On 2006-10-07 10:23:52 -0500, Bat Man <na.na@na.na> said:

>
> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail???
>
> Also, which one will PROPERLY import all my OLD OS9 Claris Emailer
> preferences, filters, email, addresses, mailboxes, etc. - so I don't
> lose them or have to do tooooo much work?
>
>
> TIA

Microsoft Office 2004's "Entourage" is your answer.

Not sure if you know this, but the Claris Emailer engineering team left
Apple and was hired by Microsoft's Mac Business Unit to create Outlook
Express, and later Entourage. In fact, you will find the engineering
team actually modeled a *lot* of the functionality from Claris Emailer
to Outlook Express and Entourage. And they didn't stop there -
Entourage has steadily improved over time to become arguably the most
fully-featured emailer available on the Mac platform!

As far as importing from Claris Emailer goes, my bet is you'll have
better luck with Entourage than with others, since it uses a lot of the
same or similar organization as Claris Emailer. In fact, Entourage has
a built-in Claris Email importer that does the whole job for you. Check
it out:

<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/resources/resources.aspx?pid=resourcekits&rk=officex&article =/mac/officex/ork/Importing_Data_Entourage.xml>

If

you want a user experience close to (and actually improved in many ways
from) what you are used to with Claris Emailer, you'd do good to check
out Microsoft Office 2004's Entourage. I am a long-time Claris Emailer
user myself, and moving to Outlooks Express, and later Microsoft
Office's Entourage from Claris Emailer felt like a natural progression
to me. My advice: you'd do well to check it out.

--
JR

On 2006-10-07 10:23:52 -0500, Bat Man <na.na@na.na> said:

>
> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail???
>
> Also, which one will PROPERLY import all my OLD OS9 Claris Emailer
> preferences, filters, email, addresses, mailboxes, etc. - so I don't
> lose them or have to do tooooo much work?
>
>
> TIA

Microsoft Office 2004's "Entourage" is your answer.

Not sure if you know this, but the Claris Emailer engineering team left
Apple and was hired by Microsoft's Mac Business Unit to create Outlook
Express, and later Entourage. In fact, you will find the engineering
team actually modeled a *lot* of the functionality from Claris Emailer
to Outlook Express and Entourage. And they didn't stop there -
Entourage has steadily improved over time to become arguably the most
fully-featured emailer available on the Mac platform!

As far as importing from Claris Emailer goes, my bet is you'll have
better luck with Entourage than with others, since it uses a lot of the
same or similar organization as Claris Emailer. In fact, Entourage has
a built-in Claris Email importer that does the whole job for you. Check
it out:

<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/resources/resources.aspx?pid=resourcekits&rk=officex&article =/mac/officex/ork/Importing_Data_Entourage.xml>

If

you want a user experience close to (and actually improved in many ways
from) what you are used to with Claris Emailer, you'd do good to check
out Microsoft Office 2004's Entourage. I am a long-time Claris Emailer
user myself, and moving to Outlooks Express, and later Microsoft
Office's Entourage from Claris Emailer felt like a natural progression
to me. My advice: you'd do well to check it out.

--
JR

> In article <4527c689$0$7155$a8266bb1@news.titannews.com>, Bat Man
> <na.na@na.na> wrote:
>
>> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail???
>

My ISP's Squirrelmail-based webmail. I haven't used a POP or IMAP
client in years.

Greg

> In article <4527c689$0$7155$a8266bb1@news.titannews.com>, Bat Man
> <na.na@na.na> wrote:
>
>> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail???
>

My ISP's Squirrelmail-based webmail. I haven't used a POP or IMAP
client in years.

Greg

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2006-10-07 10:23:52 -0500, Bat Man <na.na@na.na> said:
>
>>
>> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail???
>>
>> Also, which one will PROPERLY import all my OLD OS9 Claris Emailer
>> preferences, filters, email, addresses, mailboxes, etc. - so I don't
>> lose them or have to do tooooo much work?
>>
>>
>> TIA
>
> Microsoft Office 2004's "Entourage" is your answer.
>

Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a license.
Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.

Greg

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2006-10-07 10:23:52 -0500, Bat Man <na.na@na.na> said:
>
>>
>> What is the BEST EMAIL Program? Powermail or Apple Mail???
>>
>> Also, which one will PROPERLY import all my OLD OS9 Claris Emailer
>> preferences, filters, email, addresses, mailboxes, etc. - so I don't
>> lose them or have to do tooooo much work?
>>
>>
>> TIA
>
> Microsoft Office 2004's "Entourage" is your answer.
>

Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a license.
Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.

Greg

On 2006-10-07 15:19:38 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:

> Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
> letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a
> license. Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.

What makes you gag, the word "Microsoft" or the fact that a fantastic
team of engineers originally from Claris/Apple created the application?
Not every engineer at Microsoft is evil. ; )

--
JR

On 2006-10-07 15:19:38 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:

> Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
> letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a
> license. Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.

What makes you gag, the word "Microsoft" or the fact that a fantastic
team of engineers originally from Claris/Apple created the application?
Not every engineer at Microsoft is evil. ; )

--
JR

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2006-10-07 15:19:38 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:
>
>> Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
>> letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a
>> license. Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.
>
> What makes you gag, the word "Microsoft" or the fact that a fantastic
> team of engineers originally from Claris/Apple created the application?
> Not every engineer at Microsoft is evil. ; )
>

Actually none of the above, I have a lot of respect for the Mac
developers at Microsoft. Using Entourage makes me gag. It's the most
unintuitive mail client I've ever used.

Greg

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2006-10-07 15:19:38 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:
>
>> Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
>> letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a
>> license. Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.
>
> What makes you gag, the word "Microsoft" or the fact that a fantastic
> team of engineers originally from Claris/Apple created the application?
> Not every engineer at Microsoft is evil. ; )
>

Actually none of the above, I have a lot of respect for the Mac
developers at Microsoft. Using Entourage makes me gag. It's the most
unintuitive mail client I've ever used.

Greg

On 2006-10-07 16:35:53 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2006-10-07 15:19:38 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:
>>
>>> Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
>>> letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a
>>> license. Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.
>>
>> What makes you gag, the word "Microsoft" or the fact that a fantastic
>> team of engineers originally from Claris/Apple created the application?
>> Not every engineer at Microsoft is evil. ; )
>>
>
> Actually none of the above, I have a lot of respect for the Mac
> developers at Microsoft. Using Entourage makes me gag. It's the most
> unintuitive mail client I've ever used.
>
> Greg

For those of us who came from Claris Emailer, it's the opposite - it's
the *most* intuitive of them all.

Different strokes for different folks.

--
JR

On 2006-10-07 16:35:53 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2006-10-07 15:19:38 -0500, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> said:
>>
>>> Makes me gag. With Tiger I suggest Apple's Mail for my users at work
>>> letting them know I'll set Entourage up for them if they have a
>>> license. Everyone's been happy with Mail so far.
>>
>> What makes you gag, the word "Microsoft" or the fact that a fantastic
>> team of engineers originally from Claris/Apple created the application?
>> Not every engineer at Microsoft is evil. ; )
>>
>
> Actually none of the above, I have a lot of respect for the Mac
> developers at Microsoft. Using Entourage makes me gag. It's the most
> unintuitive mail client I've ever used.
>
> Greg

For those of us who came from Claris Emailer, it's the opposite - it's
the *most* intuitive of them all.

Different strokes for different folks.

--
JR

In article <200610071338501003-jollyroger@nullorg>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@null.org> wrote:

> Not sure if you know this, but the Claris Emailer engineering team
> left Apple and was hired by Microsoft's Mac Business Unit to create
> Outlook Express, and later Entourage.

Not exactly. The lead engineer of Emailer went to MS and wound up on
those teams. After Apple killed Emailer, some members of the Emailer
team were then hired to join him. Also, not all of them are still there.

But yes, there are a lot of design elements of Emailer in Entourage for
that reason.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.

In article <200610071338501003-jollyroger@nullorg>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@null.org> wrote:

> Not sure if you know this, but the Claris Emailer engineering team
> left Apple and was hired by Microsoft's Mac Business Unit to create
> Outlook Express, and later Entourage.

Not exactly. The lead engineer of Emailer went to MS and wound up on
those teams. After Apple killed Emailer, some members of the Emailer
team were then hired to join him. Also, not all of them are still there.

But yes, there are a lot of design elements of Emailer in Entourage for
that reason.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.

In article <haberg-0710062008570001@c83-250-192-69.bredband.comhem.se>,
haberg@math.su.se (Hans Aberg) wrote:

> One filter feature lost was the distinction between manual and
> automatic filtering. I had Eudora set up so that personal incoming
> mail belonging to a list was sorted into the inbox, and after that, I
> just applied manual sorting to get it into the list mailbox. This I
> cannot do in Mail.

I assume that you mean a private reply to a message on a list. True,
there is no manual triggering of rules. However, it is just about as
easy to drag a message to a folder as it is to click a button or pull
down a menu to trigger a filter or rule.

> For me, the main thing was to get over the mail. My mailboxes were on
> several MB's though.

When I transfered from Emailer to Mail.app (about the same time that
MTNW was carbonized so it could run natively under OS X), I had no
problems transferring messages to mail from emailer, so long as emailer
itself was on the system and that Classic could be run.

I transferred the address book by exporting it as LDAP and importing it
into Address Book.

> I do not want to do another port, though.

I don't blame you; I don't want to do that either

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.