The browser included in Vista won't display .tif images inline (img
src="xxxx.tif") and just displays a broken image icon instead.

This was a problem WAY back in Internet Explorer 6 when SP1 was installed
and a hotfix was generated (824220) presumable because Microsoft realized it
needed to be fixed.... so what's the problem in Vista?

I was planning to migrate an entire office from Windows 2000 to Vista and I
never imagined for a minute that we'd be going BACKWARDS in functionality.

Is there a hotfix that "search" just can't find?

Hi,

Not many browsers(if any) support TIF/TIFF images in the <img> tag, not
Firefox, Opera, and certainly IE has never supported it.

The most common way that I'm aware of is to use the <embed> tag something
like this:

<embed width=200 height=200 src="some.tif" type="image/tiff" negative=yes>

You also need a plugin to be able to view them in a Browser, such as:

Quicktime Plug-in

AlternaTIFF Plug-in

More info:
http://www.alternatiff.com/howtoembed.html

Good luck,

Donald Anadell


"DBme" <DBme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4ADB3DC1-8254-404B-B7A8-E156861DD9D8@microsoft.com...
> The browser included in Vista won't display .tif images inline (img
> src="xxxx.tif") and just displays a broken image icon instead.
>
> This was a problem WAY back in Internet Explorer 6 when SP1 was installed
> and a hotfix was generated (824220) presumable because Microsoft realized
> it
> needed to be fixed.... so what's the problem in Vista?
>
> I was planning to migrate an entire office from Windows 2000 to Vista and
> I
> never imagined for a minute that we'd be going BACKWARDS in functionality.
>
> Is there a hotfix that "search" just can't find?

Thanks Donald.
I was unaware of using the embed option, and that will work great for pages
that I create (although I'm not sure how many TIF images I'd be displaying).
My question was about sites I don't control that DO specify tifs as if they
were any other graphic.

IE 5 & 6 did this just fine (displayed a Tif just like any other grraphic)
until IE6 SP1 which broke that option, but MS came out with a hotfix (824220,
I think) that made it work with IE6 again. So what I was wondering is ..
ifthey had enough reasons to generate a hotfix for IE6 ... why they'd "break"
it again in IE7.

In my case ... we'll just have to stick with Windows 2000 for another decade
or so -- I'm just not exceited about losing functionality I alreay have in
exchange for features I don't really need. lol

"Donald Anadell" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Not many browsers(if any) support TIF/TIFF images in the <img> tag, not
> Firefox, Opera, and certainly IE has never supported it.
>
> The most common way that I'm aware of is to use the <embed> tag something
> like this:
>
> <embed width=200 height=200 src="some.tif" type="image/tiff" negative=yes>
>
> You also need a plugin to be able to view them in a Browser, such as:
>
> Quicktime Plug-in
>
> AlternaTIFF Plug-in
>
> More info:
> http://www.alternatiff.com/howtoembed.html
>
> Good luck,
>
> Donald Anadell
>
>
> "DBme" <DBme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4ADB3DC1-8254-404B-B7A8-E156861DD9D8@microsoft.com...
> > The browser included in Vista won't display .tif images inline (img
> > src="xxxx.tif") and just displays a broken image icon instead.
> >
> > This was a problem WAY back in Internet Explorer 6 when SP1 was installed
> > and a hotfix was generated (824220) presumable because Microsoft realized
> > it
> > needed to be fixed.... so what's the problem in Vista?
> >
> > I was planning to migrate an entire office from Windows 2000 to Vista and
> > I
> > never imagined for a minute that we'd be going BACKWARDS in functionality.
> >
> > Is there a hotfix that "search" just can't find?
>
>
>

"DBme" <DBme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1C0D6580-BF40-48D7-8DC8-61714C0C01B8@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Donald.
> I was unaware of using the embed option, and that will work great for
> pages
> that I create (although I'm not sure how many TIF images I'd be
> displaying).
> My question was about sites I don't control that DO specify tifs as if
> they
> were any other graphic.

To the best of my knowledge, as long as the site doesn't specify the .tif in
an <img> tag, and you have a plug-in(Add-on) installed that will display the
..tif image in the browser(such as one of those plug-ins mentioned in my
previous reply) then you should be able to view .tif images in IE7 on both
a Windows Xp based machine and a Windows Vista based machine.

>
> IE 5 & 6 did this just fine (displayed a Tif just like any other grraphic)
> until IE6 SP1 which broke that option, but MS came out with a hotfix
> (824220,
> I think) that made it work with IE6 again. So what I was wondering is ..
> ifthey had enough reasons to generate a hotfix for IE6 ... why they'd
> "break"
> it again in IE7.

I don't have any working knowledge of the Windows 2000 operating system, so
what you saying may well be true with regard to native support for viewing
..tif images in the Broswer. But I don't think a Window Xp based machine has
ever had any native ability with the Browser to view .tif||.tiff images.
Seems to me it's always required a plug-in such as Quciktime in order to
have them display in the browser. With the file association for .tif files
and the MIME type "image/tiff" handled by the Quicktime plug-in.

>
> In my case ... we'll just have to stick with Windows 2000 for another
> decade
> or so --

LOL...well, maybe three years or so, as far as I know all Windows 2000
support including security updates will be terminated on July 13, 2010.

Good luck,

Donald Anadell



I'm just not exceited about losing functionality I alreay have in
> exchange for features I don't really need. lol
>
> "Donald Anadell" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not many browsers(if any) support TIF/TIFF images in the <img> tag, not
>> Firefox, Opera, and certainly IE has never supported it.
>>
>> The most common way that I'm aware of is to use the <embed> tag something
>> like this:
>>
>> <embed width=200 height=200 src="some.tif" type="image/tiff"
>> negative=yes>
>>
>> You also need a plugin to be able to view them in a Browser, such as:
>>
>> Quicktime Plug-in
>>
>> AlternaTIFF Plug-in
>>
>> More info:
>> http://www.alternatiff.com/howtoembed.html
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Donald Anadell
>>
>>
>> "DBme" <DBme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4ADB3DC1-8254-404B-B7A8-E156861DD9D8@microsoft.com...
>> > The browser included in Vista won't display .tif images inline (img
>> > src="xxxx.tif") and just displays a broken image icon instead.
>> >
>> > This was a problem WAY back in Internet Explorer 6 when SP1 was
>> > installed
>> > and a hotfix was generated (824220) presumable because Microsoft
>> > realized
>> > it
>> > needed to be fixed.... so what's the problem in Vista?
>> >
>> > I was planning to migrate an entire office from Windows 2000 to Vista
>> > and
>> > I
>> > never imagined for a minute that we'd be going BACKWARDS in
>> > functionality.
>> >
>> > Is there a hotfix that "search" just can't find?
>>
>>
>>

As I wrote last year, for some reason Internet Explorer 7 will not render a
..TIF file as an inline image <img tag> as Internet Explorer 5 & 6 did. IE7
requires a TIF preview plugin (such as alternatiff) which is problematic at
best and VASTLY inferior to the way IE 5&6 USED to perform the same function.

My question .... never accuratly answered here ... is why Microsoft chose to
REMOVE support for this?

IE 5 did it just fine.
IE 6 did it just fine -- until SP1 Broke it.
Recognizing that it was broken, Hotfix 8224220 was generated and it once
again worked.

Now IE7 comes along and it's broken AGAIN ... no hot fix this time .. and
we're told that this is a feature (it never was) and that IE 5 & 6 never
supported it (they certainly DID)

TIFF files may not be the way to properly deliver dirty pictures within a
web page, but for legal and medical purposes they remain the 'faithful
reproduction' that withstand legal challenges .. and there are billions of
TIFF images out there ... so why this big prejudice?

"DBme" wrote:

> The browser included in Vista won't display .tif images inline (img
> src="xxxx.tif") and just displays a broken image icon instead.
>
> This was a problem WAY back in Internet Explorer 6 when SP1 was installed
> and a hotfix was generated (824220) presumable because Microsoft realized it
> needed to be fixed.... so what's the problem in Vista?
>
> I was planning to migrate an entire office from Windows 2000 to Vista and I
> never imagined for a minute that we'd be going BACKWARDS in functionality.
>
> Is there a hotfix that "search" just can't find?

"DBme" <DBme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C07E2E20-86E2-4213-A6C4-73719CB93443@microsoft.com...
> As I wrote last year, for some reason Internet Explorer 7 will not render a
> .TIF file as an inline image <img tag> as Internet Explorer 5 & 6 did.

7/26/2007 8:13 AM PST
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...8-e156861dd9d8


> IE7
> requires a TIF preview plugin (such as alternatiff) which is problematic at
> best and VASTLY inferior to the way IE 5&6 USED to perform the same function.


That's the way IE has always supported TIF files in the OS that I have used.
XP supports TIF files using the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer
(E.g. press Win-R and enter: rundll32.exe shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Fullscreen )
Then just drag the fiile to that window. Unfortuantely I can't remember if that works
just with links. ; )


>
> My question .... never accuratly answered here ... is why Microsoft chose to
> REMOVE support for this?


Why don't you install it again? <eg>


>
> IE 5 did it just fine.
> IE 6 did it just fine -- until SP1 Broke it.
> Recognizing that it was broken, Hotfix 8224220 was generated and it once
> again worked.


I doubt there was a "hotfix" with that number. Did you make a typo?
That's why it's useful to provide Title text as well as a number.

Ah (reading farther down) I see you are referring to this

<title>Some Web Page Images Do Not Appear When You View a Web Page with Internet Explorer 6 SP1</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=824220

but it states that it is for a particular OS

<quote>
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 Service Pack 1, when used with:
Microsoft Windows 2000 Standard Edition
</quote>

There is also a link in there to

<title>Kodak imaging for Windows is not included with Windows XP</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308979/

which hints that the reason might be that there was a licensing problem
after a change of ownership of the software involved.

In fact, information in that article when used with the DLL Help Database really clarifies
the extent of that support.

http://support.microsoft.com/dllhelp...a=img*.ocx&S=1

FWIW I haven't all the links there but it looks as if support was limited to
W2K Pro + SBS


>
> Now IE7 comes along and it's broken AGAIN ... no hot fix this time .. and
> we're told that this is a feature (it never was) and that IE 5 & 6 never
> supported it (they certainly DID)
>
> TIFF files may not be the way to properly deliver dirty pictures within a
> web page, but for legal and medical purposes they remain the 'faithful
> reproduction' that withstand legal challenges .. and there are billions of
> TIFF images out there ... so why this big prejudice?


Do you have Office installed? I think that there is also TIFF support in it.
Perhaps you would find its support more reliable than the third-party options.


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---


>
> "DBme" wrote:
>
>> The browser included in Vista won't display .tif images inline (img
>> src="xxxx.tif") and just displays a broken image icon instead.
>>
>> This was a problem WAY back in Internet Explorer 6 when SP1 was installed
>> and a hotfix was generated (824220) presumable because Microsoft realized it
>> needed to be fixed.... so what's the problem in Vista?
>>
>> I was planning to migrate an entire office from Windows 2000 to Vista and I
>> never imagined for a minute that we'd be going BACKWARDS in functionality.
>>
>> Is there a hotfix that "search" just can't find?