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Old 05-12-2007, 06:41 AM
Dave Barkshire
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RE: Useless back button

I'm having the same problem with a simple asp.net 2 application. The
interesting thing is that on my local machine there is no problem but when
accessing the website from the ISPs server then there is a problem. The
client browser (IE7) and machine are the same and the application is the
same. This suggests that there might be something in IIS that might be
different? These web pages do no have an 'expire' clause in the HTML HEAD.


"ProfessorPiggy" wrote:

> I am using IE7 after using Firefox (god forgive me) for several months.
> Maybe I am just used to the way that software works, but what is the only
> thing that is really bugging me about IE7 is the useless back button. When I
> click back, I want to go back, I don't want to redownload the page, or get a
> 'webpage has expired' message - I want to go back, to exactly how the webpage
> was before I went forward.
>
> I can't be the only one who is annoyed that any input fields are wiped if we
> make a mistake or loose the connection - so my suggestion is, make the back
> button do what it is suppose to do, and not reload the page, but just go back
> to how tha page was.
>
> Thanks
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general

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Old 05-12-2007, 06:41 AM
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Old 05-14-2007, 01:40 PM
phansee
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RE: Useless back button

I am having the same problem as ProfessorPiggy. It just started in the last
month or so and it is driving me crazy. The back button constantly takes me
to the webpage expired message. Happens mostly on shopping sites. Contacted
one webmaster and they said it was an ISP problem! It's interesting that it
constantly happens with IE7 and infrequently with Firefox. Haven't been able
to locate any support information that has helped to date. If it can't be
remedied I will definitely make Firefox my browser.

"Dave Barkshire" wrote:

> I'm having the same problem with a simple asp.net 2 application. The
> interesting thing is that on my local machine there is no problem but when
> accessing the website from the ISPs server then there is a problem. The
> client browser (IE7) and machine are the same and the application is the
> same. This suggests that there might be something in IIS that might be
> different? These web pages do no have an 'expire' clause in the HTML HEAD.
>
>
> "ProfessorPiggy" wrote:
>
> > I am using IE7 after using Firefox (god forgive me) for several months.
> > Maybe I am just used to the way that software works, but what is the only
> > thing that is really bugging me about IE7 is the useless back button. When I
> > click back, I want to go back, I don't want to redownload the page, or get a
> > 'webpage has expired' message - I want to go back, to exactly how the webpage
> > was before I went forward.
> >
> > I can't be the only one who is annoyed that any input fields are wiped if we
> > make a mistake or loose the connection - so my suggestion is, make the back
> > button do what it is suppose to do, and not reload the page, but just go back
> > to how tha page was.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...plorer.general

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Old 05-14-2007, 02:21 PM
Fuzzy Logic
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RE: Useless back button

=?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:F0B513DC-A33E-4689-9D5A-FC5D63602EC2@microsoft.com:

> I am having the same problem as ProfessorPiggy. It just started in the
> last month or so and it is driving me crazy. The back button constantly
> takes me to the webpage expired message. Happens mostly on shopping
> sites. Contacted one webmaster and they said it was an ISP problem!
> It's interesting that it constantly happens with IE7 and infrequently
> with Firefox. Haven't been able to locate any support information that
> has helped to date. If it can't be remedied I will definitely make
> Firefox my browser.


Check your IE settings under Tools>Internet Options>General>Browsing history>Settings>Check for newer
versions of stored pages

Make sure it's NOT set to Every time I visit the webpage. I would suggest trying Every time I start Internet
Explorer.

> "Dave Barkshire" wrote:
>
>> I'm having the same problem with a simple asp.net 2 application. The
>> interesting thing is that on my local machine there is no problem but
>> when accessing the website from the ISPs server then there is a
>> problem. The client browser (IE7) and machine are the same and the
>> application is the same. This suggests that there might be something in
>> IIS that might be different? These web pages do no have an 'expire'
>> clause in the HTML HEAD.
>>
>>
>> "ProfessorPiggy" wrote:
>>
>> > I am using IE7 after using Firefox (god forgive me) for several
>> > months. Maybe I am just used to the way that software works, but what
>> > is the only thing that is really bugging me about IE7 is the useless
>> > back button. When I click back, I want to go back, I don't want to
>> > redownload the page, or get a 'webpage has expired' message - I want
>> > to go back, to exactly how the webpage was before I went forward.
>> >
>> > I can't be the only one who is annoyed that any input fields are
>> > wiped if we make a mistake or loose the connection - so my suggestion
>> > is, make the back button do what it is suppose to do, and not reload
>> > the page, but just go back to how tha page was.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
>> > the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
>> > click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
>> > button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
>> > Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...us/default.asp
>> > x?mid=58c896ad-534d-46b1-8bd1-70787ae04bbe&dg=microsoft.public.interne
>> > texplorer.general

>


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Old 05-15-2007, 07:41 AM
phansee
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RE: Useless back button

I tried your suggestion and it seemed to work for a few minutes but that is
all. Tried other options available there except for "never" but none worked.
Am still having the same problem today. It is so frustrating!!! It has
certainly taken the fun out of browsing/shopping. I am not a novice computer
user and have always been able to remedy a problem but this one has me at a
loss. I recently updated my Norton Security Suite but I was having this
problem before that, I think. Am ready to uninstall Norton and try McAfee.
I'm sure it started happening after some update of something or other. I
find it hard to believe that more people aren't having this same problem.
HELP PLEASE!!!

"Fuzzy Logic" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:F0B513DC-A33E-4689-9D5A-FC5D63602EC2@microsoft.com:
>
> > I am having the same problem as ProfessorPiggy. It just started in the
> > last month or so and it is driving me crazy. The back button constantly
> > takes me to the webpage expired message. Happens mostly on shopping
> > sites. Contacted one webmaster and they said it was an ISP problem!
> > It's interesting that it constantly happens with IE7 and infrequently
> > with Firefox. Haven't been able to locate any support information that
> > has helped to date. If it can't be remedied I will definitely make
> > Firefox my browser.

>
> Check your IE settings under Tools>Internet Options>General>Browsing history>Settings>Check for newer
> versions of stored pages
>
> Make sure it's NOT set to Every time I visit the webpage. I would suggest trying Every time I start Internet
> Explorer.
>
> > "Dave Barkshire" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm having the same problem with a simple asp.net 2 application. The
> >> interesting thing is that on my local machine there is no problem but
> >> when accessing the website from the ISPs server then there is a
> >> problem. The client browser (IE7) and machine are the same and the
> >> application is the same. This suggests that there might be something in
> >> IIS that might be different? These web pages do no have an 'expire'
> >> clause in the HTML HEAD.
> >>
> >>
> >> "ProfessorPiggy" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I am using IE7 after using Firefox (god forgive me) for several
> >> > months. Maybe I am just used to the way that software works, but what
> >> > is the only thing that is really bugging me about IE7 is the useless
> >> > back button. When I click back, I want to go back, I don't want to
> >> > redownload the page, or get a 'webpage has expired' message - I want
> >> > to go back, to exactly how the webpage was before I went forward.
> >> >
> >> > I can't be the only one who is annoyed that any input fields are
> >> > wiped if we make a mistake or loose the connection - so my suggestion
> >> > is, make the back button do what it is suppose to do, and not reload
> >> > the page, but just go back to how tha page was.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > ----------------
> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
> >> > the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
> >> > click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
> >> > button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
> >> > Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...us/default.asp
> >> > x?mid=58c896ad-534d-46b1-8bd1-70787ae04bbe&dg=microsoft.public.interne
> >> > texplorer.general

> >

>
>

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:41 AM
Fuzzy Logic
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RE: Useless back button

=?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:0AE4DA4D-BEF0-43B9-A627-23CF84A518D3@microsoft.com:

> I tried your suggestion and it seemed to work for a few minutes but that
> is all. Tried other options available there except for "never" but none
> worked. Am still having the same problem today. It is so
> frustrating!!! It has certainly taken the fun out of browsing/shopping.
> I am not a novice computer user and have always been able to remedy a
> problem but this one has me at a loss. I recently updated my Norton
> Security Suite but I was having this problem before that, I think. Am
> ready to uninstall Norton and try McAfee. I'm sure it started happening
> after some update of something or other. I find it hard to believe that
> more people aren't having this same problem. HELP PLEASE!!!


How big is your browser cache? You may wish to increase it's size. Note that many shopping sites use
dynamic content and it's not going to work regardless of the browser/settings you have.

> "Fuzzy Logic" wrote:
>
>> =?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> news:F0B513DC-A33E-4689-9D5A-FC5D63602EC2@microsoft.com:
>>
>> > I am having the same problem as ProfessorPiggy. It just started in
>> > the last month or so and it is driving me crazy. The back button
>> > constantly takes me to the webpage expired message. Happens mostly
>> > on shopping sites. Contacted one webmaster and they said it was an
>> > ISP problem! It's interesting that it constantly happens with IE7 and
>> > infrequently with Firefox. Haven't been able to locate any support
>> > information that has helped to date. If it can't be remedied I will
>> > definitely make Firefox my browser.

>>
>> Check your IE settings under Tools>Internet Options>General>Browsing
>> history>Settings>Check for newer versions of stored pages
>>
>> Make sure it's NOT set to Every time I visit the webpage. I would
>> suggest trying Every time I start Internet Explorer.
>>
>> > "Dave Barkshire" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm having the same problem with a simple asp.net 2 application. The
>> >> interesting thing is that on my local machine there is no problem
>> >> but when accessing the website from the ISPs server then there is a
>> >> problem. The client browser (IE7) and machine are the same and the
>> >> application is the same. This suggests that there might be something
>> >> in IIS that might be different? These web pages do no have an
>> >> 'expire' clause in the HTML HEAD.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "ProfessorPiggy" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I am using IE7 after using Firefox (god forgive me) for several
>> >> > months. Maybe I am just used to the way that software works, but
>> >> > what is the only thing that is really bugging me about IE7 is the
>> >> > useless back button. When I click back, I want to go back, I don't
>> >> > want to redownload the page, or get a 'webpage has expired'
>> >> > message - I want to go back, to exactly how the webpage was before
>> >> > I went forward.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can't be the only one who is annoyed that any input fields are
>> >> > wiped if we make a mistake or loose the connection - so my
>> >> > suggestion is, make the back button do what it is suppose to do,
>> >> > and not reload the page, but just go back to how tha page was.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------
>> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
>> >> > the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
>> >> > click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see
>> >> > the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the
>> >> > Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the
>> >> > message pane.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities.../en-us/default.
>> >> > asp
>> >> > x?mid=58c896ad-534d-46b1-8bd1-70787ae04bbe&dg=microsoft.public.inte
>> >> > rne texplorer.general
>> >

>>
>>

>


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Old 05-15-2007, 05:30 PM
phansee
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RE: Useless back button

My browser cache is at the max of 1024mb. What is strange is that I have
been shopping these sites for years and have never had this problem before.
Why all of a sudden?

"Fuzzy Logic" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:0AE4DA4D-BEF0-43B9-A627-23CF84A518D3@microsoft.com:
>
> > I tried your suggestion and it seemed to work for a few minutes but that
> > is all. Tried other options available there except for "never" but none
> > worked. Am still having the same problem today. It is so
> > frustrating!!! It has certainly taken the fun out of browsing/shopping.
> > I am not a novice computer user and have always been able to remedy a
> > problem but this one has me at a loss. I recently updated my Norton
> > Security Suite but I was having this problem before that, I think. Am
> > ready to uninstall Norton and try McAfee. I'm sure it started happening
> > after some update of something or other. I find it hard to believe that
> > more people aren't having this same problem. HELP PLEASE!!!

>
> How big is your browser cache? You may wish to increase it's size. Note that many shopping sites use
> dynamic content and it's not going to work regardless of the browser/settings you have.
>
> > "Fuzzy Logic" wrote:
> >
> >> =?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> news:F0B513DC-A33E-4689-9D5A-FC5D63602EC2@microsoft.com:
> >>
> >> > I am having the same problem as ProfessorPiggy. It just started in
> >> > the last month or so and it is driving me crazy. The back button
> >> > constantly takes me to the webpage expired message. Happens mostly
> >> > on shopping sites. Contacted one webmaster and they said it was an
> >> > ISP problem! It's interesting that it constantly happens with IE7 and
> >> > infrequently with Firefox. Haven't been able to locate any support
> >> > information that has helped to date. If it can't be remedied I will
> >> > definitely make Firefox my browser.
> >>
> >> Check your IE settings under Tools>Internet Options>General>Browsing
> >> history>Settings>Check for newer versions of stored pages
> >>
> >> Make sure it's NOT set to Every time I visit the webpage. I would
> >> suggest trying Every time I start Internet Explorer.
> >>
> >> > "Dave Barkshire" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm having the same problem with a simple asp.net 2 application. The
> >> >> interesting thing is that on my local machine there is no problem
> >> >> but when accessing the website from the ISPs server then there is a
> >> >> problem. The client browser (IE7) and machine are the same and the
> >> >> application is the same. This suggests that there might be something
> >> >> in IIS that might be different? These web pages do no have an
> >> >> 'expire' clause in the HTML HEAD.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "ProfessorPiggy" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I am using IE7 after using Firefox (god forgive me) for several
> >> >> > months. Maybe I am just used to the way that software works, but
> >> >> > what is the only thing that is really bugging me about IE7 is the
> >> >> > useless back button. When I click back, I want to go back, I don't
> >> >> > want to redownload the page, or get a 'webpage has expired'
> >> >> > message - I want to go back, to exactly how the webpage was before
> >> >> > I went forward.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can't be the only one who is annoyed that any input fields are
> >> >> > wiped if we make a mistake or loose the connection - so my
> >> >> > suggestion is, make the back button do what it is suppose to do,
> >> >> > and not reload the page, but just go back to how tha page was.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----------------
> >> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
> >> >> > the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
> >> >> > click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see
> >> >> > the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the
> >> >> > Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the
> >> >> > message pane.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities.../en-us/default.
> >> >> > asp
> >> >> > x?mid=58c896ad-534d-46b1-8bd1-70787ae04bbe&dg=microsoft.public.inte
> >> >> > rne texplorer.general
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>

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Old 05-16-2007, 06:11 AM
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: Useless back button

"phansee" <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EC242729-4745-4D31-9923-B7FACFB1A079@microsoft.com...
> My browser cache is at the max of 1024mb. What is strange is that I have
> been shopping these sites for years and have never had this problem before.
> Why all of a sudden?



Because the site (or if a caching server is involved, an intermediate node
in the path) changed the headers or otherwise changed the cacheability
of the page.


Unless you can use the Back button in Working Offline mode
(e.g. press Alt-F,W before using Alt-CursorLeft) the page is not cacheable.
Then checking/re-requesting the page with all the built-up form variables
will give you that message.


>>>> Check your IE settings under Tools>Internet Options>General>Browsing
>>>> history>Settings>Check for newer versions of stored pages

....

>>> Tried other options available there except for "never" but none worked.



"Never" is what you could have tried as an alternative to setting Work Offline. ; )


Use FiddlerTool to see why the page is being checked/re-requested
and what the server/intermediate cache is doing in response.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---


Full thread:

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...1-70787ae04bbe


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Old 05-16-2007, 07:10 AM
phansee
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Re: Useless back button

I tried Work Offline and Never, neither worked. I don't have FiddlerTool and
am not familiar with it. Searched it and was going to download it but I'm
not feeling comfortable with it. It seems a little above my expertise level
although would not be afraid to try it with guidance. Would it help remedy
the situation? Would referring the site's webmaster to this conversation be
of help?

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "phansee" <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EC242729-4745-4D31-9923-B7FACFB1A079@microsoft.com...
> > My browser cache is at the max of 1024mb. What is strange is that I have
> > been shopping these sites for years and have never had this problem before.
> > Why all of a sudden?

>
>
> Because the site (or if a caching server is involved, an intermediate node
> in the path) changed the headers or otherwise changed the cacheability
> of the page.
>
>
> Unless you can use the Back button in Working Offline mode
> (e.g. press Alt-F,W before using Alt-CursorLeft) the page is not cacheable.
> Then checking/re-requesting the page with all the built-up form variables
> will give you that message.
>
>
> >>>> Check your IE settings under Tools>Internet Options>General>Browsing
> >>>> history>Settings>Check for newer versions of stored pages

> ....
>
> >>> Tried other options available there except for "never" but none worked.

>
>
> "Never" is what you could have tried as an alternative to setting Work Offline. ; )
>
>
> Use FiddlerTool to see why the page is being checked/re-requested
> and what the server/intermediate cache is doing in response.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
> Full thread:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...1-70787ae04bbe
>
>
>

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Old 05-17-2007, 06:00 AM
tom umholtz
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Re: Useless back button


add my name to the list of frustrated users. tried all suggestions here and
none worked
--
tu


"phansee" wrote:

> I tried Work Offline and Never, neither worked. I don't have FiddlerTool and
> am not familiar with it. Searched it and was going to download it but I'm
> not feeling comfortable with it. It seems a little above my expertise level
> although would not be afraid to try it with guidance. Would it help remedy
> the situation? Would referring the site's webmaster to this conversation be
> of help?
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
> > "phansee" <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:EC242729-4745-4D31-9923-B7FACFB1A079@microsoft.com...
> > > My browser cache is at the max of 1024mb. What is strange is that I have
> > > been shopping these sites for years and have never had this problem before.
> > > Why all of a sudden?

> >
> >
> > Because the site (or if a caching server is involved, an intermediate node
> > in the path) changed the headers or otherwise changed the cacheability
> > of the page.
> >
> >
> > Unless you can use the Back button in Working Offline mode
> > (e.g. press Alt-F,W before using Alt-CursorLeft) the page is not cacheable.
> > Then checking/re-requesting the page with all the built-up form variables
> > will give you that message.
> >
> >
> > >>>> Check your IE settings under Tools>Internet Options>General>Browsing
> > >>>> history>Settings>Check for newer versions of stored pages

> > ....
> >
> > >>> Tried other options available there except for "never" but none worked.

> >
> >
> > "Never" is what you could have tried as an alternative to setting Work Offline. ; )
> >
> >
> > Use FiddlerTool to see why the page is being checked/re-requested
> > and what the server/intermediate cache is doing in response.
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Robert Aldwinckle
> > ---
> >
> >
> > Full thread:
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...1-70787ae04bbe
> >
> >
> >

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Old 05-17-2007, 10:31 AM
Fuzzy Logic
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Re: Useless back button

=?Utf-8?B?dG9tIHVtaG9sdHo=?= <tomumholtz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in news:29E7258F-5CDF-4C0F-911F-5A3F6F40DAE3@microsoft.com:

>
> add my name to the list of frustrated users. tried all suggestions here
> and none worked


Some pages CANNOT be cached. Any chance you can supply a link to the page(s) that are causing this
problem?

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Old 05-17-2007, 04:40 PM
phansee
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Re: Useless back button

This happens throughout this site as well as others. Here is just one link.
Choose the item size and color, add to shopping cart then hit the back button
to choose a different color of the same item. Webpage expired message
appears. It just doesn't do it when placing items in cart either. Just
navigate through site, do a search, check out items, shop... etc. hit back
button frequently. Like I said this happens on other sites as well. This
may not work as a link but is the address for one of the many problem pages.
Thanks!

http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/a....%7Cpg_nav,asp



"Fuzzy Logic" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?dG9tIHVtaG9sdHo=?= <tomumholtz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in news:29E7258F-5CDF-4C0F-911F-5A3F6F40DAE3@microsoft.com:
>
> >
> > add my name to the list of frustrated users. tried all suggestions here
> > and none worked

>
> Some pages CANNOT be cached. Any chance you can supply a link to the page(s) that are causing this
> problem?
>
>

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Old 05-17-2007, 05:00 PM
phansee
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Re: Useless back button

Link does not take you to intended page. Just shop the site like I suggested
and use back button frequently..

"phansee" wrote:

> This happens throughout this site as well as others. Here is just one link.
> Choose the item size and color, add to shopping cart then hit the back button
> to choose a different color of the same item. Webpage expired message
> appears. It just doesn't do it when placing items in cart either. Just
> navigate through site, do a search, check out items, shop... etc. hit back
> button frequently. Like I said this happens on other sites as well. This
> may not work as a link but is the address for one of the many problem pages.
> Thanks!
>
> http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/a....%7Cpg_nav,asp
>
>
>
> "Fuzzy Logic" wrote:
>
> > =?Utf-8?B?dG9tIHVtaG9sdHo=?= <tomumholtz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> > in news:29E7258F-5CDF-4C0F-911F-5A3F6F40DAE3@microsoft.com:
> >
> > >
> > > add my name to the list of frustrated users. tried all suggestions here
> > > and none worked

> >
> > Some pages CANNOT be cached. Any chance you can supply a link to the page(s) that are causing this
> > problem?
> >
> >

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Old 05-18-2007, 11:50 AM
Fuzzy Logic
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=?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:56250AFC-2A2E-4065-9A37-3674DE587E9F@microsoft.com:

> This happens throughout this site as well as others. Here is just one
> link. Choose the item size and color, add to shopping cart then hit the
> back button to choose a different color of the same item. Webpage
> expired message appears. It just doesn't do it when placing items in
> cart either. Just navigate through site, do a search, check out items,
> shop... etc. hit back button frequently. Like I said this happens on
> other sites as well. This may not work as a link but is the address for
> one of the many problem pages. Thanks!
>
> http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/a....%7Cpg_nav,asp


This is pretty typical behavior for query-based web sites. The page is dynamic and cannot be recreated
without executing the original query so the developers expire the page. You can't blame the browser for this.

> "Fuzzy Logic" wrote:
>
>> =?Utf-8?B?dG9tIHVtaG9sdHo=?= <tomumholtz@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote in news:29E7258F-5CDF-4C0F-911F-5A3F6F40DAE3@microsoft.com:
>>
>> >
>> > add my name to the list of frustrated users. tried all suggestions
>> > here and none worked

>>
>> Some pages CANNOT be cached. Any chance you can supply a link to the
>> page(s) that are causing this problem?
>>
>>

>


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Old 05-18-2007, 12:50 PM
phansee
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Re: Useless back button

As I said, I have been shopping this site for years and this never happened
before. So if I understand you correctly, the developers must have changed
the site and there is nothing I can do to remedy this and/or is it because IE
just started enforcing some rules!? Thanks for your input!!!

"Fuzzy Logic" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?cGhhbnNlZQ==?= <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:56250AFC-2A2E-4065-9A37-3674DE587E9F@microsoft.com:
>
> > This happens throughout this site as well as others. Here is just one
> > link. Choose the item size and color, add to shopping cart then hit the
> > back button to choose a different color of the same item. Webpage
> > expired message appears. It just doesn't do it when placing items in
> > cart either. Just navigate through site, do a search, check out items,
> > shop... etc. hit back button frequently. Like I said this happens on
> > other sites as well. This may not work as a link but is the address for
> > one of the many problem pages. Thanks!
> >
> > http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/a....%7Cpg_nav,asp

>
> This is pretty typical behavior for query-based web sites. The page is dynamic and cannot be recreated
> without executing the original query so the developers expire the page. You can't blame the browser for this.
>
> > "Fuzzy Logic" wrote:
> >
> >> =?Utf-8?B?dG9tIHVtaG9sdHo=?= <tomumholtz@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote in news:29E7258F-5CDF-4C0F-911F-5A3F6F40DAE3@microsoft.com:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > add my name to the list of frustrated users. tried all suggestions
> >> > here and none worked
> >>
> >> Some pages CANNOT be cached. Any chance you can supply a link to the
> >> page(s) that are causing this problem?
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>

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Old 05-21-2007, 10:40 AM
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: Useless back button

"phansee" <phansee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5CFFBD4C-621A-4388-859F-1BCEAADBAB4C@microsoft.com
....
>>> http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/a....%7Cpg_nav,asp



> As I said, I have been shopping this site for years and this never happened
> before. So if I understand you correctly, the developers must have changed
> the site and there is nothing I can do to remedy this and/or is it because IE
> just started enforcing some rules!?



I haven't been able to reproduce the symptom at that site.
E.g. (surprisingly) Back implemented by the browser works.

Often you have to rely on the site's UI providing a Back button
(e.g. in the page, implemented using Javascript). I even saw
an example of that on one of the pages I got. Do the pages
which give you the problem symptom have a Back button in them?
If so, use them. Alternatively, use any other link in the page which
effects the same thing. In fact, depending on how a site is designed
using its Back button will give you better functionality (e.g. better
potential for saved values and field focus) than by just using the
browser's Back function.

Another thing that works particularly well on search sites (but won't
work on this site because the links seem to be mostly implemented
by Javascript functions) is to open the link in a new tab or window,
e.g. hold down a Ctrl- key or a Shift- key when clicking on a link
when you know that you want to return to the launching page.
In that case you achieve the same effect of Back by closing
the tab or window.


HTH

Robert
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