Hi,

I am thinking of purchasing 1 of 3 DVD writers.

Pioneer DVR-A06
Sony DW-U10A
Sony DRU510AX

Anyone know of advantages or disadvantages of each. Any recommendations of
which once to get.

I just got the Sony dru510a, and it works great...fastest ont he market as
of right now...but I don't know about 5 minutes from now. The software
sucks of course, so I got the new Nero, man its sweet. My dad uses the new
Roxio, and it is also good. I haven't seen any of the DVD burners come with
good software. Sorry don't know about the others.

--
Night_Seer
"Zork" <zork152000******.com> wrote in message
news:m163b.47858$la.806532@news1.calgary.shaw.ca.. .
> Hi,
>
> I am thinking of purchasing 1 of 3 DVD writers.
>
> Pioneer DVR-A06
> Sony DW-U10A
> Sony DRU510AX
>
> Anyone know of advantages or disadvantages of each. Any recommendations
of
> which once to get.
>
>

Zork wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am thinking of purchasing 1 of 3 DVD writers.
>
> Pioneer DVR-A06
> Sony DW-U10A
> Sony DRU510AX
>
> Anyone know of advantages or disadvantages of each. Any recommendations of
> which once to get.
>
>

Just so you know here are the Sony OEM & real equivalents. Do not get
swindled:

U10A = 500A
U12A = 500AX
U14A = 510

BCA

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:50:16 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
dot com> wrote:

>I just got the Sony dru510a, and it works great...fastest ont he market as

No its not.

The pioneer a06 is faster at burn to dvd-r 4x by 3 minuites.
nero comnes with the a06 along with far better software

>of right now...but I don't know about 5 minutes from now. The software
>sucks of course, so I got the new Nero, man its sweet. My dad uses the new
>Roxio, and it is also good. I haven't seen any of the DVD burners come with
>good software. Sorry don't know about the others.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:31:57 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
dot com> wrote:

>Well its hard to really tell...I was referring to it being the only burner
>on the market with 4x DVD+RW burning, which is of course faster than the
>Pioneers 2.4x DVD+RW. I guess it depends on what you want it for.

Liteon has a 4x dvd-r and dvd-rw as does Nec, LG, etc...

The pioneers do burn a full disc in 3 minutes faster than the sony
drives using 4x media.

The pioneer burns 4x for both dvd-r and dvd+r.
I've yet to use a single plus disc in my dvd burner.

Geez man your talking semantics...like I said...I don't know about 5
minutes from now if you read my original post...as in I don't really know.
If your going to burn rewritables the Sony IS faster than the pioneer, and
you still haven't shown me any proof of your 3 minutes faster claim. Show
me some benchmarks or something, then maybe I might believe it. I seriously
doubt your claim. It only has a 2MB cache as opposed to the Sony's 8 MB
cache. Bu they if you can back it up I'll believe you. Plus it only reads
at 12x as opposed to the Sony's 16x.

--
Night_Seer
"CAM" <CAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:dffskv4457116juev9ihh8grv8083l07h2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:31:57 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
> dot com> wrote:
>
> >Well its hard to really tell...I was referring to it being the only
burner
> >on the market with 4x DVD+RW burning, which is of course faster than the
> >Pioneers 2.4x DVD+RW. I guess it depends on what you want it for.
>
> Liteon has a 4x dvd-r and dvd-rw as does Nec, LG, etc...
>
> The pioneers do burn a full disc in 3 minutes faster than the sony
> drives using 4x media.
>
> The pioneer burns 4x for both dvd-r and dvd+r.
> I've yet to use a single plus disc in my dvd burner.
>

The the LG model that does all formats.

What other burners do all the formats

"CAM" <CAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:llctkv46k2banhbj9uubjuuubvd5pea06c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:38:44 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
> dot com> wrote:
>
> > Geez man your talking semantics...like I said...I don't know about 5
> >minutes from now if you read my original post...as in I don't really
know.
> >If your going to burn rewritables the Sony IS faster than the pioneer,
and
>
> Both the sony and the pioneers do DVD-RW at 2X.
> The sony 510a does dvd+rw at 4x and the pioneer a06 at 2.4x.
>
> Who uses plus media.
> Plus media is on the way out if you didn't know.
> Need proof. The latest sony recorders don't do dvd+r any more.
> The blu ray recorders are only backwack compatible with
> dvd-r/-rw/-ram/cdr.
>
> I own a dual burner and only ever use dvd-r media.
> A rarely use dvd-rw media at all. I prefer dvd-ram media.
> Yes I have another dvd burner in my pc that can burn to ram in the
> panasonic. This way I can take my dvd-ram media froim my e30/e80 and
> pop it in to the pc to re edit. Saves a bit using dvd-r media.
>
> LG has a burner that does all the formats including dvd-ram but it
> takes to long to do a burn at 17mins.
>
> >you still haven't shown me any proof of your 3 minutes faster claim.
Show
> >me some benchmarks or something, then maybe I might believe it. I
seriously
> >doubt your claim. It only has a 2MB cache as opposed to the Sony's 8 MB
> >cache. Bu they if you can back it up I'll believe you. Plus it only
reads
> >at 12x as opposed to the Sony's 16x.
>
> A full disk burn on a pioneer a05/a06 does it in a little over 14 mins
> where the sony takes 17 mins.
>
> You claim you have a sony dvd burner. Do a full disc burn yourself.
> I've used both.
>
> When you do a full disc burn you will notice on the time clock of the
> program the time it takes to do a full disc burn. This is even
> mentioned on the sony site that a full disk burn takes 17 mins for a
> full disc burn.
>
> To those who own pioneers or both do a test burn for a full disc. You
> will see which is faster.
>
>

why not an nec ND-1300a?
exactly the same specs as a pioneer a06/106D
and I have no problems whatsoever.

"Zork" <zork152000******.com> wrote in message
news:m163b.47858$la.806532@news1.calgary.shaw.ca.. .
> Hi,
>
> I am thinking of purchasing 1 of 3 DVD writers.
>
> Pioneer DVR-A06
> Sony DW-U10A
> Sony DRU510AX
>
> Anyone know of advantages or disadvantages of each. Any recommendations
of
> which once to get.
>
>

I haven't had any success playing videos I burned on both DVD+RW and DVD-RW
on any standalone home theater players I tried. They only work on my PC.
DOes anyone know what the compatibility of HT players with rewriteables. It
must be low on all but the new models that have been shipping in the last
year.


"CAM" <CAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:llctkv46k2banhbj9uubjuuubvd5pea06c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:38:44 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
> dot com> wrote:
>
> > Geez man your talking semantics...like I said...I don't know about 5
> >minutes from now if you read my original post...as in I don't really
know.
> >If your going to burn rewritables the Sony IS faster than the pioneer,
and
>
> Both the sony and the pioneers do DVD-RW at 2X.
> The sony 510a does dvd+rw at 4x and the pioneer a06 at 2.4x.
>
> Who uses plus media.
> Plus media is on the way out if you didn't know.
> Need proof. The latest sony recorders don't do dvd+r any more.
> The blu ray recorders are only backwack compatible with
> dvd-r/-rw/-ram/cdr.
>
> I own a dual burner and only ever use dvd-r media.
> A rarely use dvd-rw media at all. I prefer dvd-ram media.
> Yes I have another dvd burner in my pc that can burn to ram in the
> panasonic. This way I can take my dvd-ram media froim my e30/e80 and
> pop it in to the pc to re edit. Saves a bit using dvd-r media.
>
> LG has a burner that does all the formats including dvd-ram but it
> takes to long to do a burn at 17mins.
>
> >you still haven't shown me any proof of your 3 minutes faster claim.
Show
> >me some benchmarks or something, then maybe I might believe it. I
seriously
> >doubt your claim. It only has a 2MB cache as opposed to the Sony's 8 MB
> >cache. Bu they if you can back it up I'll believe you. Plus it only
reads
> >at 12x as opposed to the Sony's 16x.
>
> A full disk burn on a pioneer a05/a06 does it in a little over 14 mins
> where the sony takes 17 mins.
>
> You claim you have a sony dvd burner. Do a full disc burn yourself.
> I've used both.
>
> When you do a full disc burn you will notice on the time clock of the
> program the time it takes to do a full disc burn. This is even
> mentioned on the sony site that a full disk burn takes 17 mins for a
> full disc burn.
>
> To those who own pioneers or both do a test burn for a full disc. You
> will see which is faster.
>
>

"Pat" <hotpatpar********.com> wrote in message
news:DqH3b.11347$v57.568@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> I haven't had any success playing videos I burned on both DVD+RW and
DVD-RW
> on any standalone home theater players I tried. They only work on my PC.
> DOes anyone know what the compatibility of HT players with rewriteables.
It
> must be low on all but the new models that have been shipping in the last
> year.

Yep, you got it. Cheap players and old players are not going to have good
support of any type of recordable media.

"CAM" <CAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:llctkv46k2banhbj9uubjuuubvd5pea06c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:38:44 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
> dot com> wrote:
>
>
> Who uses plus media.
> Plus media is on the way out if you didn't know.
> Need proof. The latest sony recorders don't do dvd+r any more.
> The blu ray recorders are only backwack compatible with
> dvd-r/-rw/-ram/cdr.
>
>>
>
I do and I choose + over - because of it support for multisession. I the new
Pioneer has solved that problem I will give it a closer look.

Mike Skuczas

I have done a full disk burn...took 15 minutes.

--
Night_Seer
"CAM" <CAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:llctkv46k2banhbj9uubjuuubvd5pea06c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:38:44 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
> dot com> wrote:
>
> > Geez man your talking semantics...like I said...I don't know about 5
> >minutes from now if you read my original post...as in I don't really
know.
> >If your going to burn rewritables the Sony IS faster than the pioneer,
and
>
> Both the sony and the pioneers do DVD-RW at 2X.
> The sony 510a does dvd+rw at 4x and the pioneer a06 at 2.4x.
>
> Who uses plus media.
> Plus media is on the way out if you didn't know.
> Need proof. The latest sony recorders don't do dvd+r any more.
> The blu ray recorders are only backwack compatible with
> dvd-r/-rw/-ram/cdr.
>
> I own a dual burner and only ever use dvd-r media.
> A rarely use dvd-rw media at all. I prefer dvd-ram media.
> Yes I have another dvd burner in my pc that can burn to ram in the
> panasonic. This way I can take my dvd-ram media froim my e30/e80 and
> pop it in to the pc to re edit. Saves a bit using dvd-r media.
>
> LG has a burner that does all the formats including dvd-ram but it
> takes to long to do a burn at 17mins.
>
> >you still haven't shown me any proof of your 3 minutes faster claim.
Show
> >me some benchmarks or something, then maybe I might believe it. I
seriously
> >doubt your claim. It only has a 2MB cache as opposed to the Sony's 8 MB
> >cache. Bu they if you can back it up I'll believe you. Plus it only
reads
> >at 12x as opposed to the Sony's 16x.
>
> A full disk burn on a pioneer a05/a06 does it in a little over 14 mins
> where the sony takes 17 mins.
>
> You claim you have a sony dvd burner. Do a full disc burn yourself.
> I've used both.
>
> When you do a full disc burn you will notice on the time clock of the
> program the time it takes to do a full disc burn. This is even
> mentioned on the sony site that a full disk burn takes 17 mins for a
> full disc burn.
>
> To those who own pioneers or both do a test burn for a full disc. You
> will see which is faster.
>
>

Whats the diffeence between:

LG GSA-4040B (only $200)
and
LG GMA-4040B

"Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
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> I have done a full disk burn...took 15 minutes.
>
> --
> Night_Seer
> "CAM" <CAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:llctkv46k2banhbj9uubjuuubvd5pea06c@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:38:44 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
> > dot com> wrote:
> >
> > > Geez man your talking semantics...like I said...I don't know about
5
> > >minutes from now if you read my original post...as in I don't really
> know.
> > >If your going to burn rewritables the Sony IS faster than the pioneer,
> and
> >
> > Both the sony and the pioneers do DVD-RW at 2X.
> > The sony 510a does dvd+rw at 4x and the pioneer a06 at 2.4x.
> >
> > Who uses plus media.
> > Plus media is on the way out if you didn't know.
> > Need proof. The latest sony recorders don't do dvd+r any more.
> > The blu ray recorders are only backwack compatible with
> > dvd-r/-rw/-ram/cdr.
> >
> > I own a dual burner and only ever use dvd-r media.
> > A rarely use dvd-rw media at all. I prefer dvd-ram media.
> > Yes I have another dvd burner in my pc that can burn to ram in the
> > panasonic. This way I can take my dvd-ram media froim my e30/e80 and
> > pop it in to the pc to re edit. Saves a bit using dvd-r media.
> >
> > LG has a burner that does all the formats including dvd-ram but it
> > takes to long to do a burn at 17mins.
> >
> > >you still haven't shown me any proof of your 3 minutes faster claim.
> Show
> > >me some benchmarks or something, then maybe I might believe it. I
> seriously
> > >doubt your claim. It only has a 2MB cache as opposed to the Sony's 8 MB
> > >cache. Bu they if you can back it up I'll believe you. Plus it only
> reads
> > >at 12x as opposed to the Sony's 16x.
> >
> > A full disk burn on a pioneer a05/a06 does it in a little over 14 mins
> > where the sony takes 17 mins.
> >
> > You claim you have a sony dvd burner. Do a full disc burn yourself.
> > I've used both.
> >
> > When you do a full disc burn you will notice on the time clock of the
> > program the time it takes to do a full disc burn. This is even
> > mentioned on the sony site that a full disk burn takes 17 mins for a
> > full disc burn.
> >
> > To those who own pioneers or both do a test burn for a full disc. You
> > will see which is faster.
> >
> >
>
>

In article <684ukvcpk5e7gstcn7tq56emkqkp77bou2@4ax.com>,
CAM <CAM@nospam.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:29:30 GMT, "Zork" <zork152000******.com> wrote:
>
>>The the LG model that does all formats.

Iomega's "superdrive" writes all three formats too. I've read in this
ng that the hardware inside it is the same as the LG/Hitachi drive
under discussion. I don't know if the Iomega drive is for sale yet.
Provantage shows it on their web pile, but it might be backordered.
--
David Arnstein
arnstein+usenet@pobox.com

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:34:55 -0400, "Michael Skuczas"
<mskuczas@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"CAM" <CAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:llctkv46k2banhbj9uubjuuubvd5pea06c@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:38:44 -0700, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
>> dot com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Who uses plus media.
>> Plus media is on the way out if you didn't know.
>> Need proof. The latest sony recorders don't do dvd+r any more.
>> The blu ray recorders are only backwack compatible with
>> dvd-r/-rw/-ram/cdr.
>>
>>>
>>
>I do and I choose + over - because of it support for multisession. I the new
>Pioneer has solved that problem I will give it a closer look.

DVD minus media has always been able to do multi session but you would
have to have rocks in your head to burn dvd video with multisession
because stand alone dvd players have a wee bit of bother with
multisession media.