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Old 05-06-2007, 09:00 AM
Derek Deida
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Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files

This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often ActiveX
objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
corrupted.

Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged object and
choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove objects
from this folder.

I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and that
you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove ActiveX
controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder, however...
there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not show up
in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this object??

You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:06 AM
Don Varnau
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

Hi,
From Manage add-ons, in the "Show" field, have you tried both of these
views?
Add-ons that have been used by Internet Explorer
and
Downloaded ActiveX Controls ?

Don
[MS MVP- IE]

"Derek Deida" <Derek Deida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C8DE7B5E-D6B1-44EC-8F66-865EE2C9AC6C@microsoft.com...
> Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
> C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files
>
> This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
> General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often

ActiveX
> objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
> corrupted.
>
> Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged object

and
> choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
> Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove

objects
> from this folder.
>
> I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and

that
> you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove ActiveX
> controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder, however...
> there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not show

up
> in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this

object??
>
> You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
> http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589


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Old 05-06-2007, 09:13 AM
Derek Deida
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

Don -

Thanks for your reply.
Unfortunately, the damaged control which is present in my Downloaded Program
Files folder is not listed in ANY of the views in the Manage Add-Ons window.
I've checked it thoroughly including the name, file name columns, etc.

Any other suggestions?
I work for a Technical Support department and we see damaged or otherwise
corrupted items in the Downloaded Program Files folder very often. In many
cases the only way to resolve the issues that our users are experiencing with
Flash (or other plug-ins) is to remove these corrupted items.

I attempted to change the permissions of the Downloaded Program Files folder
so that it was no longer "Read Only." I am prompted to authenticate, and it
appears to make the changes... however when I check the properties of the
folder immediately afterwards it is set back to "Read Only."

I also notices that the contents of the Downloaded Program Files folder look
very different from the command line. Ovbiously, what I am seeing in Vista is
a list that the OS has interpreted somehow. Is there some sort of UNIX style
superuser function (aka "sudo") that I can use to gain actual access to the
items in this folder?

Any help you provide on this issue will be most appreciated.
Thanks!
Derek Deida

"Don Varnau" wrote:

> Hi,
> From Manage add-ons, in the "Show" field, have you tried both of these
> views?
> Add-ons that have been used by Internet Explorer
> and
> Downloaded ActiveX Controls ?
>
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
> "Derek Deida" <Derek Deida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C8DE7B5E-D6B1-44EC-8F66-865EE2C9AC6C@microsoft.com...
> > Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
> > C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files
> >
> > This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
> > General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often

> ActiveX
> > objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
> > corrupted.
> >
> > Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged object

> and
> > choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
> > Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove

> objects
> > from this folder.
> >
> > I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and

> that
> > you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove ActiveX
> > controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder, however...
> > there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not show

> up
> > in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this

> object??
> >
> > You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
> > http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589

>
>

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Old 05-06-2007, 09:13 AM
Michael
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

All folders are 'read only' clearing/setting the box has no effect. Notice
that the box is a filled blue , not a check mark.

Michael

"Derek Deida" <DerekDeida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:70075554-6A4E-4AE3-930E-005A030D5833@microsoft.com...
> Don -
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> Unfortunately, the damaged control which is present in my Downloaded
> Program
> Files folder is not listed in ANY of the views in the Manage Add-Ons
> window.
> I've checked it thoroughly including the name, file name columns, etc.
>
> Any other suggestions?
> I work for a Technical Support department and we see damaged or otherwise
> corrupted items in the Downloaded Program Files folder very often. In many
> cases the only way to resolve the issues that our users are experiencing
> with
> Flash (or other plug-ins) is to remove these corrupted items.
>
> I attempted to change the permissions of the Downloaded Program Files
> folder
> so that it was no longer "Read Only." I am prompted to authenticate, and
> it
> appears to make the changes... however when I check the properties of the
> folder immediately afterwards it is set back to "Read Only."
>
> I also notices that the contents of the Downloaded Program Files folder
> look
> very different from the command line. Ovbiously, what I am seeing in Vista
> is
> a list that the OS has interpreted somehow. Is there some sort of UNIX
> style
> superuser function (aka "sudo") that I can use to gain actual access to
> the
> items in this folder?
>
> Any help you provide on this issue will be most appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Derek Deida
>
> "Don Varnau" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> From Manage add-ons, in the "Show" field, have you tried both of these
>> views?
>> Add-ons that have been used by Internet Explorer
>> and
>> Downloaded ActiveX Controls ?
>>
>> Don
>> [MS MVP- IE]
>>
>> "Derek Deida" <Derek Deida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C8DE7B5E-D6B1-44EC-8F66-865EE2C9AC6C@microsoft.com...
>> > Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
>> > C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files
>> >
>> > This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
>> > General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often

>> ActiveX
>> > objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
>> > corrupted.
>> >
>> > Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged
>> > object

>> and
>> > choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
>> > Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove

>> objects
>> > from this folder.
>> >
>> > I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and

>> that
>> > you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove
>> > ActiveX
>> > controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder, however...
>> > there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not
>> > show

>> up
>> > in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this

>> object??
>> >
>> > You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
>> > http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589

>>
>>


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Old 05-06-2007, 09:13 AM
Derek Deida
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

Is that so?
So there's no way to gain access to those folders?

I don't want to launch into an anti-vista tirade here... but seriously.

Derek Deida

"Michael" wrote:

> All folders are 'read only' clearing/setting the box has no effect. Notice
> that the box is a filled blue , not a check mark.
>
> Michael


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Old 05-06-2007, 09:15 AM
Don Varnau
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

Hi,
Couldn't see the screenshot at
http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589 because I'm not
registered.

Have you tried clearing DPF from Programs> Accessories> Disk cleanup?

You could probably delete an ActiveX control via command line.

Or, you may get better help in a Vista newsgroup.
If you stick with the web interface I'd try
http://www.microsoft.com/communities....vista.general

Don
[MS MVP- IE]

"Derek Deida" <DerekDeida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:70075554-6A4E-4AE3-930E-005A030D5833@microsoft.com...
> Don -
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> Unfortunately, the damaged control which is present in my Downloaded

Program
> Files folder is not listed in ANY of the views in the Manage Add-Ons

window.
> I've checked it thoroughly including the name, file name columns, etc.
>
> Any other suggestions?
> I work for a Technical Support department and we see damaged or otherwise
> corrupted items in the Downloaded Program Files folder very often. In many
> cases the only way to resolve the issues that our users are experiencing

with
> Flash (or other plug-ins) is to remove these corrupted items.
>
> I attempted to change the permissions of the Downloaded Program Files

folder
> so that it was no longer "Read Only." I am prompted to authenticate, and

it
> appears to make the changes... however when I check the properties of the
> folder immediately afterwards it is set back to "Read Only."
>
> I also notices that the contents of the Downloaded Program Files folder

look
> very different from the command line. Ovbiously, what I am seeing in Vista

is
> a list that the OS has interpreted somehow. Is there some sort of UNIX

style
> superuser function (aka "sudo") that I can use to gain actual access to

the
> items in this folder?
>
> Any help you provide on this issue will be most appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Derek Deida


> "Don Varnau" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > From Manage add-ons, in the "Show" field, have you tried both of these
> > views?
> > Add-ons that have been used by Internet Explorer
> > and
> > Downloaded ActiveX Controls ?


> > "Derek Deida" <Derek Deida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:C8DE7B5E-D6B1-44EC-8F66-865EE2C9AC6C@microsoft.com...
> > > Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
> > > C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files
> > >
> > > This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
> > > General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often

> > ActiveX
> > > objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
> > > corrupted.
> > >
> > > Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged

object
> > and
> > > choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
> > > Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove

> > objects
> > > from this folder.
> > >
> > > I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and

> > that
> > > you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove

ActiveX
> > > controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder,

however...
> > > there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not

show
> > up
> > > in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this

> > object??
> > >
> > > You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
> > > http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589


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Old 05-06-2007, 09:16 AM
Robert Aldwinckle
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

(cross-post added to Vista General)
"Derek Deida" <Derek Deida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C8DE7B5E-D6B1-44EC-8F66-865EE2C9AC6C@microsoft.com...
> Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
> C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files
>
> This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
> General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often ActiveX
> objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
> corrupted.



I see that on XP too. I think that rather than the objects being damaged
that the Dependency tab in the Properties page is broken.
An unhandled consequence of removing MSJAva perhaps? ; }


>
> Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged object and
> choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
> Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove objects
> from this folder.
>
> I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and that
> you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove ActiveX
> controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder, however...
> there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not show up
> in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this object??



Try finding out what it is? E.g. doubleclick on it to see its Properties
and use the Version tab?


>
> You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
> http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589



Requires login? ; }

FWIW in XP the Downloaded Program Files is a special view,
not a normal folder but in XP it maps directly to a normal subdirectory.
So, you can capture the path to that subdirectory from your Address bar
and switch to a cmd window then type:

cd /d

leave at least one space after the switch; then right-click, Paste
and then press Enter.

dir/a

should show you what is really in that subdirectory.
Then you may find that that GUID you're looking at is mentioned
in an .inf file there.

findstr /miL "{6414512b-b978" *

So then open whatever you find, in Notepad and browse it for more
clues about the implementation or origin of the feature.

It looks as if you could also get more information about the GUID
by using Properties on it in the special view though. E.g. I just opened
wuweb.inf and found only some of the information that the Properties tab
is showing. I suspect it could be getting that by querying the .dll the .inf
file points to (which in this particular case is in %windir%\System32.)
I would try running ProcMon to try to see if there were file and registry
accesses when using the Properties page which supports that idea.

I don't use Vista and this implementation may have changed in it.
Cross-posting to Vista General.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:16 AM
Cal Bear '66
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

Right click on drive in Windows Explorer and choose Disk Cleanup, select Downloaded Program Files.


"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message news:uLt3vp9cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> (cross-post added to Vista General)
> "Derek Deida" <Derek Deida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C8DE7B5E-D6B1-44EC-8F66-865EE2C9AC6C@microsoft.com...
>> Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
>> C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files
>>
>> This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
>> General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often ActiveX
>> objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
>> corrupted.

>
>
> I see that on XP too. I think that rather than the objects being damaged
> that the Dependency tab in the Properties page is broken.
> An unhandled consequence of removing MSJAva perhaps? ; }
>
>
>>
>> Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged object and
>> choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
>> Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove objects
>> from this folder.
>>
>> I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and that
>> you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove ActiveX
>> controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder, however...
>> there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not show up
>> in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this object??

>
>
> Try finding out what it is? E.g. doubleclick on it to see its Properties
> and use the Version tab?
>
>
>>
>> You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
>> http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589

>
>
> Requires login? ; }
>
> FWIW in XP the Downloaded Program Files is a special view,
> not a normal folder but in XP it maps directly to a normal subdirectory.
> So, you can capture the path to that subdirectory from your Address bar
> and switch to a cmd window then type:
>
> cd /d
>
> leave at least one space after the switch; then right-click, Paste
> and then press Enter.
>
> dir/a
>
> should show you what is really in that subdirectory.
> Then you may find that that GUID you're looking at is mentioned
> in an .inf file there.
>
> findstr /miL "{6414512b-b978" *
>
> So then open whatever you find, in Notepad and browse it for more
> clues about the implementation or origin of the feature.
>
> It looks as if you could also get more information about the GUID
> by using Properties on it in the special view though. E.g. I just opened
> wuweb.inf and found only some of the information that the Properties tab
> is showing. I suspect it could be getting that by querying the .dll the .inf
> file points to (which in this particular case is in %windir%\System32.)
> I would try running ProcMon to try to see if there were file and registry
> accesses when using the Properties page which supports that idea.
>
> I don't use Vista and this implementation may have changed in it.
> Cross-posting to Vista General.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
>

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Old 05-29-2007, 11:40 PM
catfish1
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Re: Removing Items from Download Program Files - Vista

It is still there after all the above processes. Any other ideas?

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:

> Right click on drive in Windows Explorer and choose Disk Cleanup, select
> Downloaded Program Files.
>
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> news:uLt3vp9cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > (cross-post added to Vista General)
> > "Derek Deida" <Derek Deida@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:C8DE7B5E-D6B1-44EC-8F66-865EE2C9AC6C@microsoft.com...
> >> Does anyone know how to remove individual objects from the folder
> >> C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files
> >>
> >> This is the folder that is displayed when going to Internet Options >
> >> General Tab/Browsing History/Settings > View Objects. There are often

> ActiveX
> >> objects in this folder which are listed as "Damaged" or are otherwise
> >> corrupted.

> >
> >
> > I see that on XP too. I think that rather than the objects being

> damaged
> > that the Dependency tab in the Properties page is broken.
> > An unhandled consequence of removing MSJAva perhaps? ; }
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Back in Windows XP it was a simple as right-clicking on a damaged

> object and
> >> choosing "Remove" or "Delete."
> >> Under Windows Vista it does not appear that there is a way to remove

> objects
> >> from this folder.
> >>
> >> I've read that this feature has been removed from Windows Vista... and

> that
> >> you're supposed to now use the "Manage Add-Ons" dialog to remove

> ActiveX
> >> controls. Take a look at my Downloaded Program Files folder, however...
> >> there's an object names {6414512b-b978...yadda yadda. This does not

> show up
> >> in my Manage Add-Ons dialog... does anyone know how to remove this

> object??
> >
> >
> > Try finding out what it is? E.g. doubleclick on it to see its

> Properties
> > and use the Version tab?
> >
> >
> >>
> >> You can view a screenshot of my Downloaded Program Files dialog here:
> >> http://thevistaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=10589

> >
> >
> > Requires login? ; }
> >
> > FWIW in XP the Downloaded Program Files is a special view,
> > not a normal folder but in XP it maps directly to a normal subdirectory.
> > So, you can capture the path to that subdirectory from your Address bar
> > and switch to a cmd window then type:
> >
> > cd /d
> >
> > leave at least one space after the switch; then right-click, Paste
> > and then press Enter.
> >
> > dir/a
> >
> > should show you what is really in that subdirectory.
> > Then you may find that that GUID you're looking at is mentioned
> > in an .inf file there.
> >
> > findstr /miL "{6414512b-b978" *
> >
> > So then open whatever you find, in Notepad and browse it for more
> > clues about the implementation or origin of the feature.
> >
> > It looks as if you could also get more information about the GUID
> > by using Properties on it in the special view though. E.g. I just

> opened
> > wuweb.inf and found only some of the information that the Properties

> tab
> > is showing. I suspect it could be getting that by querying the .dll

> the .inf
> > file points to (which in this particular case is in %windir%\System32.)
> > I would try running ProcMon to try to see if there were file and

> registry
> > accesses when using the Properties page which supports that idea.
> >
> > I don't use Vista and this implementation may have changed in it.
> > Cross-posting to Vista General.
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Robert Aldwinckle
> > ---
> >
> >
> >

>

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