Greetings to the group!
I'm a new comer, needing help.
Here's a bit on my computer ;
Windows 98
450 MHz
256 mem
20 gig HD

Lately, my computer has been running scan disc w/ surface scan every time I
start it.
On surface scan last time, it says I have around 200 bad sectors.
As of yesterday, every time I try to open Netscape,
I get a box that says "This program has performed an illegal operation and
will be shut down..."

It did this once before and a friend was able to fix it.
My question is; When he fixed it before, I remember him getting a
screen (not the same screen as in scan disc, I don't think, seems it was
blue??) that asked him if he wanted to fix the files.
He just kept hitting "fix" until it got to the end.
My computer was fine after that.
Can anyone tell me how to get there, or have any other suggestions,
other than I need to up grade (I can't afford to at the moment).
I know a lot of people say, you need to operate thru outlook/explorer, but
Netscape has a few features that I like, and am use to.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Limping along,
Butch

Nothing wrong with using Netscape...stick it to Microsoft. As for the scan
disk thing, I believe he may have run scan disk at boottime, but I do not
know how to do this myself on windows 98. I know its possible, but I'm not
exactly sure how. Sounds like your hard drive wants to die...might be time
to back up your files just in case. Is that the only program having
problems.

--
Night_Seer
"Butch" <drshanklin@vci.net> wrote in message
news:oROdna5tyIMb8t-iRTvUqg@vci.net...
> Greetings to the group!
> I'm a new comer, needing help.
> Here's a bit on my computer ;
> Windows 98
> 450 MHz
> 256 mem
> 20 gig HD
>
> Lately, my computer has been running scan disc w/ surface scan every time
I
> start it.
> On surface scan last time, it says I have around 200 bad sectors.
> As of yesterday, every time I try to open Netscape,
> I get a box that says "This program has performed an illegal operation and
> will be shut down..."
>
> It did this once before and a friend was able to fix it.
> My question is; When he fixed it before, I remember him getting a
> screen (not the same screen as in scan disc, I don't think, seems it was
> blue??) that asked him if he wanted to fix the files.
> He just kept hitting "fix" until it got to the end.
> My computer was fine after that.
> Can anyone tell me how to get there, or have any other suggestions,
> other than I need to up grade (I can't afford to at the moment).
> I know a lot of people say, you need to operate thru outlook/explorer, but
> Netscape has a few features that I like, and am use to.
> Any help would be much appreciated!
> Limping along,
> Butch
>
>
>

Your hard drive is failing and scan disk is not gonna fix it.

Butch wrote:
>
> Greetings to the group!
> I'm a new comer, needing help.
> Here's a bit on my computer ;
> Windows 98
> 450 MHz
> 256 mem
> 20 gig HD
>
> Lately, my computer has been running scan disc w/ surface scan every time I
> start it.
> On surface scan last time, it says I have around 200 bad sectors.
> As of yesterday, every time I try to open Netscape,
> I get a box that says "This program has performed an illegal operation and
> will be shut down..."
>
> It did this once before and a friend was able to fix it.
> My question is; When he fixed it before, I remember him getting a
> screen (not the same screen as in scan disc, I don't think, seems it was
> blue??) that asked him if he wanted to fix the files.
> He just kept hitting "fix" until it got to the end.
> My computer was fine after that.
> Can anyone tell me how to get there, or have any other suggestions,
> other than I need to up grade (I can't afford to at the moment).
> I know a lot of people say, you need to operate thru outlook/explorer, but
> Netscape has a few features that I like, and am use to.
> Any help would be much appreciated!
> Limping along,
> Butch

Thanks Guys,
I really appreciate it!

What if I get a new HD, can I just "plug in" and transfer the files?
Or will the bad sectors transfer to?
What about getting a CD Burner and burning my back-ups,
will that work?
I do have a 100 zip drive I can use for backing up.
What do you recommend?

With much appreciation,
Butch


>Butch wrote:
>>
>> Greetings to the group!
>> I'm a new comer, needing help.
>> Here's a bit on my computer ;
>> Windows 98
>> 450 MHz
>> 256 mem
>> 20 gig HD
>>
>> Lately, my computer has been running scan disc w/ surface scan every time
I
>> start it.
>> On surface scan last time, it says I have around 200 bad sectors.
>> As of yesterday, every time I try to open Netscape,
>> I get a box that says "This program has performed an illegal operation
and
>> will be shut down..."
>>
>> It did this once before and a friend was able to fix it.
>> My question is; When he fixed it before, I remember him getting a
>> screen (not the same screen as in scan disc, I don't think, seems it was
>> blue??) that asked him if he wanted to fix the files.
>> He just kept hitting "fix" until it got to the end.
>> My computer was fine after that.
>> Can anyone tell me how to get there, or have any other suggestions,
>> other than I need to up grade (I can't afford to at the moment).
>> I know a lot of people say, you need to operate thru outlook/explorer,
but
>> Netscape has a few features that I like, and am use to.
>> Any help would be much appreciated!
>> Limping along,
>> Butch

X-No-Archive:Yes

Safest way (has extra steps):

1) Remove original drive and install new one as C:
2) Booting from a floppy use Fdisk.exe to create partition & set active
3) Use Format.com to format drive
4) Use sys.com to make it bootable
5) Shut down again and reinstall your original drive as C: (Master) and
now install the new drive as D: (Slave)
6) Reboot your OS. It should boot up exactly as it did before, only now
your new drive should be there as D:
7) Open a DOS window (not shut down & restart in DOS mode)
8) Type "xcopy32.exe c:\*.* d:\ /E /H /R /Y /C" (no quotes)
9) Shut down once again and Remove C: drive and replace with D: (copied)
setting the jumpers to stand-alone (or master).
10 Reboot. If you followed these instructions to the letter you will be
just as you were originally.



Butch wrote:
>
> Thanks Guys,
> I really appreciate it!
>
> What if I get a new HD, can I just "plug in" and transfer the files?
> Or will the bad sectors transfer to?
> What about getting a CD Burner and burning my back-ups,
> will that work?
> I do have a 100 zip drive I can use for backing up.
> What do you recommend?
>
> With much appreciation,
> Butch
>
> >Butch wrote:
> >>
> >> Greetings to the group!
> >> I'm a new comer, needing help.
> >> Here's a bit on my computer ;
> >> Windows 98
> >> 450 MHz
> >> 256 mem
> >> 20 gig HD
> >>
> >> Lately, my computer has been running scan disc w/ surface scan every time
> I
> >> start it.
> >> On surface scan last time, it says I have around 200 bad sectors.
> >> As of yesterday, every time I try to open Netscape,
> >> I get a box that says "This program has performed an illegal operation
> and
> >> will be shut down..."
> >>
> >> It did this once before and a friend was able to fix it.
> >> My question is; When he fixed it before, I remember him getting a
> >> screen (not the same screen as in scan disc, I don't think, seems it was
> >> blue??) that asked him if he wanted to fix the files.
> >> He just kept hitting "fix" until it got to the end.
> >> My computer was fine after that.
> >> Can anyone tell me how to get there, or have any other suggestions,
> >> other than I need to up grade (I can't afford to at the moment).
> >> I know a lot of people say, you need to operate thru outlook/explorer,
> but
> >> Netscape has a few features that I like, and am use to.
> >> Any help would be much appreciated!
> >> Limping along,
> >> Butch

RED wrote in message <3F4354FB.143ACE1A@stinking.ads.com>...

>Safest way (has extra steps):
>
>1) Remove original drive and install new one as C:
>2) Booting from a floppy use Fdisk.exe to create partition & set active
>3) Use Format.com to format drive
>4) Use sys.com to make it bootable

Why not format c:/s and do the format and system bootable in one step?

>5) Shut down again and reinstall your original drive as C: (Master) and
>now install the new drive as D: (Slave)
>6) Reboot your OS. It should boot up exactly as it did before, only now
>your new drive should be there as D:
>7) Open a DOS window (not shut down & restart in DOS mode)
>8) Type "xcopy32.exe c:\*.* d:\ /E /H /R /Y /C" (no quotes)
>9) Shut down once again and Remove C: drive and replace with D:
(copied)
>setting the jumpers to stand-alone (or master).
>10 Reboot. If you followed these instructions to the letter you will be
>just as you were originally.

Not bad, but this doesn't create a perfect copy.

The new HD will not contain the flag that a successful shut-down
occurred and it won't contain any final settings written during the
shutdown process.

Persoanlly, I prefer to Ghost a HD and be done with it, but wouldn't it
be better to go to Safe Mode Command Prompt only to do as you suggest?
HTH

It works flawlessly, I've done it hundreds of times .....

Peter D wrote:
>
> RED wrote in message <3F4354FB.143ACE1A@stinking.ads.com>...
>
> >Safest way (has extra steps):
> >
> >1) Remove original drive and install new one as C:
> >2) Booting from a floppy use Fdisk.exe to create partition & set active
> >3) Use Format.com to format drive
> >4) Use sys.com to make it bootable
>
> Why not format c:/s and do the format and system bootable in one step?

nitpicking

>
> >5) Shut down again and reinstall your original drive as C: (Master) and
> >now install the new drive as D: (Slave)
> >6) Reboot your OS. It should boot up exactly as it did before, only now
> >your new drive should be there as D:
> >7) Open a DOS window (not shut down & restart in DOS mode)
> >8) Type "xcopy32.exe c:\*.* d:\ /E /H /R /Y /C" (no quotes)
> >9) Shut down once again and Remove C: drive and replace with D:
> (copied)
> >setting the jumpers to stand-alone (or master).
> >10 Reboot. If you followed these instructions to the letter you will be
> >just as you were originally.
>
> Not bad, but this doesn't create a perfect copy.
>
> The new HD will not contain the flag that a successful shut-down
> occurred

doesn't matter

> and it won't contain any final settings written during the
> shutdown process.

also doesn't matter
>
> Persoanlly, I prefer to Ghost a HD and be done with it, but wouldn't it
> be better to go to Safe Mode Command Prompt only to do as you suggest?
> HTH

Don't have to but you could.
Not every one has ghost but everyone has xcopy32.exe

RED wrote in message <3F43ABAE.656209A8@stinking.ads.com>...
>It works flawlessly, I've done it hundreds of times .....

It may well work, but my point was it won't be identical. It can't be
because the 'new' image is complete before a shut down. No biggie, just
felt it was worth pointing out. :-)

>Peter D wrote:
>>
>> RED wrote in message <3F4354FB.143ACE1A@stinking.ads.com>...
>>
>> >Safest way (has extra steps):
>> >
>> >1) Remove original drive and install new one as C:
>> >2) Booting from a floppy use Fdisk.exe to create partition & set
active
>> >3) Use Format.com to format drive
>> >4) Use sys.com to make it bootable
>>
>> Why not format c:/s and do the format and system bootable in one
step?
>
>nitpicking

Maybe so, but why not take the advice and save a step anyway?

>> >5) Shut down again and reinstall your original drive as C: (Master)
and
>> >now install the new drive as D: (Slave)
>> >6) Reboot your OS. It should boot up exactly as it did before, only
now
>> >your new drive should be there as D:
>> >7) Open a DOS window (not shut down & restart in DOS mode)
>> >8) Type "xcopy32.exe c:\*.* d:\ /E /H /R /Y /C" (no quotes)
>> >9) Shut down once again and Remove C: drive and replace with D:
>> (copied)
>> >setting the jumpers to stand-alone (or master).
>> >10 Reboot. If you followed these instructions to the letter you will
be
>> >just as you were originally.
>>
>> Not bad, but this doesn't create a perfect copy.
>>
>> The new HD will not contain the flag that a successful shut-down
>> occurred
>
>doesn't matter

Maybe not, but why not avoid it if it does matter?

>> and it won't contain any final settings written during the
>> shutdown process.
>
>also doesn't matter

Ditto.

>> Persoanlly, I prefer to Ghost a HD and be done with it, but wouldn't
it
>> be better to go to Safe Mode Command Prompt only to do as you
suggest?
>> HTH
>
>Don't have to but you could.
>Not every one has ghost but everyone has xcopy32.exe

So why is Safe Mode Command Prompt Only not a feasible alternative?

PS. Thanks for the string after xcopy(32). Never could remember all the
settings. -- "CHERY" :-)