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Old 02-06-2007, 04:52 PM
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Ram

I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
time I have tried removing ram. thanks
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Re: Ram

Wizard wrote:
> You can't use both at once
>
> Ray wrote:
>
>
>>I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
>>and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
>>ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
>>fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
>>screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
>>ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
>>time I have tried removing ram. thanks

>
>

Thanks for the reply. I understand I cannot use both. I have one pc
with 512mb pc133. It is working fine and recognizes 512. When I remove
256 stick for another pc the monitor does not fire. The other machine
uses both pc and ddr as well. It is working and recognizes the 128MB of
pc133. When I remove 128mb of pc133 to install 256mb ddr the monitor
does not fire. I know for fact it is not bad ddr. Both machines have
K7S5A Pro ECS MB. Any ideas on this one? thanks, appreciate the help!
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Re: Ram

You can't use both at once

Ray wrote:

> I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
> and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
> ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
> fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
> screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
> ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
> time I have tried removing ram. thanks


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Ray wrote:
| I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
| and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
| ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
| fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
| screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
| ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
| time I have tried removing ram. thanks

Any beeps emitted from your computer? Also does the computer work fine
again if you put the original ram in the pc?
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Re: Ram

Wizard wrote:
> You can't use both at once
>
> Ray wrote:
>
>
>>I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
>>and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
>>ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
>>fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
>>screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
>>ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
>>time I have tried removing ram. thanks

>
>

Thanks for the reply. I understand I cannot use both. I have one pc
with 512mb pc133. It is working fine and recognizes 512. When I remove
256 stick for another pc the monitor does not fire. The other machine
uses both pc and ddr as well. It is working and recognizes the 128MB of
pc133. When I remove 128mb of pc133 to install 256mb ddr the monitor
does not fire. I know for fact it is not bad ddr. Both machines have
K7S5A Pro ECS MB. Any ideas on this one? thanks, appreciate the help!
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Re: Ram

Ben Measures wrote:

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> Ray wrote:
> | I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
> | and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
> | ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
> | fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
> | screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
> | ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
> | time I have tried removing ram. thanks
>
> Any beeps emitted from your computer? Also does the computer work fine
> again if you put the original ram in the pc?
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Pc does not beep and works fine when I put the memory back in. Got me
stump, but I am not an expert. thanks for the help, Ray
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Re: Ram

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Ray wrote:
| I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
| and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
| ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
| fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
| screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
| ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
| time I have tried removing ram. thanks

Any beeps emitted from your computer? Also does the computer work fine
again if you put the original ram in the pc?
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Ray wrote:
| Pc does not beep and works fine when I put the memory back in. Got me
| stump, but I am not an expert. thanks for the help, Ray

Do you have onboard graphics or a separate card?
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Re: Ram

Ben Measures wrote:

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> Ray wrote:
> | I have 2 pc's that I try to change the ram on. One has 512mb of pc133
> | and tried to remove 256 for another pc. The other was pc133 that uses
> | ddr also and tried to put ddr in place of pc133 and the monitor does not
> | fire up in both cases. Monitor stays in sleep mode and don't see any
> | screens. Is there something I have to do in the bios before removing
> | ram. I have never had a problem just adding ram but this is the first
> | time I have tried removing ram. thanks
>
> Any beeps emitted from your computer? Also does the computer work fine
> again if you put the original ram in the pc?
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Pc does not beep and works fine when I put the memory back in. Got me
stump, but I am not an expert. thanks for the help, Ray
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Re: Ram

Ben Measures wrote:

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> Ray wrote:
> | Pc does not beep and works fine when I put the memory back in. Got me
> | stump, but I am not an expert. thanks for the help, Ray
>
> Do you have onboard graphics or a separate card?
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Separate cards on both machines. Different types of cards on each.
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Re: Ram

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Ray wrote:
| Pc does not beep and works fine when I put the memory back in. Got me
| stump, but I am not an expert. thanks for the help, Ray

Do you have onboard graphics or a separate card?
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Re: Ram

Ben Measures wrote:

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> Ray wrote:
> | Pc does not beep and works fine when I put the memory back in. Got me
> | stump, but I am not an expert. thanks for the help, Ray
>
> Do you have onboard graphics or a separate card?
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So lemme get this straight:
Two PCs, (A) and (B).
PC (A) has two sticks of 256MB PC133 DDR RAM
PC (B) has one stick of 128MB PC133 DDR RAM

Now, I take it that:
1.) (B) works as it is
2.) you have taken out the 128MB stick from (B) and tried either of the
256MB sticks of ram from (A) in it with no success.

If this is the case, then it might be that the ram has different
timings. The 256MB sticks might be slower than the 128MB stick.

If you're confident enough you can go into the BIOS of (B) and set the
memory timings as high (big numerically) as they can go, eg change CL2
to CL3, 1-1-1-1 to 3-3-3-3 (or something like that).

Otherwise, the ram could possibly just be "incompatible" with your
motherboard (not so likely with new motherboards but true of 1st gen DDR).

!!! Note that changing the BIOS in the wrong way can lead to an
motherboard that won't boot! This is usually resetable via a jumper on
the motherboard but don't say I didn't warn you, 'cos I just did!!!

- --
Ben M.

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Re: Ram

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So lemme get this straight:
Two PCs, (A) and (B).
PC (A) has two sticks of 256MB PC133 DDR RAM
PC (B) has one stick of 128MB PC133 DDR RAM

Now, I take it that:
1.) (B) works as it is
2.) you have taken out the 128MB stick from (B) and tried either of the
256MB sticks of ram from (A) in it with no success.

If this is the case, then it might be that the ram has different
timings. The 256MB sticks might be slower than the 128MB stick.

If you're confident enough you can go into the BIOS of (B) and set the
memory timings as high (big numerically) as they can go, eg change CL2
to CL3, 1-1-1-1 to 3-3-3-3 (or something like that).

Otherwise, the ram could possibly just be "incompatible" with your
motherboard (not so likely with new motherboards but true of 1st gen DDR).

!!! Note that changing the BIOS in the wrong way can lead to an
motherboard that won't boot! This is usually resetable via a jumper on
the motherboard but don't say I didn't warn you, 'cos I just did!!!

- --
Ben M.

- ----------------
What are Software Patents for?
To protect the small enterprise from bigger companies.

What do Software Patents do?
In its current form, they protect only companies with
big legal departments as they:
a.) Patent everything no matter how general
b.) Sue everybody. Even if the patent can be argued
invalid, small companies can ill-afford the
typical $500k cost of a law-suit (not to mention
years of harrasment).

Don't let them take away your right to program
whatever you like. Make a stand on Software Patents
before its too late.

Read about the ongoing battlUntitled 1e at http://swpat.ffii.org/
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