for bug
> > reporting.
> >
> > I am a MSMVP (which does not mean much) and the best I can do is to repost
> > your report to a private NG that MSFT's visit. Someone may pick it up and
> > add it to their features list.
> >
> > I am sure this is not the only feature of IE7 and as you can see there are
> > workarounds.
> >
> > I just goes to show the importance of UAT.
> >
> > Regards.

> ...

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Old 09-19-2007, 04:01 AM
René Ziller
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Re: Printing Problems in IE7 with Span and Table

Hi Rob,

sorry, the workaround wouldn't work. The span-tag has no Attribute height,
so it can only set by style. The problem doesn't occour at your links because
you only set Height to 100% as property (this will be ignored) and has no
effect.

if you set the height in style rather as attribute the problem will also
occour in 'ppfix.htm'.

The reason of this construct i use is a tamplate that build a consistent
border with navigate around an arbitrary content. the height (and also width)
at 100% ensures that the content fills the border complete. It works in IE6
(where i create and test it). The problem is new in IE7.

The parent table has no 100% height attribute, because it is not necessary
to show the problem (in praktice it has).

I would try to remove the span in print-layout, hope it has no other effects

regards

René


"René Ziller" wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> great thanks at first. I tried to report this issue in MS Connect-Feedback
> site, but the IE-part is closed and link to this ng.
>
> I tried the Websites you linked, but in my IE7, it works fine (without the
> preview-pagecounting bug).
>
> So i'm a little bit confused and i set by myself a border style and now the
> page can be print.
>
> Thank you: I have a very simple to implement workaround without to redesign
> my complete websites.
>
> I wish MS would fix the bug, so a workaraound isn't necassary.
>
> Great thanks also to put it on MS Buglist (or whatever it named).
>
> Regards
>
> René
>
> "Rob ^_^" wrote:
>
> > Hi Rene,
> > Yep I can confirm that your html code causes the Print Preview to enter an
> > endless loop.
> >
> > I have posted the code on my server
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPBug.htm
> > and
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPFix.htm
> >
> > (BTW. If you can, post your code samples to a server. Copy and paste from
> > these NG's does not work so well and requires alot of work to test)
> >
> > The PPFix.htm page has the first table with a height property of 100% also,
> > so to me this indicates a "hasLayout" issue.
> > see IE7 and CSS
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...css_compat.asp
> >
> > Also both pages work fine in the Print Preview of other browsers, however
> > the layout is completely different.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is little hope that this will attract the attention of
> > the IE7 dev team (now working on v8 and XP SP3) as this is a public NG which
> > they rarely visit and they use a limited number of testers for bug
> > reporting.
> >
> > I am a MSMVP (which does not mean much) and the best I can do is to repost
> > your report to a private NG that MSFT's visit. Someone may pick it up and
> > add it to their features list.
> >
> > I am sure this is not the only feature of IE7 and as you can see there are
> > workarounds.
> >
> > I just goes to show the importance of UAT.
> >
> > Regards.

> ...

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Old 09-19-2007, 04:02 AM
René Ziller
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Re: Printing Problems in IE7 with Span and Table

Hi Rob,

great thanks at first. I tried to report this issue in MS Connect-Feedback
site, but the IE-part is closed and link to this ng.

I tried the Websites you linked, but in my IE7, it works fine (without the
preview-pagecounting bug).

So i'm a little bit confused and i set by myself a border style and now the
page can be print.

Thank you: I have a very simple to implement workaround without to redesign
my complete websites.

I wish MS would fix the bug, so a workaraound isn't necassary.

Great thanks also to put it on MS Buglist (or whatever it named).

Regards

René

"Rob ^_^" wrote:

> Hi Rene,
> Yep I can confirm that your html code causes the Print Preview to enter an
> endless loop.
>
> I have posted the code on my server
> http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPBug.htm
> and
> http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPFix.htm
>
> (BTW. If you can, post your code samples to a server. Copy and paste from
> these NG's does not work so well and requires alot of work to test)
>
> The PPFix.htm page has the first table with a height property of 100% also,
> so to me this indicates a "hasLayout" issue.
> see IE7 and CSS
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...css_compat.asp
>
> Also both pages work fine in the Print Preview of other browsers, however
> the layout is completely different.
>
> Unfortunately there is little hope that this will attract the attention of
> the IE7 dev team (now working on v8 and XP SP3) as this is a public NG which
> they rarely visit and they use a limited number of testers for bug
> reporting.
>
> I am a MSMVP (which does not mean much) and the best I can do is to repost
> your report to a private NG that MSFT's visit. Someone may pick it up and
> add it to their features list.
>
> I am sure this is not the only feature of IE7 and as you can see there are
> workarounds.
>
> I just goes to show the importance of UAT.
>
> Regards.

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Old 09-19-2007, 04:02 AM
René Ziller
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Re: Printing Problems in IE7 with Span and Table

Hi Rob,

sorry, the workaround wouldn't work. The span-tag has no Attribute height,
so it can only set by style. The problem doesn't occour at your links because
you only set Height to 100% as property (this will be ignored) and has no
effect.

if you set the height in style rather as attribute the problem will also
occour in 'ppfix.htm'.

The reason of this construct i use is a tamplate that build a consistent
border with navigate around an arbitrary content. the height (and also width)
at 100% ensures that the content fills the border complete. It works in IE6
(where i create and test it). The problem is new in IE7.

The parent table has no 100% height attribute, because it is not necessary
to show the problem (in praktice it has).

I would try to remove the span in print-layout, hope it has no other effects

regards

René


"René Ziller" wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> great thanks at first. I tried to report this issue in MS Connect-Feedback
> site, but the IE-part is closed and link to this ng.
>
> I tried the Websites you linked, but in my IE7, it works fine (without the
> preview-pagecounting bug).
>
> So i'm a little bit confused and i set by myself a border style and now the
> page can be print.
>
> Thank you: I have a very simple to implement workaround without to redesign
> my complete websites.
>
> I wish MS would fix the bug, so a workaraound isn't necassary.
>
> Great thanks also to put it on MS Buglist (or whatever it named).
>
> Regards
>
> René
>
> "Rob ^_^" wrote:
>
> > Hi Rene,
> > Yep I can confirm that your html code causes the Print Preview to enter an
> > endless loop.
> >
> > I have posted the code on my server
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPBug.htm
> > and
> > http://www.iecustomizer.com/MSMVP/PPFix.htm
> >
> > (BTW. If you can, post your code samples to a server. Copy and paste from
> > these NG's does not work so well and requires alot of work to test)
> >
> > The PPFix.htm page has the first table with a height property of 100% also,
> > so to me this indicates a "hasLayout" issue.
> > see IE7 and CSS
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...css_compat.asp
> >
> > Also both pages work fine in the Print Preview of other browsers, however
> > the layout is completely different.
> >
> > Unfortunately there is little hope that this will attract the attention of
> > the IE7 dev team (now working on v8 and XP SP3) as this is a public NG which
> > they rarely visit and they use a limited number of testers for bug
> > reporting.
> >
> > I am a MSMVP (which does not mean much) and the best I can do is to repost
> > your report to a private NG that MSFT's visit. Someone may pick it up and
> > add it to their features list.
> >
> > I am sure this is not the only feature of IE7 and as you can see there are
> > workarounds.
> >
> > I just goes to show the importance of UAT.
> >
> > Regards.

> ...

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