I can not afford the Apple router,


I was hoping I could find advice on other
cheaper brands. Today I found a Belkin that seemed good.

I live in a studio apartment with two Macs one being a
MacBook Pro the other a G4.

I am getting a router because Verizons VoiceWing
(Voice over IP) which I just signed up for requires a router.

I thought I would pick up a wireless router for my
MacBook Pro my G4 connects by cable

thanks

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Kevin Duggan wrote:

> I can not afford the Apple router,
>
>
> I was hoping I could find advice on other
> cheaper brands. Today I found a Belkin that seemed good.
>
> I live in a studio apartment with two Macs one being a
> MacBook Pro the other a G4.
>
> I am getting a router because Verizons VoiceWing
> (Voice over IP) which I just signed up for requires a router.
>
> I thought I would pick up a wireless router for my
> MacBook Pro my G4 connects by cable
>
> thanks
>
Personally I've had rotten luck with Belkin stuff. I'm currently using a
Linksys wrt-54g with three wireless and four wired Macs. Took me less
than a half hour to set up. Been flawless since I set it up months ago.
My ISP is Verizon but I didn't opt for the VoiceWing.

--
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What is that dripping from my fingers?
Why it looks like time.

Kevin Duggan wrote:

> I can not afford the Apple router,
>
>
> I was hoping I could find advice on other
> cheaper brands. Today I found a Belkin that seemed good.
>
> I live in a studio apartment with two Macs one being a
> MacBook Pro the other a G4.
>
> I am getting a router because Verizons VoiceWing
> (Voice over IP) which I just signed up for requires a router.
>
> I thought I would pick up a wireless router for my
> MacBook Pro my G4 connects by cable
>
> thanks
>
Personally I've had rotten luck with Belkin stuff. I'm currently using a
Linksys wrt-54g with three wireless and four wired Macs. Took me less
than a half hour to set up. Been flawless since I set it up months ago.
My ISP is Verizon but I didn't opt for the VoiceWing.

--
Grandpa

What is that dripping from my fingers?
Why it looks like time.

In article <260820062251329863%kevin_duggan@REMOVE.uml.edu> ,
Kevin Duggan <kevin_duggan@REMOVE.uml.edu> wrote:

> I can not afford the Apple router,
>
>
> I was hoping I could find advice on other
> cheaper brands. Today I found a Belkin that seemed good.
>
> I live in a studio apartment with two Macs one being a
> MacBook Pro the other a G4.
>
> I am getting a router because Verizons VoiceWing
> (Voice over IP) which I just signed up for requires a router.
>
> I thought I would pick up a wireless router for my
> MacBook Pro my G4 connects by cable
>

I can't comment on Belkin routers in specific, but in general, because
Apple supports the standard 802.11b/g WiFi protocols, you should have no
problem with standard WiFi routers. Two things to note, however:

1) Many of the routers being sold today promise speed enhancements over
standard 802.11g-- either a so-called pre-N release of next year's
promised 802.11n standard or a proprietary format with a name like
SpeedBoost or something.

All of these should drop back to standard 802.11g-- and so should be
usable, but I wouldn't pay extra for any of them; none of these speed
enhancements are compatible with Apple's wireless-- and in most cases,
they aren't even compatible with wireless cards from other companies or
even other models from their own product line.

If you get a really good deal on one, it may be OK... otherwise, get
something that offers support of the 802.11g standard.

2) If you are setting up WEP Encryption on whatever router you purchase,
you will then need to enter the encryption password on your Mac...
there's a trick.

Typically, in your router set up you enter a plain text 'passphrase'...
something like MyDogsNameIsKoko

The router's software converts that into several encoded passwords that
are strings of letters and numbers. It might be something like
87A164DE27. Actually they are a number in so-called hexadecimal format
(base-16)... these passwords are displayed to you- make note of them! (I
typically do a screen capture and save the image).

Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
$87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase- it
won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.

Good luck!

In article <260820062251329863%kevin_duggan@REMOVE.uml.edu> ,
Kevin Duggan <kevin_duggan@REMOVE.uml.edu> wrote:

> I can not afford the Apple router,
>
>
> I was hoping I could find advice on other
> cheaper brands. Today I found a Belkin that seemed good.
>
> I live in a studio apartment with two Macs one being a
> MacBook Pro the other a G4.
>
> I am getting a router because Verizons VoiceWing
> (Voice over IP) which I just signed up for requires a router.
>
> I thought I would pick up a wireless router for my
> MacBook Pro my G4 connects by cable
>

I can't comment on Belkin routers in specific, but in general, because
Apple supports the standard 802.11b/g WiFi protocols, you should have no
problem with standard WiFi routers. Two things to note, however:

1) Many of the routers being sold today promise speed enhancements over
standard 802.11g-- either a so-called pre-N release of next year's
promised 802.11n standard or a proprietary format with a name like
SpeedBoost or something.

All of these should drop back to standard 802.11g-- and so should be
usable, but I wouldn't pay extra for any of them; none of these speed
enhancements are compatible with Apple's wireless-- and in most cases,
they aren't even compatible with wireless cards from other companies or
even other models from their own product line.

If you get a really good deal on one, it may be OK... otherwise, get
something that offers support of the 802.11g standard.

2) If you are setting up WEP Encryption on whatever router you purchase,
you will then need to enter the encryption password on your Mac...
there's a trick.

Typically, in your router set up you enter a plain text 'passphrase'...
something like MyDogsNameIsKoko

The router's software converts that into several encoded passwords that
are strings of letters and numbers. It might be something like
87A164DE27. Actually they are a number in so-called hexadecimal format
(base-16)... these passwords are displayed to you- make note of them! (I
typically do a screen capture and save the image).

Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
$87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase- it
won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.

Good luck!

In article <alan-4499CD.21410426082006@shawnews>,
Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> wrote:

> 2) If you are setting up WEP Encryption on whatever router you purchase,
> you will then need to enter the encryption password on your Mac...
> there's a trick.

The trick is: DON'T.

WEP is very easily decrypted. Virtually all modern WiFi gear supports
the superior WPA or WPA2, and you should use that if possible.

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Arlington, MA
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In article <alan-4499CD.21410426082006@shawnews>,
Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> wrote:

> 2) If you are setting up WEP Encryption on whatever router you purchase,
> you will then need to enter the encryption password on your Mac...
> there's a trick.

The trick is: DON'T.

WEP is very easily decrypted. Virtually all modern WiFi gear supports
the superior WPA or WPA2, and you should use that if possible.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***

In article <wN8Ig.749$4O4.152@trnddc02>, Grandpa <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

> Personally I've had rotten luck with Belkin stuff. I'm currently
> using a Linksys wrt-54g with three wireless and four wired Macs. Took
> me less than a half hour to set up. Been flawless since I set it up
> months ago. My ISP is Verizon but I didn't opt for the VoiceWing.

I've been using a Belkin wireless router since March of this year. No
problems.

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In article <wN8Ig.749$4O4.152@trnddc02>, Grandpa <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

> Personally I've had rotten luck with Belkin stuff. I'm currently
> using a Linksys wrt-54g with three wireless and four wired Macs. Took
> me less than a half hour to set up. Been flawless since I set it up
> months ago. My ISP is Verizon but I didn't opt for the VoiceWing.

I've been using a Belkin wireless router since March of this year. No
problems.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.

On 2006-08-26 22:40:44 -0600, Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> said:

> Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
> connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
> $87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
> entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase-
> it won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.
>
> Good luck!

w00t! I was wondering what the problem was (trying to connect to a
friends WEP). But yeah, WPA is the way to go.

I have used Netgear, Linksys and Buffalo with my Mac. Read a few
reviews, my Netgear developed a connectivity issue over time and my
Linksys didn't have the routing capabilities I needed. Right now I'm
using a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 that I'm very happy with.

On 2006-08-26 22:40:44 -0600, Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> said:

> Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
> connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
> $87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
> entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase-
> it won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.
>
> Good luck!

w00t! I was wondering what the problem was (trying to connect to a
friends WEP). But yeah, WPA is the way to go.

I have used Netgear, Linksys and Buffalo with my Mac. Read a few
reviews, my Netgear developed a connectivity issue over time and my
Linksys didn't have the routing capabilities I needed. Right now I'm
using a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 that I'm very happy with.

In article <2006082822084250073-onembk@spamsomeoneelsegmailcom>,
onembk <onembk@spamsomeoneelse.gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2006-08-26 22:40:44 -0600, Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> said:
>
> > Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
> > connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
> > $87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
> > entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase-
> > it won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.
> >
> > Good luck!
>
> w00t! I was wondering what the problem was (trying to connect to a
> friends WEP). But yeah, WPA is the way to go.
>
> I have used Netgear, Linksys and Buffalo with my Mac. Read a few
> reviews, my Netgear developed a connectivity issue over time and my
> Linksys didn't have the routing capabilities I needed. Right now I'm
> using a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 that I'm very happy with.

I'm not sure whether the '$' is needed with WPA as well... maybe someone
who's using that can comment.

In article <2006082822084250073-onembk@spamsomeoneelsegmailcom>,
onembk <onembk@spamsomeoneelse.gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2006-08-26 22:40:44 -0600, Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> said:
>
> > Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
> > connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
> > $87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
> > entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase-
> > it won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.
> >
> > Good luck!
>
> w00t! I was wondering what the problem was (trying to connect to a
> friends WEP). But yeah, WPA is the way to go.
>
> I have used Netgear, Linksys and Buffalo with my Mac. Read a few
> reviews, my Netgear developed a connectivity issue over time and my
> Linksys didn't have the routing capabilities I needed. Right now I'm
> using a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 that I'm very happy with.

I'm not sure whether the '$' is needed with WPA as well... maybe someone
who's using that can comment.

In article <2006082822084250073-onembk@spamsomeoneelsegmailcom>,
onembk <onembk@spamsomeoneelse.gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2006-08-26 22:40:44 -0600, Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> said:
>
> > Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
> > connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
> > $87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
> > entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase-
> > it won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.
> >
> > Good luck!
>
> w00t! I was wondering what the problem was (trying to connect to a
> friends WEP). But yeah, WPA is the way to go.
>
> I have used Netgear, Linksys and Buffalo with my Mac. Read a few
> reviews, my Netgear developed a connectivity issue over time and my
> Linksys didn't have the routing capabilities I needed. Right now I'm
> using a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 that I'm very happy with.

I agree with using WEP for security. I use WPA2 and limit DHCP to hand
out 1 IP address only. The rest of the IP range, other than for hard
wired units, is disabled.

I have a 3-Com g unit with a print server at home. I have a friend who
has had a NetGear g unit for over 4 years and has not had an issue with
it. Meanwhile, I work at schools that use NetGear, Apple, and Linksys.
Over the last 3 years, we've replaced at least one of every brand. The
biggest selling feature for us with the Apple units is the ability to
manage all of them quickly and easily. But, given the price difference
and performance factor, I would not buy an Apple Airport for home,
unless I required one of the special capabilities it includes.

GGG

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In article <2006082822084250073-onembk@spamsomeoneelsegmailcom>,
onembk <onembk@spamsomeoneelse.gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2006-08-26 22:40:44 -0600, Alan Zisman <alan@zisman.ca> said:
>
> > Then, on your Mac, you'll be prompted to enter the password in order to
> > connect via wireless. Start your typing with a '$' -- i.e.
> > $87A164DE27... the dollar sign is the way to tell your Mac that you're
> > entering a hexadecimal number. Don't enter the plain-text passphrase-
> > it won't work, and neither will the hex-number without the '$' in front.
> >
> > Good luck!
>
> w00t! I was wondering what the problem was (trying to connect to a
> friends WEP). But yeah, WPA is the way to go.
>
> I have used Netgear, Linksys and Buffalo with my Mac. Read a few
> reviews, my Netgear developed a connectivity issue over time and my
> Linksys didn't have the routing capabilities I needed. Right now I'm
> using a Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 that I'm very happy with.

I agree with using WEP for security. I use WPA2 and limit DHCP to hand
out 1 IP address only. The rest of the IP range, other than for hard
wired units, is disabled.

I have a 3-Com g unit with a print server at home. I have a friend who
has had a NetGear g unit for over 4 years and has not had an issue with
it. Meanwhile, I work at schools that use NetGear, Apple, and Linksys.
Over the last 3 years, we've replaced at least one of every brand. The
biggest selling feature for us with the Apple units is the ability to
manage all of them quickly and easily. But, given the price difference
and performance factor, I would not buy an Apple Airport for home,
unless I required one of the special capabilities it includes.

GGG

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