1. Start iPhoto

2. Start importing pictures from a Samba server

3. Close the lid (MacBook Pro)

4. Wake up, Finder hung unkillable (not even SIGKILL helps). Never
timeouts (waited a day)

The GUI shutdown never finishes, "sudo reboot" never finishes either.
The only way to get functionality back is to powercycle (press and hold
power button).

This actually is quite bad and relatively unexpected: even Linux
survives this exact thing pretty well. Not to mention Windows.

I mean -- did they ever test placing laptops to sleep? This (unmounting
remote filesystems) is like the second problem on the list when you
write a going to sleep script...

And of course you informed Apple so they can fix this bug, right? If
not, then please do. You can use their discussion forum at the website.

Try using Path Finder instead of MOSX Finder. I'd be interested if it
has the same problem, in which case it might be a system specific bug,
not the Finder. My guess: flaky Samba networking is part of the cause.
Much as I love Apple, their networking always needs improvement
somewhere.

MOSX 10.5 will have a rebuilt Finder app. Let's hope they finally make
the thing entirely Cocoa, like Path Finder/SNAX has been since MOSX
10.0.0 was released.

:-Derek


In article <MFKmg.1075$ii.94@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
Anton Solovyev <anton@solovyev.com> wrote:

> 1. Start iPhoto
>
> 2. Start importing pictures from a Samba server
>
> 3. Close the lid (MacBook Pro)
>
> 4. Wake up, Finder hung unkillable (not even SIGKILL helps). Never
> timeouts (waited a day)
>
> The GUI shutdown never finishes, "sudo reboot" never finishes either.
> The only way to get functionality back is to powercycle (press and hold
> power button).
>
> This actually is quite bad and relatively unexpected: even Linux
> survives this exact thing pretty well. Not to mention Windows.
>
> I mean -- did they ever test placing laptops to sleep? This (unmounting
> remote filesystems) is like the second problem on the list when you
> write a going to sleep script...

--
Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
<http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/>
[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]

And of course you informed Apple so they can fix this bug, right? If
not, then please do. You can use their discussion forum at the website.

Try using Path Finder instead of MOSX Finder. I'd be interested if it
has the same problem, in which case it might be a system specific bug,
not the Finder. My guess: flaky Samba networking is part of the cause.
Much as I love Apple, their networking always needs improvement
somewhere.

MOSX 10.5 will have a rebuilt Finder app. Let's hope they finally make
the thing entirely Cocoa, like Path Finder/SNAX has been since MOSX
10.0.0 was released.

:-Derek


In article <MFKmg.1075$ii.94@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
Anton Solovyev <anton@solovyev.com> wrote:

> 1. Start iPhoto
>
> 2. Start importing pictures from a Samba server
>
> 3. Close the lid (MacBook Pro)
>
> 4. Wake up, Finder hung unkillable (not even SIGKILL helps). Never
> timeouts (waited a day)
>
> The GUI shutdown never finishes, "sudo reboot" never finishes either.
> The only way to get functionality back is to powercycle (press and hold
> power button).
>
> This actually is quite bad and relatively unexpected: even Linux
> survives this exact thing pretty well. Not to mention Windows.
>
> I mean -- did they ever test placing laptops to sleep? This (unmounting
> remote filesystems) is like the second problem on the list when you
> write a going to sleep script...

--
Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
<http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/>
[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:42:12 GMT, Derek Currie <derekcurrie@mac.com.invalid> wrote:

>And of course you informed Apple so they can fix this bug, right? If
>not, then please do. You can use their discussion forum at the website.
>
>Try using Path Finder instead of MOSX Finder. I'd be interested if it
>has the same problem, in which case it might be a system specific bug,
>not the Finder. My guess: flaky Samba networking is part of the cause.
>Much as I love Apple, their networking always needs improvement
>somewhere.
>
>MOSX 10.5 will have a rebuilt Finder app. Let's hope they finally make
>the thing entirely Cocoa, like Path Finder/SNAX has been since MOSX
>10.0.0 was released.

A: Because people don't talk that way.

Q: Why is top posting annoying?

>:-Derek
>
>
>In article <MFKmg.1075$ii.94@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
> Anton Solovyev <anton@solovyev.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Start iPhoto
>>
>> 2. Start importing pictures from a Samba server
>>
>> 3. Close the lid (MacBook Pro)
>>
>> 4. Wake up, Finder hung unkillable (not even SIGKILL helps). Never
>> timeouts (waited a day)
>>
>> The GUI shutdown never finishes, "sudo reboot" never finishes either.
>> The only way to get functionality back is to powercycle (press and hold
>> power button).
>>
>> This actually is quite bad and relatively unexpected: even Linux
>> survives this exact thing pretty well. Not to mention Windows.
>>
>> I mean -- did they ever test placing laptops to sleep? This (unmounting
>> remote filesystems) is like the second problem on the list when you
>> write a going to sleep script...
>
>--
>Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
>Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
>of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
><http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/>
>[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
>the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:42:12 GMT, Derek Currie <derekcurrie@mac.com.invalid> wrote:

>And of course you informed Apple so they can fix this bug, right? If
>not, then please do. You can use their discussion forum at the website.
>
>Try using Path Finder instead of MOSX Finder. I'd be interested if it
>has the same problem, in which case it might be a system specific bug,
>not the Finder. My guess: flaky Samba networking is part of the cause.
>Much as I love Apple, their networking always needs improvement
>somewhere.
>
>MOSX 10.5 will have a rebuilt Finder app. Let's hope they finally make
>the thing entirely Cocoa, like Path Finder/SNAX has been since MOSX
>10.0.0 was released.

A: Because people don't talk that way.

Q: Why is top posting annoying?

>:-Derek
>
>
>In article <MFKmg.1075$ii.94@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
> Anton Solovyev <anton@solovyev.com> wrote:
>
>> 1. Start iPhoto
>>
>> 2. Start importing pictures from a Samba server
>>
>> 3. Close the lid (MacBook Pro)
>>
>> 4. Wake up, Finder hung unkillable (not even SIGKILL helps). Never
>> timeouts (waited a day)
>>
>> The GUI shutdown never finishes, "sudo reboot" never finishes either.
>> The only way to get functionality back is to powercycle (press and hold
>> power button).
>>
>> This actually is quite bad and relatively unexpected: even Linux
>> survives this exact thing pretty well. Not to mention Windows.
>>
>> I mean -- did they ever test placing laptops to sleep? This (unmounting
>> remote filesystems) is like the second problem on the list when you
>> write a going to sleep script...
>
>--
>Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
>Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
>of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
><http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/>
>[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
>the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:01:57 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones******.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:42:12 GMT, Derek Currie <derekcurrie@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>And of course you informed Apple so they can fix this bug, right? If
>>not, then please do. You can use their discussion forum at the website.
>>
>>Try using Path Finder instead of MOSX Finder. I'd be interested if it
>>has the same problem, in which case it might be a system specific bug,
>>not the Finder. My guess: flaky Samba networking is part of the cause.
>>Much as I love Apple, their networking always needs improvement
>>somewhere.
>>
>>MOSX 10.5 will have a rebuilt Finder app. Let's hope they finally make
>>the thing entirely Cocoa, like Path Finder/SNAX has been since MOSX
>>10.0.0 was released.
>
>A: Because people don't talk that way.
>
>Q: Why is top posting annoying?
>

Did you have anything of use to add to the thread?

Please, go be a police officer on the street where they can actually
use the extran help and man power..


>>:-Derek
>>
>>
>>In article <MFKmg.1075$ii.94@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
>> Anton Solovyev <anton@solovyev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Start iPhoto
>>>
>>> 2. Start importing pictures from a Samba server
>>>
>>> 3. Close the lid (MacBook Pro)
>>>
>>> 4. Wake up, Finder hung unkillable (not even SIGKILL helps). Never
>>> timeouts (waited a day)
>>>
>>> The GUI shutdown never finishes, "sudo reboot" never finishes either.
>>> The only way to get functionality back is to powercycle (press and hold
>>> power button).
>>>
>>> This actually is quite bad and relatively unexpected: even Linux
>>> survives this exact thing pretty well. Not to mention Windows.
>>>
>>> I mean -- did they ever test placing laptops to sleep? This (unmounting
>>> remote filesystems) is like the second problem on the list when you
>>> write a going to sleep script...
>>
>>--
>>Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
>>Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
>>of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
>><http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/>
>>[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
>>the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]
>
>Barry
>=====
>Home page
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

--
the JarHead

By caffeine alone do I set my mind in motion.
By the beans of java do thoughts acquire speed,
do hands acquire shaking,
the shaking becomes a warning.
By caffeine alone do I set my mind in motion.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:01:57 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones******.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:42:12 GMT, Derek Currie <derekcurrie@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>And of course you informed Apple so they can fix this bug, right? If
>>not, then please do. You can use their discussion forum at the website.
>>
>>Try using Path Finder instead of MOSX Finder. I'd be interested if it
>>has the same problem, in which case it might be a system specific bug,
>>not the Finder. My guess: flaky Samba networking is part of the cause.
>>Much as I love Apple, their networking always needs improvement
>>somewhere.
>>
>>MOSX 10.5 will have a rebuilt Finder app. Let's hope they finally make
>>the thing entirely Cocoa, like Path Finder/SNAX has been since MOSX
>>10.0.0 was released.
>
>A: Because people don't talk that way.
>
>Q: Why is top posting annoying?
>

Did you have anything of use to add to the thread?

Please, go be a police officer on the street where they can actually
use the extran help and man power..


>>:-Derek
>>
>>
>>In article <MFKmg.1075$ii.94@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
>> Anton Solovyev <anton@solovyev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Start iPhoto
>>>
>>> 2. Start importing pictures from a Samba server
>>>
>>> 3. Close the lid (MacBook Pro)
>>>
>>> 4. Wake up, Finder hung unkillable (not even SIGKILL helps). Never
>>> timeouts (waited a day)
>>>
>>> The GUI shutdown never finishes, "sudo reboot" never finishes either.
>>> The only way to get functionality back is to powercycle (press and hold
>>> power button).
>>>
>>> This actually is quite bad and relatively unexpected: even Linux
>>> survives this exact thing pretty well. Not to mention Windows.
>>>
>>> I mean -- did they ever test placing laptops to sleep? This (unmounting
>>> remote filesystems) is like the second problem on the list when you
>>> write a going to sleep script...
>>
>>--
>>Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
>>Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
>>of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
>><http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/>
>>[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
>>the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]
>
>Barry
>=====
>Home page
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

--
the JarHead

By caffeine alone do I set my mind in motion.
By the beans of java do thoughts acquire speed,
do hands acquire shaking,
the shaking becomes a warning.
By caffeine alone do I set my mind in motion.