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Old 02-06-2007, 07:17 PM
JH
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G3 web server

I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
need NO-IP? Does my IP change?
Can the hardware and OS do it? Any other ideas? My Go-Daddy hosting
fee is near $400 a year, besides the challenge might be fun, but if
it's impossible or impractical, I'd like to know now
It didn't have a keyboard or mouse. Should I get usb stuff or ADB
ADB is new to me. Really, Macs are new to me. They've changed a lot
since I had one.
This G3 has 224 MB ram and 20 gig HD
I have a firewire ext HD for more storage, but I'm not clear on what
RAM to buy to Upgrade,
I found a nice manual at
http://developer.apple.com/documenta...el%20layout%22
but I still need some basic explainations.

Also When I worked at a ComputerLand back in 84 I bought the Mac on
it's
release. The inside of the case has the signitures of the design team
embossed or whatever you call it.
Anyone know the cash value today? Thanks. John

P.S. I have the trial version of Forte Agent. (it isn't free any more)
Anyone have the old free or know of a good, free newsreader, for the
PC right now. I have to get the G3 going.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: G3 web server

In article <0dmig2t54gov4iterg3of4pv2e98c27o06@4ax.com>,
JH <jjhoban@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
> and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
> different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
> need NO-IP? Does my IP change?




Most DSL providers refuse the average personal DSL subscriber to run
their own web server, plus your upload speed will reduce the actual
availability.

Some systems may allow use of a different port such as 8080 but if you
call and ask most of them they will tell you its against their TOS,
unless of course you purchase a commercial account and a fixed IP.

Some won't allow VPN either, reserving remote access of systems to
comemrcial accounts. It may be possible but don't expect them to help
ypu if something goes wrong.
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Re: G3 web server

In article <0dmig2t54gov4iterg3of4pv2e98c27o06@4ax.com>,
JH <jjhoban@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
> and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
> different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
> need NO-IP? Does my IP change?




Most DSL providers refuse the average personal DSL subscriber to run
their own web server, plus your upload speed will reduce the actual
availability.

Some systems may allow use of a different port such as 8080 but if you
call and ask most of them they will tell you its against their TOS,
unless of course you purchase a commercial account and a fixed IP.

Some won't allow VPN either, reserving remote access of systems to
comemrcial accounts. It may be possible but don't expect them to help
ypu if something goes wrong.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:19 PM
eponymous cowherd
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Re: G3 web server

In article <0dmig2t54gov4iterg3of4pv2e98c27o06@4ax.com>,
JH <jjhoban@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
> and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
> different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
> need NO-IP? Does my IP change?
> Can the hardware and OS do it?


The hardware and OS can do it. Webserving is not that challenging. In
the '90s people used to claim that a 160Mhz pentium could "saturate" a
T1 connection. Even if you are using PHP and MySQL one computer can
handle it. To give an idea of how many websites are placed on a
webserver, I've seen ads which boast that they never put more than 256
sites on a server.

The OS has all the features you need to handle webserving. I often test
changes to my own hobby site by having a copy of it on my mac and then
accessing it by 120.0.0.1. My mac does everything the same way the
server I pay for does, because they are both unix.




> Any other ideas? My Go-Daddy hosting
> fee is near $400 a year, besides the challenge might be fun, but if
> it's impossible or impractical, I'd like to know now
> It didn't have a keyboard or mouse.


I pay $35 a year at page-zone.com for a single domain hobby site that
does around 250MB of traffic a month. I don't see why anyone should pay
a lot for these types of things.


> Should I get usb stuff or ADB
> ADB is new to me. Really, Macs are new to me. They've changed a lot
> since I had one.


ADB is dinosaur technology at this point. You will prolly have to pay
extra to find something that old.


> This G3 has 224 MB ram and 20 gig HD
> I have a firewire ext HD for more storage, but I'm not clear on what
> RAM to buy to Upgrade,
> I found a nice manual at
> http://developer.apple.com/documenta...s/Macintosh_CP
> Us-G3/PowerMacintosh_G3/PowerMacintosh_G3.pdf#search=%22mac%20g3%20back%20 pane
> l%20layout%22
> but I still need some basic explainations.
>

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eponymous cowherd
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Re: G3 web server

In article <0dmig2t54gov4iterg3of4pv2e98c27o06@4ax.com>,
JH <jjhoban@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
> and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
> different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
> need NO-IP? Does my IP change?
> Can the hardware and OS do it?


The hardware and OS can do it. Webserving is not that challenging. In
the '90s people used to claim that a 160Mhz pentium could "saturate" a
T1 connection. Even if you are using PHP and MySQL one computer can
handle it. To give an idea of how many websites are placed on a
webserver, I've seen ads which boast that they never put more than 256
sites on a server.

The OS has all the features you need to handle webserving. I often test
changes to my own hobby site by having a copy of it on my mac and then
accessing it by 120.0.0.1. My mac does everything the same way the
server I pay for does, because they are both unix.




> Any other ideas? My Go-Daddy hosting
> fee is near $400 a year, besides the challenge might be fun, but if
> it's impossible or impractical, I'd like to know now
> It didn't have a keyboard or mouse.


I pay $35 a year at page-zone.com for a single domain hobby site that
does around 250MB of traffic a month. I don't see why anyone should pay
a lot for these types of things.


> Should I get usb stuff or ADB
> ADB is new to me. Really, Macs are new to me. They've changed a lot
> since I had one.


ADB is dinosaur technology at this point. You will prolly have to pay
extra to find something that old.


> This G3 has 224 MB ram and 20 gig HD
> I have a firewire ext HD for more storage, but I'm not clear on what
> RAM to buy to Upgrade,
> I found a nice manual at
> http://developer.apple.com/documenta...s/Macintosh_CP
> Us-G3/PowerMacintosh_G3/PowerMacintosh_G3.pdf#search=%22mac%20g3%20back%20 pane
> l%20layout%22
> but I still need some basic explainations.
>

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Re: G3 web server

in article no-3354C6.15521725092006@news.verizon.net, eponymous cowherd at
no@spam4me.com wrote on 9/25/06 5:52 PM:

> In article <0dmig2t54gov4iterg3of4pv2e98c27o06@4ax.com>,
> JH <jjhoban@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
>> and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
>> different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
>> need NO-IP? Does my IP change?
>> Can the hardware and OS do it?

>
> The hardware and OS can do it. Webserving is not that challenging. In
> the '90s people used to claim that a 160Mhz pentium could "saturate" a
> T1 connection. Even if you are using PHP and MySQL one computer can
> handle it. To give an idea of how many websites are placed on a
> webserver, I've seen ads which boast that they never put more than 256
> sites on a server.
>
> The OS has all the features you need to handle webserving. I often test
> changes to my own hobby site by having a copy of it on my mac and then
> accessing it by 120.0.0.1. My mac does everything the same way the
> server I pay for does, because they are both unix.
>
>
>
>
>> Any other ideas? My Go-Daddy hosting
>> fee is near $400 a year, besides the challenge might be fun, but if
>> it's impossible or impractical, I'd like to know now
>> It didn't have a keyboard or mouse.

>
> I pay $35 a year at page-zone.com for a single domain hobby site that
> does around 250MB of traffic a month. I don't see why anyone should pay
> a lot for these types of things.
>
>
>> Should I get usb stuff or ADB
>> ADB is new to me. Really, Macs are new to me. They've changed a lot
>> since I had one.

>
> ADB is dinosaur technology at this point. You will prolly have to pay
> extra to find something that old.
>
>
>> This G3 has 224 MB ram and 20 gig HD
>> I have a firewire ext HD for more storage, but I'm not clear on what
>> RAM to buy to Upgrade,
>> I found a nice manual at
>>

http://developer.apple.com/documenta...tes/Macintosh_
C>> P
>>

Us-G3/PowerMacintosh_G3/PowerMacintosh_G3.pdf#search=%22mac%20g3%20back%20 pa
n>> e
>> l%20layout%22
>> but I still need some basic explainations.
>>

You can run a web server with far less computer power than a G3. Check out

http://www.spacerogue.net/Camneerg/index.html

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Matthew Lybanon
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Re: G3 web server

in article no-3354C6.15521725092006@news.verizon.net, eponymous cowherd at
no@spam4me.com wrote on 9/25/06 5:52 PM:

> In article <0dmig2t54gov4iterg3of4pv2e98c27o06@4ax.com>,
> JH <jjhoban@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
>> and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
>> different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
>> need NO-IP? Does my IP change?
>> Can the hardware and OS do it?

>
> The hardware and OS can do it. Webserving is not that challenging. In
> the '90s people used to claim that a 160Mhz pentium could "saturate" a
> T1 connection. Even if you are using PHP and MySQL one computer can
> handle it. To give an idea of how many websites are placed on a
> webserver, I've seen ads which boast that they never put more than 256
> sites on a server.
>
> The OS has all the features you need to handle webserving. I often test
> changes to my own hobby site by having a copy of it on my mac and then
> accessing it by 120.0.0.1. My mac does everything the same way the
> server I pay for does, because they are both unix.
>
>
>
>
>> Any other ideas? My Go-Daddy hosting
>> fee is near $400 a year, besides the challenge might be fun, but if
>> it's impossible or impractical, I'd like to know now
>> It didn't have a keyboard or mouse.

>
> I pay $35 a year at page-zone.com for a single domain hobby site that
> does around 250MB of traffic a month. I don't see why anyone should pay
> a lot for these types of things.
>
>
>> Should I get usb stuff or ADB
>> ADB is new to me. Really, Macs are new to me. They've changed a lot
>> since I had one.

>
> ADB is dinosaur technology at this point. You will prolly have to pay
> extra to find something that old.
>
>
>> This G3 has 224 MB ram and 20 gig HD
>> I have a firewire ext HD for more storage, but I'm not clear on what
>> RAM to buy to Upgrade,
>> I found a nice manual at
>>

http://developer.apple.com/documenta...tes/Macintosh_
C>> P
>>

Us-G3/PowerMacintosh_G3/PowerMacintosh_G3.pdf#search=%22mac%20g3%20back%20 pa
n>> e
>> l%20layout%22
>> but I still need some basic explainations.
>>

You can run a web server with far less computer power than a G3. Check out

http://www.spacerogue.net/Camneerg/index.html

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